Star Trek:Season 6 - Does it warrant a Replacement Program?

[Gold Ranger]

So, it seems that there are quite a few mess-ups with the Video Presentation.

Do we need a Replacement Program for this season?

Here are all of the currently known issues:

#1 - Relics - it appears that there is a starfield behind the star as seen on the viewscreen while the Enterprise is INSIDE the Dyson sphere. This goes way beyond just a minor technical error and compromises THE major concept of the episode and the setting for those particular scenes.
- From a posting on TrekCore

#2 - TimeScape - the missing hull breach / scorch marks that should be on the underside of the saucer section.

#3 - TimeScape - The energy beam still originates from the neck of the Enterprise for some unknown reason. The characters even mention the beam is coming from the deflector array.

#4 - Chain of Command (2) - There is BlueScreen Bleed
- As mentioned by someone here

#5 - There's a slight audio error on the Chain of Command Blu Ray. When Jellico exits the bridge after his initial negotiation at around the 31:00 minute mark, the swoosh door sound comes out of the left speaker when it should be the right speaker as the doors are located off camera to the right. Compounded by the fact Troi and Riker are staring off to the right of the screen. Minor error to an overall terrific presentation.
- As reported by Connor

#6 - Rightful Heir - When everyone walks into the holodeck. They used 10 forwards door sound. Not the holodeck/cargo door sound. In both 7.1 and stereo.
- Found by Archer9234 from TrekCore

[blonde_devil]

minor issues, some from the original source - not worth it.

[dcowboy7]

Sure why not....no skin off my tomatoe.

[Gold Ranger]

Added another one.
There are now 5 so far.

[Maxwell Everett]

#2 is "Timescape" and #4 is "Chain of Command, Part II." But don't expect these issues to merit a recall. At most CBS might update their HD masters for broadcast, streaming and digital download. Every season has lingering mistakes here and there, both visual and auditory.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

Added another one.
There are now 5 so far.

Heh, no offense but that fifth one tipped me from 'don't vote' to 'no'

[HDMe]

In the scheme of things, I'd say no.

Season 1 had some major gaffes so they fixed some minor ones as well... but a handful of minor things wouldn't drive me nuts. These are so much better than what we had before, and they have fixed other things in these versions, so if a few minor things are there I'm ok if they don't.

IF they do, I'd apply for the replacements... but I wouldn't line up with fire and pitchforks demanding it.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by octagon

Heh, no offense but that fifth one tipped me from 'don't vote' to 'no'

Misplaced or misdirected stereo effects bother me more than visual effects, which I can always forgive due to the age of a movie or TV show. On the other hand, incorrect stereo effects make me think I have some sort of audio dyslexia.

[Dreamliner330]

Ahh! Not again!

The only replacement program so far was season 1, right.

Any other seasons have issues?

[OneWayFilms]

If the mistake was also on the original broadcast, like the beam NOT coming from the deflector array, then why would they be obligated to fix it now?

Not sure about the other issues that were NOT in the original broadcast, but the goofs sound too mild to warrant an entire replacement program.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

Ahh! Not again!

The only replacement program so far was season 1, right.

Any other seasons have issues?

The entirety of Season 2!

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by OneWayFilms

If the mistake was also on the original broadcast, like the beam NOT coming from the deflector array, then why would they be obligated to fix it now?

Not sure about the other issues that were NOT in the original broadcast, but the goofs sound too mild to warrant an entire replacement program.

Then why did they fix the other errors?

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

The entirety of Season 2!

?
What TNG replacement programs have there been?

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

?
What TNG replacement programs have there been?

Only Season 1.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

?
What TNG replacement programs have there been?

Only Season One had a Replacement Program.
so far...

[Indiana Jones]

Regarding #3 they knew that the shot didn't match the dialogue but decided to keep it anyway...

With regard to the energy beam in "Timescape." We asked CBS to leave the energy beam where it was because, after some analysis, we realized that it was an artistic choice by the VFX team. Even though it is technically a mistake, we prefer to respect the decisions of the original team. In the case of Farpoint and Darmok, we believe those to have been random errors rather than deliberate decisions.

We regard the role of the CBS team as that of restoring the original artists' work to HD, rather than attempting to "fix" everything that we feel we might have done differently. We believe that most fans prefer that we honor the people whose work they have loved for so many years.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Regarding #3 they knew that the shot didn't match the dialogue but decided to keep it anyway...

It wasn't an Artistic Choice.
No more than the shot in Encounter at Farpoint.
It was someone not paying attention back in, what, 1993?

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

It wasn't an Artistic Choice.
No more than the shot in Encounter at Farpoint.
It was someone not paying attention back in, what, 1993?

Is that just your belief or do you have proof from the people originally involved who have admitted it was a mistake? just I see no reason to doubt those actually involved in the remastering work who actually know the people involved.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with keeping it how it was originally mistake or not, so what if the throwaway line doesn't match up with the visual, its not like it causes the episode to suddenly become unwatchable or ruins the story but then perhaps I am not the die-hard fan I thought I was lol

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Is that just your belief or do you have proof from the people originally involved who have admitted it was a mistake? just I see no reason to doubt those actually involved in the remastering work who actually know the people involved.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with keeping it how it was originally mistake or not, so what if the throwaway line doesn't match up with the visual, its not like it causes the episode to suddenly become unwatchable or ruins the story but then perhaps I am not the die-hard fan I thought I was lol

I remember around the time Season 6 finished airing there were interviews with cast and crew and this issue came up then.
It was admitted to a mistake.
I think it was in a magazine, but I can't recall which one. there used to be so many back in the day. Now, there are barely any...

[solaris72]

Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

It wasn't an Artistic Choice.
No more than the shot in Encounter at Farpoint.
It was someone not paying attention back in, what, 1993?

In dialogue they mention the beam is coming from the "deflector array"; the main deflector is not specified. There could be multiple deflector arrays; the number has never been canonically established. Voyager is established as having a secondary deflector. The Enterprise would need to have at least two deflectors, as the saucer would need its own deflector after separation. An auxiliary deflector in the secondary hull is not an unreasonable concept, and this issue is way too nitpicky to be worth a large-scale recall. The previous recall was over a major audio issue effecting entire episodes, not single sound effects, and certainly not over an absurd hair-splitting question of how many deflector arrays the Enterprise has.

I'm fine with them making unobtrusive fixes, but I'll never criticize them for erring on the side of not revising the show. To have the energy beam coming from the main deflector would mean altering the composition of the shot.