Stop calling them "Black Bars" - Blu-ray Forum

cscBiology · 03-21-2008, 06:37 PM

The so called "black bars" is not there by accident but placed there by the director to contrast the colors between them. When those bars are removed, like in anamorphic widescreen, objects that were covered up are now observed to the viewing audiance (check out the princess bride). The reason they are not seen on SD TV is because the picture is modified to fill the whole screen and only when viewed in letter box can they be seen on an SDTV. So why on an HDTV are they still there?

Like I said before they are suppsed to be there. Even if you are watching letter box on an SDTC the picture is skewed so that it fits on the screen correctly (boxes are rectangles). On HDTV widescreen TV's boxes are now boxes and you can watch it as the director intended it!

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/764

Do not believe me...Seriously! Look for yourself... Never fully trust anything from anybody without doing the leg work to find it yourself. Take what I say and prove me wrong. This is how you learn!

Zaphod · 03-21-2008, 06:41 PM

Ahhhh...another "black bar" thread. Well at least this one is on the otherside of the topic and not asking what they are or how do I get rid of them.

CptGreedle · 03-21-2008, 06:49 PM

Do you have any idea how often this pops up?
Well I can say for one that they are not called Black Bars.. they are called "Letterbox" or "Pillarbox", depending on if they are on the top and bottom or the sides.
There is a sticky on this dude... use the search tool.

btf1980 · 03-21-2008, 06:54 PM

You have an LCD, wouldn't you call them grey bars? j/k

Knight-Errant · 03-21-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btf1980

You have an LCD, wouldn't you call them grey bars? j/k

LOL no I'd say that's a very good point

I'm continually frustrated by panel TVs black problems.

Zaphod · 03-21-2008, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btf1980

You have an LCD, wouldn't you call them grey bars? j/k

I don't know why, but that was funny...

jpthomas27 · 03-21-2008, 07:02 PM

Nice explination of what has already been explained 100 of times on this board.

Any other topics you want to re-hash?

Chevypower · 03-21-2008, 07:07 PM

I know they are pillarboxes and letterboxes, I know why they are there. I still call them "black bars." and I am not going to stop saying "black bars." I am not talking about drinking venues which excludes white people either. Black bars, black bars, black bars.... ok I will stop now. :-)

Zaphod · 03-21-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpthomas27

Nice explination of what has already been explained 100 of times on this board.

Any other topics you want to re-hash?

When was LOTR coming to Blu? Also does anyone know when Star Wars is coming as well?

111111 · 03-21-2008, 07:09 PM

You guys notice those black bars when you watch certain movies?

Chevypower · 03-21-2008, 07:18 PM

I have a suggestion as to why squares may look like rectangles on widescreen standard definition (though I have never really noticed it). Widescreen standard def just stretches the pixels, and are no longer square. The resolution is 720 pixels horizontal (same as 4:3 standard def). This is not the case in 1080 x 1920 where it is widescreen built up of square pixels.

Blu n Gold · 03-21-2008, 07:20 PM

I know black bars suck, but when are we getting Star Wars?

Knight-Errant · 03-21-2008, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayEdwards

You guys notice those black bars when you watch certain movies?

They seemed quite prominent in 2001 a Space Oddyssey. They were actually part of the picture it seemed to me

Blu n Gold · 03-21-2008, 07:23 PM

Black Bars? They should be called "African-American Bars". That is more politically correct.

btf1980 · 03-21-2008, 07:28 PM

Anyone know when Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill is coming out on blu?

kingofgrills · 03-21-2008, 07:40 PM

Aaaaarrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black bars bring pain!!!

Bigwayne · 03-21-2008, 07:41 PM

Did you know that Toshiba stopped supporting HDDVD, making Blu-ray the winner. Man, when will we get some news on upcoming Paramount & Universal titles????

Beating a dead horse... bringing up/asking something that has been discussed a thousand times before

What difference does it make what people call them in the first place, do you use the technical term for everything? Doubt it.

Memnoch71 · 03-21-2008, 07:49 PM

Black Bars? I've never noticed these. When and where do they show up? I MUST KNOW!

Now I must leave you all to this thrilling topic while I go start a Thread asking when Transformers is finally coming to Blu-Ray......

Canada · 03-21-2008, 07:51 PM

Original Aspect Ratio is the only way to roll. To tell you the truth I hardly notice them any more. I got acustomed to them in the early days of DVD?

Bango · 03-21-2008, 07:53 PM

WHEN IS TRANSFORMERS COMING TO BLU?!?!

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03-21-2008, 06:37 PM	#1
cscBiology Junior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Long Island	Stop calling them "Black Bars" The so called "black bars" is not there by accident but placed there by the director to contrast the colors between them. When those bars are removed, like in anamorphic widescreen, objects that were covered up are now observed to the viewing audiance (check out the princess bride). The reason they are not seen on SD TV is because the picture is modified to fill the whole screen and only when viewed in letter box can they be seen on an SDTV. So why on an HDTV are they still there? Like I said before they are suppsed to be there. Even if you are watching letter box on an SDTC the picture is skewed so that it fits on the screen correctly (boxes are rectangles). On HDTV widescreen TV's boxes are now boxes and you can watch it as the director intended it! http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/764 Do not believe me...Seriously! Look for yourself... Never fully trust anything from anybody without doing the leg work to find it yourself. Take what I say and prove me wrong. This is how you learn!

03-21-2008, 07:41 PM	#17
Bigwayne Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Indian Trail, NC USA 4K collection:339 Blu-ray collection:1150 DVD collection:9 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:13	Did you know that Toshiba stopped supporting HDDVD, making Blu-ray the winner. Man, when will we get some news on upcoming Paramount & Universal titles???? What difference does it make what people call them in the first place, do you use the technical term for everything? Doubt it.

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03-21-2008, 06:41 PM	#2
Zaphod Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2007 Location:A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. Blu-ray collection:350 Trading Score:4	Ahhhh...another "black bar" thread. Well at least this one is on the otherside of the topic and not asking what they are or how do I get rid of them.

03-21-2008, 06:49 PM	#3
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Do you have any idea how often this pops up? Well I can say for one that they are not called Black Bars.. they are called "Letterbox" or "Pillarbox", depending on if they are on the top and bottom or the sides. There is a sticky on this dude... use the search tool.

03-21-2008, 06:54 PM	#4
btf1980 Special Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2007 Location:NYC Home Theater Gallery:97 Trading Score:14	You have an LCD, wouldn't you call them grey bars? j/k

03-21-2008, 07:02 PM	#7
jpthomas27 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:SoCal	Nice explination of what has already been explained 100 of times on this board. Any other topics you want to re-hash?

03-21-2008, 07:07 PM	#8
Chevypower Special Member Member since:Feb 2008	I know they are pillarboxes and letterboxes, I know why they are there. I still call them "black bars." and I am not going to stop saying "black bars." I am not talking about drinking venues which excludes white people either. Black bars, black bars, black bars.... ok I will stop now. :-)

03-21-2008, 07:09 PM	#10
111111 Banned Member since:Mar 2008 Location:St. Louis, MO Home Theater Gallery:24 Blu-ray collection:95 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:10	You guys notice those black bars when you watch certain movies?

03-21-2008, 07:18 PM	#11
Chevypower Special Member Member since:Feb 2008	I have a suggestion as to why squares may look like rectangles on widescreen standard definition (though I have never really noticed it). Widescreen standard def just stretches the pixels, and are no longer square. The resolution is 720 pixels horizontal (same as 4:3 standard def). This is not the case in 1080 x 1920 where it is widescreen built up of square pixels.

03-21-2008, 07:20 PM	#12
Blu n Gold Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Short Stop	I know black bars suck, but when are we getting Star Wars?

03-21-2008, 07:23 PM	#14
Blu n Gold Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Short Stop	Black Bars? They should be called "African-American Bars". That is more politically correct.

03-21-2008, 07:28 PM	#15
btf1980 Special Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2007 Location:NYC Home Theater Gallery:97 Trading Score:14	Anyone know when Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill is coming out on blu?

03-21-2008, 07:40 PM	#16
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	Aaaaarrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Black bars bring pain!!!

03-21-2008, 07:49 PM	#18
Memnoch71 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Somewhere between here and there 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:252	Black Bars? I've never noticed these. When and where do they show up? I MUST KNOW! Now I must leave you all to this thrilling topic while I go start a Thread asking when Transformers is finally coming to Blu-Ray......

03-21-2008, 07:51 PM	#19
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	Original Aspect Ratio is the only way to roll. To tell you the truth I hardly notice them any more. I got acustomed to them in the early days of DVD?

03-21-2008, 07:53 PM	#20
Bango Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:San Diego, CA Trading Score:4	WHEN IS TRANSFORMERS COMING TO BLU?!?!

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