Guitar Hero: Metallica

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by evo_dadi

sheeeesh just for an info on a game release everybody is on each others neck already


relax people!!

Seriously, jealousy is a *****!

[EvanX]

Do not want.

[hardcore_canadian]

I think this is smart... I only Like 2 Metallica songs, but it's a good move on Metallica's and the GH Franchise. Start buying out the big bands.

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by hardcore_canadian

I think this is smart... I only Like 2 Metallica songs, but it's a good move on Metallica's and the GH Franchise. Start buying out the big bands.

I think its a good move as well.

[Bluoholic]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

I will say it again, Dragonforce is not my taste and in my meaningless opinion, they are overrated. I am sure you love them and I hope you do. I love Coheed and Cambria, and many people think that they are overrated and I am okay with that.

I don't love them but I happen to like them. You said they're overrated like it's a fact. Not your taste would be enough.

[Mxr5150]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

No, those are all DLR albums which are pretty darn good. Sammy stuck and the band has yet to recover. 1984 and Jump more specifically, was the start of the Sammy era suckfest.

1984 had Panama, Top Jimmy, Drop Dead Legs, Hot For Teacher, Girl Gone Bad, and House of Pain. Even I'll Wait was cool.

...Yeah. You know 1984 IS a Roth album right? Just checking. I saw Halen with Roth last fall. They've more than recovered.

[EvanX]

This is not going to effect Rock Band's Metallica plans -

When Activision stealth announced the release of Guitar Hero: Metallica via an SEC filing, fears of artist exclusivity gripped Rock Band fans. After all, Activision CEO Bobby Kotick had referred to Aerosmith as "proprietary" to the Guitar Hero format earlier this year.

We contacted Activision to find out if Metallica getting the titular treatment in a new Guitar Hero game meant that they'd be locked in to that particular brand. "We do no have further comment beyond what was in the SEC filing" read a corporate statement. No help there.

Harmonix reps, on the other hand, helped to calm our fears, if just a bit.

While not giving outright confirmation that Metallica was free to roam on both Guitar Hero and Rock Band indefinitely, we were told that the announcement "doesn't change our plans" in relation to the developer's announcement from Summer of last year. In July of 2007, Harmonix announced a deal with MTV and Metallica that would "showcase the incredible depth of the band's music", with MTV Senior VP Paul DeGooyer saying the agreement would provide "not just one song by a player's favorite artist, but a carefully-chosen career-spanning array."

That statement also touted that "the range of Metallica songs that will be available to Rock Band players will allow them to play along as the history of the genre unfolds." Quantitative? Hardly.

Harmonix reps weren't willing to comment beyond supporting the already announced deal, so things may change at some point in the future. But for the time being, it appears that the four Metallica tracks currently available to Rock Band users probably won't be the last.

If they are, I think we know who to blame. Lars.

http://kotaku.com/5012823/guitar-her...ck-bands-plans

[Cplhicks]

Glad to hear it. I'd hate to see RB lose out to the ever more stale GH.

[NMErickson]

Rock Band owns Guitar Hero. While I think GH: Metallica would be fun for a while, still giving RB some DLC would be the better option for gamers, fans, companies, the band, etc etc because RB is the ever-growing platform and has the staying power. Unless GH4 comes along and copies RB's strategy (which it seems they are), they aren't close.

[WickyWoo]

Unless GH4 comes along and copies RB's strategy (which it seems they are), they aren't close.

They'll still be missing the programming skill, innovation and musicality of Harmonix's

[silversnake]

i've been hearing about guitar hero for quite some time but i didn't really like the taste of music coming. lately, i've been more intrigued with getting it when i heard about muse pack etc. I grew up on metallica and loved everything pre-load ( i love the symphony however) and i might pick this up.

I've heard great things about rock band , but when you call yourself rock band and you don't' have led zeppelin, makes me pretty angry. I"m just going to wait for rock band 2 and guitar hero 10 or whatever and make my decisions than.

[WickyWoo]

WHEW

According to Harmonix, Metallica is not exclusive

http://kotaku.com/5012823/guitar-her...ck-bands-plans

[darkpoet25]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

I do play guitar, I am primarily a bass player. Eddie Van Halen was the best 80's Mainstream (not quite hairmetal) guitar player out there. Eruption was an amazing song not because of how fast it was, but by how close to classical it was. EVH wasn't even the best guitar player in the 80's though...SRV wins that easy. Eddie Van Halen is a guitar god. But it might be a little hard to rock the Guitar Hero controller to Jump (that sound in the begining of that tune is VH jumping the shark).

Dragonforce is overrated, not my taste.

Have you ever listened to Morbid Angel before? Trey Azagthoth is a crazy assed guitarist who writes in nothing but 32nd notes. It's amazing to hear him play, and Pete Sandoval is an insanely fast drummer.

[EvanX]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

WHEW

According to Harmonix, Metallica is not exclusive

http://kotaku.com/5012823/guitar-her...ck-bands-plans

I guess you didn't notice 5 posts up?

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by Mxr5150

1984 had Panama, Top Jimmy, Drop Dead Legs, Hot For Teacher, Girl Gone Bad, and House of Pain. Even I'll Wait was cool.

...Yeah. You know 1984 IS a Roth album right? Just checking. I saw Halen with Roth last fall. They've more than recovered.

I know it is a Roth record, Panama is a GREAT song! Jump however ruins it. It is just my meaningless opinion that Jump is terrible. Jump could be put on Revolver or Led Zeppelin IV and those albums would be instantly useless.

Originally Posted by darkpoet25

Have you ever listened to Morbid Angel before? Trey Azagthoth is a crazy assed guitarist who writes in nothing but 32nd notes. It's amazing to hear him play, and Pete Sandoval is an insanely fast drummer.

I will look into them. I am not that impressed with speed. As good and great as 32nd notes are, Sad but True is one of the heaviest songs Metallica ever did and it so slow. The Thing that Should Not Be is another example of slow and heavy.

Miles Davis and John Coltrane (not metal I know) are two of the greatest pure musicians of the 20th century, and their stuff wan't fast. Give me composition and arrangement over speed any day.

[Mxr5150]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

I know it is a Roth record, Panama is a GREAT song! Jump however ruins it. It is just my meaningless opinion that Jump is terrible. Jump could be put on Revolver or Led Zeppelin IV and those albums would be instantly useless.



I will look into them. I am not that impressed with speed. As good and great as 32nd notes are, Sad but True is one of the heaviest songs Metallica ever did and it so slow. The Thing that Should Not Be is another example of slow and heavy.

Miles Davis and John Coltrane (not metal I know) are two of the greatest pure musicians of the 20th century, and their stuff wan't fast. Give me composition and arrangement over speed any day.

I agree, more can be said with a handful of notes that 1,000,000 in most cases for me too. But, I would never call Eddie a "fast player" because he has done SOOOOOOOOO much for the guitar community than 'Euruption'. I also wouldn't call him an 80s player, he debuted in the 1970s. And a useless tune on a revolutionary record doesn't have to ruin it. Look at "Electric Lady Land", one of my favorite albums of all time. Little Miss Strange is such a waste compared to the rest of that record.

Speaking of, I want more hendrix tracks on these games too!

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by Mxr5150

I agree, more can be said with a handful of notes that 1,000,000 in most cases for me too. But, I would never call Eddie a "fast player" because he has done SOOOOOOOOO much for the guitar community than 'Euruption'. I also wouldn't call him an 80s player, he debuted in the 1970s. And a useless tune on a revolutionary record doesn't have to ruin it. Look at "Electric Lady Land", one of my favorite albums of all time. Little Miss Strange is such a waste compared to the rest of that record.

Speaking of, I want more hendrix tracks on these games too!

Only reason I call EVH an 80's player is because that was the height of their success. I guess I just hate Jump more than any other song. It is just my opinion. Van Halen 1 is one of my favorite albums. EVH did do a lot of stuff other than playing fast, but he is still remembered by the masses as playing fast.

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by n8ryder

Rock Band owns Guitar Hero. While I think GH: Metallica would be fun for a while, still giving RB some DLC would be the better option for gamers, fans, companies, the band, etc etc because RB is the ever-growing platform and has the staying power. Unless GH4 comes along and copies RB's strategy (which it seems they are), they aren't close.

Guitar hero is sooo much better than RB. the only benefit is the drums and more dlc, but it needs dlc cuz the songs it comes with mostly suck! Guitar Hero is far superior for playing the guitar...but then again, they said they have "toned it down" for future games, so maybe ill be joining RB fanboys in the future, who knows.. people, its just a game. if you want serious stuff, go start a REAL band. Also, GH4 is going to be great, does it copy RB, sure a little but really who cares and they are also adding on their own ideas such as cymbols on drums, pressure sensitive drums... So, if RB ends up with pressure sensitive drums or anything else along the lines, does that mean GH fans can say RB copied their idea?

[Musashi]

Glad to hear this new home mix won't be locking out more Metallica on Rock Band. Much like with the bickering over guitar compatibility, the Aerosmith lock was very anti-consumer.

With that in mind, yea, glad to hear we got more editions of music games coming out.

[Thegide]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

I do play guitar, I am primarily a bass player. Eddie Van Halen was the best 80's Mainstream (not quite hairmetal) guitar player out there. Eruption was an amazing song not because of how fast it was, but by how close to classical it was. EVH wasn't even the best guitar player in the 80's though...SRV wins that easy. Eddie Van Halen is a guitar god. But it might be a little hard to rock the Guitar Hero controller to Jump (that sound in the begining of that tune is VH jumping the shark).

Dragonforce is overrated, not my taste.

Uh oh, here it comes. See now you've just mistaken your opinion for fact and now you'll have to endure the wrath of all the other opinionated musicians on this board, including myself.

On what criteria do you consider EVH to be the best [mainstream] player of the 80s? And moreover, why do you feel the need to restrict this ranking to mainstream music? In my opinion, EVH had nothing on players such as Paul Gilbert or Steve Vai, and many others, except for maybe a nasty drug habit. As far as technical ability goes, there were faster players, and more creative players... both harmonically and melodically speaking. Eddie's biggest "thing" was popularizing - not inventing - two handed tapping.

On the criteria that Eruption was popular because of it's classical elements - do you even know what you're talking about? It was popular because it was a couple minutes of guitar ******y, nothing more. I would suggest you listen to Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force if you need examples of classical playing in 80's rock/metal, because they certainly aren't part of Eruption. Perhaps blues or pentatonic licks is more what you were thinking?

Next, you've contradicted yourself claiming in the same post that Eddie was the best player, then changing your opinion to SRV being the best player. Again, I disagree. SRV was perhaps an exceedingly talented blues player, with more technical ability than other blues players of his time - but certainly not the best guitar player period.

I do agree with you, however, regarding the Dragonforce comment. Unfortunately, merely describing them as overrated, is about as underrated of a comment as I can think of. Herman and Sam are sloppy players who hide behind Digitech Whammy pedals among a panel of other mistake-covering effects to give the illusion that they can play faster than anyone has ever played. On top of that, their songwriting ability is mediocre at best - largely ripoffs of 80's power metal riffs with some monotonous scale-running for solos. On top of that their maturity level seems about on par with your average 8-year-old, so no, I don't quite care for them either.