Lack of special features on BDs? - Blu-ray Forum

blujedi · 05-02-2008, 02:40 AM

hi guys!

I'm new here and I just want to know if anyone can tell me why a lot of these blu-releases seem to be microwaving out onto the market w/o any special features. I could care less about commentatries, trivia tracks, or trailers.....I'd prefer a documentary on the subject matter or at least a 15 min "making of" introspective. I mean, give me a reason for ditching all of my DVD's for BLU already......

ClaytonMG · 05-02-2008, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by blujedi

hi guys!

I'm new here and I just want to know if anyone can tell me why a lot of these blu-releases seem to be microwaving out onto the market w/o any special features. I could care less about commentatries, trivia tracks, or trailers.....I'd prefer a documentary on the subject matter or at least a 15 min "making of" introspective. I mean, give me a reason for ditching all of my DVD's for BLU already......

Could or couldn't care less? Trailers are something I love. But if you want to know what features are on what, DVDEmpire.com posts the back cover of movies. I think it'd be to hard to actually have a list of Blu-Rays and what features they have and list them by type of features.

And you want a reason to ditch DVD? I can give you 2, picture and sound. That's enough for me right there...

Chaka · 05-02-2008, 03:06 AM

if the BD is not marketed as Special or Ultimate, don't expect the studios to give you more than great PQ and AQ.

X-Man777 · 05-02-2008, 03:07 AM

If these Blu-ray's have so much more space that a normal DVD then they should include all the special features featured on DVD's.

WickyWoo · 05-02-2008, 03:09 AM

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If these Blu-ray's have so much more space that a normal DVD then they should include all the special features featured on DVD's.

But they won't because you need a reason to buy it again whenever they reissue it

blujedi · 05-02-2008, 03:13 AM

you said it x-man-all i hear is how Blu has 5 times the storage capacity of normal discs-and you mean to tell me that you can't fit a 5 or 10 min documentary or something on there for 30 bucks????? i don't buy it! the whole reason i ever switched from VHS to DVD was because you got extras-more bang for your buck, and now you want me to accept, that pic and sound alone should be sufficient and those of us who also enjoy the extras should just go **** ourselves?

GORT · 05-02-2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blujedi

you said it x-man-all i hear is how Blu has 5 times the storage capacity of normal discs-and you mean to tell me that you can't fit a 5 or 10 min documentary or something on there for 30 bucks????? i don't buy it! the whole reason i ever switched from VHS to DVD was because you got extras-more bang for your buck, and now you want me to accept, that pic and sound alone should be sufficient and those of us who also enjoy the extras should just go **** ourselves?

Nice do you really need to to use the F word Mr Troll

ClaytonMG · 05-02-2008, 03:19 AM

Do you need your special features in HD? I do agree that Fox is insane in asking as much as they do for their catalog titles when they don't include the any of the features that the DVD had (or just any features in general). But look at DVD when it first came out. Remember when scene selection was listed as a special feature?

lgans316 · 05-02-2008, 03:20 AM

Many people say that they don't care about the special features and want the entire disc to be given a superbit treatment. Unless it's a lengthy movie I totally disagree with this opinion. 90% of the FOX BD50 titles have at least 10-15 GB space left that could have been used for extras.

Blu-ray Fanatic · 05-02-2008, 03:22 AM

Special features are acceptable sometimes because I like to watch the outtakes, previews of movies I haven't seen yet, and cast interviews.

foots · 05-02-2008, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by X-Man777

If these Blu-ray's have so much more space that a normal DVD then they should include all the special features featured on DVD's.

The disc size is larger but so is the resolution. As a result all of the file sizes are larger. So is there really that much extra space?

blujedi · 05-02-2008, 03:24 AM

stop crying! i was making a point and you need to consider the context of the sentence i was putting it in. And do YOU need to resort to name calling (Mr. Troll)????

if you can't offer any usable advice for my query, i suggest you jump on another forum and call someone else idiotic names...

blujedi · 05-02-2008, 03:26 AM

no, Clayton, i don't care if they're in HD, I just see no real reason to drop my DVD's for a stripped down release that is like Wicky said, is probably just another excuse for studios to double dip. I happen to be a very serious collector, and if i'm going to invest my money to switch formats on my entire collection, I want the best version for my money.

GORT · 05-02-2008, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by blujedi

stop crying! i was making a point and you need to consider the context of the sentence i was putting it in. And do YOU need to resort to name calling (Mr. Troll)????

if you can't offer any usable advice for my query, i suggest you jump on another forum and call someone else idiotic names...

I was making a Point that the F word is not needed to make a point and special features and just wasted space

foots · 05-02-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by blujedi

no, Clayton, i don't care if they're in HD, I just see no real reason to drop my DVD's for a stripped down release that is like Wicky said, is probably just another excuse for studios to double dip. I happen to be a very serious collector, and if i'm going to invest my money to switch formats on my entire collection, I want the best version for my money.

The feature film in 1080p and lossless audio beat standard DVD with tons of special features any day.

blujedi · 05-02-2008, 03:33 AM

yes, i can make my point w/o the f-word-same as you can make yours w/o the soccer mom observations......

I have collected hundreds of DVDs and i simply want someone to give me some knowledge on why i should re-purchase every title i own. I think that the studios are taking advantage of collectors and fans who are impatient to see their favorite films in Hi-Def and are simply popping these bare bones releases out there to satisfy them until 6 mos later when they hit them with an SE version-

what is your opinion?

Geonosis · 05-02-2008, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Remember when scene selection was listed as a special feature?

When I look back at some of my earlier releases, I chuckle over the special features listing which often was just a trailer lol. I agree that studios are just going bare bones with releases, or porting over SD supplements from the respective DVD release. Thus my policy is simple and economical; I simply await a more definitive quality release to avoid having to repeat the errors of my former DVD days.

blujedi · 05-02-2008, 03:39 AM

i'm going to say this again.....i'm happy that there are those of you out there who don't give two squirts about special features.....

YES! i agree that the sound and pic quality is superior, BUT BUT BUT BUT......
you're telling me that the rabid fans out there are simply going to continue to shell out 30 bucks or more for pic and sound and totally ignore all the other features they enjoyed on the original release???? I mean, you guys really believe this crap?????

unrealistic

GORT · 05-02-2008, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blujedi

yes, i can make my point w/o the f-word-same as you can make yours w/o the soccer mom observations......

I have collected hundreds of DVDs and i simply want someone to give me some knowledge on why i should re-purchase every title i own. I think that the studios are taking advantage of collectors and fans who are impatient to see their favorite films in Hi-Def and are simply popping these bare bones releases out there to satisfy them until 6 mos later when they hit them with an SE version-

what is your opinion?

Just trying to save you from getting suspended or banned but you go right ahead dont let me stop you

blujedi · 05-02-2008, 03:42 AM

Geonosis-you are a genius!!! my point exactly.....I think it's time that we as fans and consumers stop buying these crappy versions of our favorite films and force studios to relase definitive editions of their product. Double dipping is ridiculous! for those of you who don't care about the features.....Don't Watch Them!!!!!! otherwise, those of us who do can enjoy them and everyone is happy.....

What is wrong with that????

05-02-2008, 02:40 AM	#1
blujedi Member Member since:May 2008	Lack of special features on BDs? hi guys! I'm new here and I just want to know if anyone can tell me why a lot of these blu-releases seem to be microwaving out onto the market w/o any special features. I could care less about commentatries, trivia tracks, or trailers.....I'd prefer a documentary on the subject matter or at least a 15 min "making of" introspective. I mean, give me a reason for ditching all of my DVD's for BLU already......

05-02-2008, 03:07 AM	#4
X-Man777 Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:181 Blu-ray reviews:4	Yeah! If these Blu-ray's have so much more space that a normal DVD then they should include all the special features featured on DVD's.

05-02-2008, 03:13 AM	#6
blujedi Member Member since:May 2008	yeah! is right! you said it x-man-all i hear is how Blu has 5 times the storage capacity of normal discs-and you mean to tell me that you can't fit a 5 or 10 min documentary or something on there for 30 bucks????? i don't buy it! the whole reason i ever switched from VHS to DVD was because you got extras-more bang for your buck, and now you want me to accept, that pic and sound alone should be sufficient and those of us who also enjoy the extras should just go **** ourselves?

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05-02-2008, 03:06 AM	#3
Chaka Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Huntington Beach, CA Blu-ray collection:254 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:11	if the BD is not marketed as Special or Ultimate, don't expect the studios to give you more than great PQ and AQ.

05-02-2008, 03:19 AM	#8
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Do you need your special features in HD? I do agree that Fox is insane in asking as much as they do for their catalog titles when they don't include the any of the features that the DVD had (or just any features in general). But look at DVD when it first came out. Remember when scene selection was listed as a special feature?

05-02-2008, 03:20 AM	#9
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	Many people say that they don't care about the special features and want the entire disc to be given a superbit treatment. Unless it's a lengthy movie I totally disagree with this opinion. 90% of the FOX BD50 titles have at least 10-15 GB space left that could have been used for extras.

05-02-2008, 03:22 AM	#10
Blu-ray Fanatic Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:San Antonio Blu-ray reviews:1	Special features are acceptable sometimes because I like to watch the outtakes, previews of movies I haven't seen yet, and cast interviews.

05-02-2008, 03:24 AM	#12
blujedi Member Member since:May 2008	stop crying! i was making a point and you need to consider the context of the sentence i was putting it in. And do YOU need to resort to name calling (Mr. Troll)???? if you can't offer any usable advice for my query, i suggest you jump on another forum and call someone else idiotic names...

05-02-2008, 03:26 AM	#13
blujedi Member Member since:May 2008	no, Clayton, i don't care if they're in HD, I just see no real reason to drop my DVD's for a stripped down release that is like Wicky said, is probably just another excuse for studios to double dip. I happen to be a very serious collector, and if i'm going to invest my money to switch formats on my entire collection, I want the best version for my money.

05-02-2008, 03:33 AM	#16
blujedi Member Member since:May 2008	yes, i can make my point w/o the f-word-same as you can make yours w/o the soccer mom observations...... I have collected hundreds of DVDs and i simply want someone to give me some knowledge on why i should re-purchase every title i own. I think that the studios are taking advantage of collectors and fans who are impatient to see their favorite films in Hi-Def and are simply popping these bare bones releases out there to satisfy them until 6 mos later when they hit them with an SE version- what is your opinion?

05-02-2008, 03:39 AM	#18
blujedi Member Member since:May 2008	i'm going to say this again.....i'm happy that there are those of you out there who don't give two squirts about special features..... YES! i agree that the sound and pic quality is superior, BUT BUT BUT BUT...... you're telling me that the rabid fans out there are simply going to continue to shell out 30 bucks or more for pic and sound and totally ignore all the other features they enjoyed on the original release???? I mean, you guys really believe this crap????? unrealistic

05-02-2008, 03:42 AM	#20
blujedi Member Member since:May 2008	Geonosis-you are a genius!!! my point exactly.....I think it's time that we as fans and consumers stop buying these crappy versions of our favorite films and force studios to relase definitive editions of their product. Double dipping is ridiculous! for those of you who don't care about the features.....Don't Watch Them!!!!!! otherwise, those of us who do can enjoy them and everyone is happy..... What is wrong with that????

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