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http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2307670,00.asp
No Funeral for Blu-ray In what could be almost called a "media hysteria" following the NPD Feb/March numbers (for BR standalones), I am glad some people keep their head level and think ![]() Quote:
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Nice article. There are so many factors to consider when examing why sales of standalone players declined. 1. A lot of consumers are prefering the PS3 over the current standalone players. 2. The free movie promotion ended in late january. 3. The HD TV and Blu-ray promotions ended. 4. The CE retail sector is usually slow in the first quater of the year. 5. Most stores were out of stock for the Sanmsung 1400 BD-P and the Sony 300S. 6. Consumers are waiting for the new Sony and Samsung models to arrive. All valid reasons, but what do I know
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Sep 2007
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The same pundits will reverse their positions when Iron Man on BD ships and the ratio of disk sales with DVD is respectable.
At current trends, Iron Man BD will likely be 15% - 20% of DVD sales if we take sales ratios of similar genres, meaning that week will see a nice pop in that BD : DVD ratio number. |
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Feb 2006
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Great post and I whole-heartedly agree. I read Ulanoff's article, and he simply sounded like a bitter HD DVD enthusiast.
Great article, great level-headed outlook...the beginning of the year is indeed typically slow in terms of sales for things like Blu-ray, so if the slow trend in Blu-ray player sales are still here toward the end of the summer and during the holidays, then the negative pundits certainly have a definitive concern. Until then, however, it simply sounds like sour grapes. |
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Lance Ulanoff's anti Blu-ray FUD piece is one of the headlining articles at PC Magazine's website. I responded to the article in the PC Magazine forum, making some of the same points the ExtremeTech article listed. There's also another factor: the current crop of new releases on Blu-ray aren't all that great and this is traditionally a slow time of year for home video. Things will be different this fall when movies like Iron Man and The Dark Knight arrive on Blu-ray.
If the economy can turn around by fall I think a LOT of HDTV monitors and Blu-ray players (and quite a few PS3 consoles) are going to be sold. |
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Blu-ray Knight
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All in all a very well-thought out, well written analysis of the situation, and I very much agree with the majority of it.
The only part I think this guy is somewhat inaccurate on is the pricing of DVD movies. Many movies have been at ~$15 prices (at least as a rough sale price during the first week of release... then going down to those prices permanently months down the line) for several years now, predating the release of Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. He makes it sound like this happened around the time of these new formats coming out and directly as a result of them coming out, and that really isn't so. But other than that, I very much agree with everything said there. Particularly speaking, this supposed 40% drop in Blu-Ray player prices happened from January to February, right after the holiday shopping season. So, it's pretty logical that the end of that shopping season is largely the reason why sales suddenly go on a decline. Even if sales were up in early January, it could have been the result of people either using gift cards that they got for Christmas towards the purchase of a Blu-Ray player, or it could have been the result of people receiving HDTVs for Christmas and then deciding to go out and buy a Blu-Ray player to go with it shortly there after. It isn't exactly a mind boggling mystery. Last edited by Dynamo of Eternia; 05-22-2008 at 07:42 PM. |
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In truth, many of those pundits out there have been greatly exaggerating the low price levels of new movie releases on DVD. Many try to claim "$15" as the standard price for new movie releases on DVD. That is flat out WRONG.
Some new movie releases do appear at or below that $15 price point. However the vast majority of all new movie releases on DVD originally appear on store shelves at a price point between $18.99 and $21.99. Those are the typical prices for new releases at stores like Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. It's also worth mentioning the MSRP for those new release DVDs is typically $24.99 to $29.99. Some stores (such as fye, Sam Goody, Suncoast, etc.) actually charge those prices for new movies on DVD. Catalog releases in new double dip DVD versions, re-mastered versions, etc. are typically the sort of thing that appear in stores at or below the $15 price level. It just is not common at all for a movie that was in commercial theaters three or four months ago. The time is overdue for these reporters to get their facts straight in terms of DVD pricing and the comparisons they are drawing with Blu-ray pricing. |
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I could be wrong, but I remember 14.99$-17.99$ being the standard walmart price for a new release, but in the recent years it's been creeping up, now it seems to be 19.99$-21.99$ for a new releases. |
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The pricing I think has more to do w/ how well a film does theatrically than any other factor. It seems to me that "blockbusters" tend to be in that $14.99-17.99 price range, while lesser known (and grossing) fare rarely drop under $19.99. The other rather disingenuious price comparisons come when they compare those $15 DVDs to their $30 blu variation. Often times those $15 DVDs are bare-bones, while the blus they are compared to are fully stacked w/ special features that are comparabe to (and sometimes exceed) the SE DVDs, which are almost never on sale, and usually run between $19.99-$24.99. Personally, I usually buy SEs over bare-bones anyway, and I don't see paying $5-10 more for better PQ & AQ as asking alot.
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The $15 price level has never been common for new release DVDs, even for many big hit movies when they initially appeared on DVD.
Perhaps the reason why so many reporters think $15 is the standard for new DVD pricing is merely because they only remember paying under $15 when they picked up a copy of The Matrix or LOTR: The Return of the King. |
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