Skimping on audio? - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

Woody · 06-09-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

Yeah.... I'm starting to come to the realization that I'll get a decent 720p projector "now" rather than waiting for any cheap 1080p to hit the $1,500 mark.... I know it'd make a huge difference at that size, but 37" television (my current one) is the largest screen I have ever had, and since I get so immersed in the audio, I think a 720p projector will be "good enough" for me... I really need to see a 720p side-by-side with a 1080p to make the determination.... I'm probably going to limit the screen to around 90" or so... if I got a 1080p I'd probably do the 120" (I have the room to pretty much go HUGE if I really wanted to.... but I'm not trying to impress anyone except myself, so I want the PQ to be "good" )

Depending on your seating distance, you would be surprised at the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 92" screen. (ie: the farther away you sit, the less the difference)

Beta Man · 06-09-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Woody

Depending on your seating distance, you would be surprised at the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 92" screen. (ie: the farther away you sit, the less the difference)

I'm thinking 15-17 feet...... I found a lot of DIRT CHEAP 720p projectors too.... so it makes the wife happy to know I can shoot well below the budget.... so that might help make my case!

HDJK · 06-09-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

Might have to wait then!!!!

If you want to go for 1080 sooner you might want to look at this open box offer here. It's a stretch for your budget (1699$) but maybe you can charm the wife into agreeing with this

?

Beta Man · 06-09-2008, 03:16 PM

Decided to look up info on it, and found it Refurbed for less

http://www.proviewdigital.com/mercha...Store_Code=pro

wow.... this could be a Done-deal !!!!!

prerich · 06-11-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

Decided to look up info on it, and found it Refurbed for less

http://www.proviewdigital.com/mercha...Store_Code=pro

wow.... this could be a Done-deal !!!!!

Jump on this projector!!! I love my AE700U and this one is much better!

Beta Man · 06-11-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by prerich

Jump on this projector!!! I love my AE700U and this one is much better!

Tried.... wife likes the idea of the $800 720p one

I guess I'll be sitting far enough away to consider 720p, but letting this one get away is kinda hard .....

Gremal · 06-11-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

I would rather go balls to the wall on audio and skimp a little on the TV.

I'm inclined to agree. If you think about the emotional impact of a film, most of it is a reaction to audio cues. A scary sequence in a horror movie is nothing without the audio. Good surround sound is immersive and draws the viewer into the movie in a way that video cannot.

Beta Man · 06-11-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gremal

I'm inclined to agree. If you think about the emotional impact of a film, most of it is a reaction to audio cues. A scary sequence in a horror movie is nothing without the audio. Good surround sound is immersive and draws the viewer into the movie in a way that video cannot.

yep.... partially through the movie, I don't even realize the size of the screen.... think about your fascination with your new t.v. when you got it.... now it's "common place" although I'm sure some people still claim to get the same "wow" affect... but I doubt it's the same as the day you got it..... remember how 'odd' it looked, and how it looked like it over-powered the room even when it wasn't on??? Not so much anymore.

rkish · 06-11-2008, 07:15 PM

I've kind of built my "home entertainment" system backwards, as I inherited pieces of it from my late brother in law. We wound up getting his 36" Sony CRT (great picture for a CRT) and his (today) 10 year old BOSE 5.1 Acoustimass speaker system. I then patched in a 400 series Sony receiver (no HDMI)that I bought open box from Circuit City. Factor in an open box Polk subwoofer (as the Bose system is passive bass), this was more than adequate for 5.1 DD/DTS from SD DVDs.

After purchasing my 50" Panasonic plasma in April and more recently a BD-10A from EBay, I learned to abandon DD/DTS and hook up the multichannel analog outs to get the most out of BD movies. Though not HDMI, it is quite an improvement and more than adequate for the time being (money is tight).

I would agree that audio is very important, but I tip my hat slightly toward a better TV first...though I made sure to get the best out of my current AVR

pitabun · 06-11-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Headphone Czar

It seems like many splurge on a HDTV.. But when it comes to audio, they have a very small budget..Usually 2-4 hundred. I'm basing this on various TH sites I post at? Isn't audio half the experience, especially with HD audio with BR movies.. Why the neglect? Audio is more involving & immersive then video will ever be. I spent around 4,000 on audio & 2,200 on video, so I'm backwards.. Actually, I'm really backwards since most of my cash went into stereo, & not digital..

But I live in an apartment! If I turn up the volume too loud often enough, I'll get kicked out.

Shouldn't I wait till I move into a house?

Beta Man · 06-11-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pitabun

But I live in an apartment! If I turn up the volume too loud often enough, I'll get kicked out.

Shouldn't I wait till I move into a house?

I still don't understand why so many people think better speakers always = louder...... it's not really like that at all.... of course I like to turn it up a bit.... but I've seen people with $200 samsung HTIB who listen to their setup louder than I do...... but mine sounds 1,000 better.......

richteer · 06-11-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

I still don't understand why so many people think better speakers always = louder...... it's not really like that at all.... of course I like to turn it up a bit.... but I've seen people with $200 samsung HTIB who listen to their setup louder than I do...... but mine sounds 1,000 better.......

As Meatloaf would say, you took the words right out of my mouth! (Though I don't know anyone with HTiB.)

prerich · 06-11-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by richteer

As Meatloaf would say, you took the words right out of my mouth! (Though I don't know anyone with HTiB.)

Although I can bring the heat - I like to turn it down a bit especially when I listen to music - my mind is more envolved and I pick up subtle things that I wouldn't with playing speakers loud (this is one of the reasons I still use a DBX 3BX III).

pitabun · 06-11-2008, 08:39 PM

I've never thought of it like that before.

...Darn it! Now to have the latest and greatest, I have to spend my @#$(#@*@"#"(@#(#))#$%(#$&@#$!^@!#

What am I gunna tell my wife?

Beta Man · 06-11-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by richteer

As Meatloaf would say, you took the words right out of my mouth! (Though I don't know anyone with HTiB.)

I do.... It may have been $299 and I remember he was telling me he picked up some speakers (he has my old 36" CRT that I gave him, and he got a PS3 about a year before me (I had the LCD for more than a year before getting my first PS3) so he decided he wanted some surround sound.... he still doesn't own a single Blu-Ray, and doesn't really care honestly..... he does tell me he's looking at LCD/Plasma.... but I never tell people what's best for them... I think he's happy as can be with his surround setup.... He's more interested in the game aspect.

Either way... after listening to it, believe it or not, I think I'd prefer the t.v. speakers.... at least for watching television... maybe it's a little better with a movie, but I watched a movie, and kept thinking to myself that the sound was "off" but he certainly was playing it LOUD..... It wasn't a movie that has a great soundtrack (Beerfest) but I thought the movie was funny... but yeah... the sound.... yikes.

Like I said, it works for him, so that's great.

If my TVs and Surround Setups disappeared tomorrow.... no blu, no receiver, nothing.... and I had to start all over, I'd start with a PS3 capable of SACD (only until I could get a stand-alone SACD) with a 7.1 AVR capable of HDMI, and I'd probably get a nice pair of tower speakers..... I'd listen to 2-channel audio until I could justify a 32" T.V. then I'd probably add center, then surrounds, then sub, then rears (for cheaper) then Turntable, and then all the other goodies I have, until my audio was "complete" then I'd upgrade to a bigger display.

Many would probably run out to get the biggest HDTV they could, but I'd go NUTS without any audio.

Actually I may use the "excuse/opportunity" to get separates

Beta Man · 06-11-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pitabun

What am I gunna tell my wife?

Tell her you love her.... and after that doesn't work..... try "I'm sorry"

that's what I do

dad2erin · 06-11-2008, 08:41 PM

I work for a college and we buy projectors, and we have just came across an infocus in37, and the in37ep, the ep is 1,000, and the in37 is 1200. The picture is excellent.

olds403 · 06-11-2008, 09:41 PM

I was into audio before there were "home theaters". Sound quality was always more important. I have about 5k invested in my audio equipment - half of that on speakers/subwoofer. I only have 2k into my tv.

Woody · 06-11-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

I still don't understand why so many people think better speakers always = louder...... it's not really like that at all.... of course I like to turn it up a bit.... but I've seen people with $200 samsung HTIB who listen to their setup louder than I do...... but mine sounds 1,000 better.......

Blood dripping from your ears doesnt signify good audio????

Woody · 06-11-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

Tell her you love her.... and after that doesn't work..... try "I'm sorry"

that's what I do

Better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

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06-09-2008, 03:16 PM	#24
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	Decided to look up info on it, and found it Refurbed for less http://www.proviewdigital.com/mercha...Store_Code=pro wow.... this could be a Done-deal !!!!!

06-11-2008, 07:15 PM	#29
rkish Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2008 Location:Dutchess County New York Blu-ray collection:581 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:1	I've kind of built my "home entertainment" system backwards, as I inherited pieces of it from my late brother in law. We wound up getting his 36" Sony CRT (great picture for a CRT) and his (today) 10 year old BOSE 5.1 Acoustimass speaker system. I then patched in a 400 series Sony receiver (no HDMI)that I bought open box from Circuit City. Factor in an open box Polk subwoofer (as the Bose system is passive bass), this was more than adequate for 5.1 DD/DTS from SD DVDs. After purchasing my 50" Panasonic plasma in April and more recently a BD-10A from EBay, I learned to abandon DD/DTS and hook up the multichannel analog outs to get the most out of BD movies. Though not HDMI, it is quite an improvement and more than adequate for the time being (money is tight). I would agree that audio is very important, but I tip my hat slightly toward a better TV first...though I made sure to get the best out of my current AVR

06-11-2008, 08:39 PM	#34
pitabun Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Orange County, CA	I've never thought of it like that before. ...Darn it! Now to have the latest and greatest, I have to spend my @#$(#@*@"#"(@#(#))#$%(#$&@#$!^@!# What am I gunna tell my wife?

06-11-2008, 08:41 PM	#37
dad2erin Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:south hadley, ma Home Theater Gallery:9	I work for a college and we buy projectors, and we have just came across an infocus in37, and the in37ep, the ep is 1,000, and the in37 is 1200. The picture is excellent.

06-11-2008, 09:41 PM	#38
olds403 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Michigan	I was into audio before there were "home theaters". Sound quality was always more important. I have about 5k invested in my audio equipment - half of that on speakers/subwoofer. I only have 2k into my tv.

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