Help with DTS MA - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

supersix4 · 04-16-2008, 08:51 PM

use the search to find the two big threads about this all the help info can be found there

Pelican170 · 04-16-2008, 08:56 PM

Sounds like what he is trying to say (the OP) , is that he is using a sound matrix after the signal is sent to the receiver. The answer would be no, you are not listening to DTS_HDMA because the receiver is tweaking the sound.

The other posters are correct, you dont want to run it as 2 channel. Not sure why you would ever wanna do that really...

DutchBoy · 04-16-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Sounds like what he is trying to say (the OP) , is that he is using a sound matrix after the signal is sent to the receiver. The answer would be no, you are not listening to DTS_HDMA because the receiver is tweaking the sound.

The other posters are correct, you dont want to run it as 2 channel. Not sure why you would ever wanna do that really...

My suspicion is that an optical cable is being used, but I can't be positive. If not, then I'm really not sure why the PS3 would automatically just be sending out 2.0 PCM, unless the OP went in and unchecked all of those for some reason...

Pelican170 · 04-16-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoy

My suspicion is that an optical cable is being used, but I can't be positive. If not, then I'm really not sure why the PS3 would automatically just be sending out 2.0 PCM, unless the OP went in and unchecked all of those for some reason...

Oh, from what i gathered, it sounded like he did purposely only check 2.0 pcm. very confusing question here from the OP

thr0ttles · 04-16-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikesamuel08

Onkyo

HDMI audio output: On

PS3

a:HDMI set to LPCM
b:Audio settings set to Auto and picking up 2 of 2ch. LPCM.
c:Put in a movie with DTS MS pick. Press Select and DTS MA shows up on the screen.

I was still able to change the surrond sound on my Onkyo to were it was mix. SO is that sill DTS MA?

on the Settings-->Sound Settings--->Audio Output Settings, when you select HDMI, make sure PCM 5.1 Ch and 7.1 Ch are selected and that PCM 2.1 Ch is NOT selected.

DutchBoy · 04-16-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Oh, from what i gathered, it sounded like he did purposely only check 2.0 pcm. very confusing question here from the OP

I thought so too, but then he threw this in:

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b:Audio settings set to Auto and picking up 2 of 2ch. LPCM

DutchBoy · 04-16-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thr0ttles

on the Settings-->Sound Settings--->Audio Output Settings, when you select HDMI, make sure PCM 5.1 Ch and 7.1 Ch are selected and that PCM 2.1 Ch is NOT selected.

Not a huge deal, but it really doesn't matter that they are. Mine turns them on automatically. But he DOES need to make sure the others ARE.

thr0ttles · 04-16-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoy

I really would like to hear, "I am using an HDMI cable for my sound..." - it sure would help...

i think he is using an HDMI cable...cause if he wasn't and was using Optical and set the Audio Output Settings under BD Audio Output Format to HDMI, he wouldn't hear anything from the AV and speakers.

Baseball3 · 04-16-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikesamuel08

So if I am not forcing my PS3 on the audio settings to play it at 5.1 or 7.1 LPCM; having it set by default and still being able to play DTS MA tracks and viewing it on the screen. And having my Onkyo 605 mixing the surround sound; is that still DTS MA sound?

No.

thr0ttles · 04-16-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoy

Not a huge deal, but it really doesn't matter that they are. Mine turns them on automatically. But he DOES need to make sure the others ARE.

True, was just trying to eliminate the possiblity that the AV was "asking" for 2 Ch even though the PS3 was "offering" to send 5.1/7.1 Ch

DutchBoy · 04-16-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thr0ttles

i think he is using an HDMI cable...cause if he wasn't and was using Optical and set the Audio Output Settings under BD Audio Output Format to HDMI, he wouldn't hear anything from the AV and speakers.

This is true... it's been confusing on a number of levels, so I've kind of just been throwing things and hoping they stick. I wouldn't completely throw out the possibility that he actually has audio going out via optical, and NOT HDMI at this point...

I haven't thrown out incorrect information, though.

Several things just don't make sense...

thr0ttles · 04-16-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoy

This is true... it's been confusing on a number of levels, so I've kind of just been throwing things and hoping they stick.

I haven't thrown out incorrect information, though.

Several things just don't make sense...

I hear ya. Yea, this should work from what it sounds like. On a side note, this reminds me, time for me to upgrade to a 605 or something since i'm running audio through optical and can only get 2 Ch PCM for Linear PCM

so i'm still stuck with 5.1 DTS

DutchBoy · 04-16-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thr0ttles

I hear ya. Yea, this should work from what it sounds like. On a side note, this reminds me, time for me to upgrade to a 605 or something since i'm running audio through optical and can only get 2 Ch PCM for Linear PCM

so i'm still stuck with 5.1 DTS

You should. It's awesome!

GCW2216 · 04-16-2008, 09:15 PM

If the PS3 is auto detecting 2 Ch PCM, then thats all he is going to get. He is either using Optical or has a bad PS3 or HDMI cable.

DutchBoy · 04-16-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GCW2216

If the PS3 is auto detecting 2 Ch PCM, then thats all he is going to get. He is either using Optical or has a bad PS3 or HDMI cable.

The auto-detecting thing is the only reason I questioned at whether or not he was actually using HDMI...

blu-backer · 04-16-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikesamuel08

Onkyo

HDMI audio output: On

PS3

a:HDMI set to LPCM
b:Audio settings set to Auto and picking up 2 of 2ch. LPCM.
c:Put in a movie with DTS MS pick. Press Select and DTS MA shows up on the screen.

I was still able to change the surrond sound on my Onkyo to were it was mix. SO is that sill DTS MA?

I have a 605 as well but I'm not sure I understand the relevance of the "HDMI audio output: On" setting. It sounds like you need to change your "Listening Mode" to something like Direct, so that it takes in the processed signam from the PS3 and plays it as is. Since the PS3 is decoding the DTS-HDMA track (as it is shown when you display the info on the TV screen), it is then sending the decoded information to the 605 in LPCM.

The 605 will NOT display on the receiver that it is playing/decoding a DTS-HDMA track, but if you have your 605 set to Direct, you should hear all the DTS-HDMA goodness.

Unless I totally misunderstood something.

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04-16-2008, 08:51 PM	#21
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	use the search to find the two big threads about this all the help info can be found there

04-16-2008, 08:56 PM	#22
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:129 Blu-ray collection:737 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	Sounds like what he is trying to say (the OP) , is that he is using a sound matrix after the signal is sent to the receiver. The answer would be no, you are not listening to DTS_HDMA because the receiver is tweaking the sound. The other posters are correct, you dont want to run it as 2 channel. Not sure why you would ever wanna do that really...

04-16-2008, 09:15 PM	#34
GCW2216 Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	If the PS3 is auto detecting 2 Ch PCM, then thats all he is going to get. He is either using Optical or has a bad PS3 or HDMI cable.

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