The Matrix 4K UHD (1999) - Page 71 - Blu-ray Forum

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bga84

That colour!

That resolution!

Right? So beautiful.

Amano · 05-17-2018, 09:20 AM

That was the site which convinced me that the green on the old Blu Ray was actually legit: https://www.thefilmframes.com/thematrix/

So everybody can judge by himself which Blu Ray is closer to the 1999 Matrix. Much more shots are on that site, probably all of them from reel 1.

Sky_Captain · 05-17-2018, 09:21 AM

I'm having trouble keeping my emotions in check, and I'm not even a huge fan of The Matrix.

Dragon Ranger · 05-17-2018, 09:29 AM

I don't have a 4K telly or 4K player but keep coming back to this thread and love seeing the excitement for this release. I may have to purchase this to future proof myself and get the remastered regular Blu.

Roonan · 05-17-2018, 09:34 AM

Somewhat disappointed with the new BD, which was the main reason for why I was willing to get this. Seems overexposed, and the green filter for the Matrix scenes is inconsistent. Let's just say that I will still get this, but I won't get rid of the old BD either.

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 09:36 AM

There are fans of green tint too.

Pieter V · 05-17-2018, 09:36 AM

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OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 09:39 AM

That building shot looks odd on the new master.

Still, I'm super-happy they resurrected flesh tones. Can't wait to see how the rest of the film looks. Especially first 30 minutes.

Pieter V · 05-17-2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

That building shot looks odd on the new master.

Still, I'm super-happy they resurrected flesh tones. Can't wait to see how the rest of the film looks. Especially first 30 minutes.

For a better judgement we have to wait on Caps-a-holic for example.

Joce · 05-17-2018, 09:51 AM

The old green tint was just exaggerated.

Roonan · 05-17-2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

There are fans of green tint too.

I never had a problem with the green tint, and the 2004 grading was supervised by the Wachowskis. I had a problem with the quality of the transfer.

With this new one, the quality of the transfer may be great thanks to the new master, but the inconsistent grading and the overexposed shots killed most of the excitement I had for it.

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Roonan

I never had a problem with the green tint, and the 2004 grading was supervised by the Wachowskis. I had a problem with the quality of the transfer.

With this new one, the quality of the transfer may be great thanks to the new master, but the inconsistent grading and the overexposed shots killed most of the excitment I had for it.

I personally don't care about the new BD, I was just interested in it to see what the remaster looks like. But I can see people being disappointed in it. There are just too many major problems: horrible encode (if these screens are accurate), filtering, clipped highlights problem is even worse here, odd colors at times... Despite higher resolution and richer palette with much better flesh tones.

wormraper · 05-17-2018, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Amano

According to Torsten Kaiser in the (now defunct) german Cinefacts Forums THERE WAS a green tint in the theatrical run and the DVD/VHS was wrong.

The green tint was there to color-ize the "in the Matrix" scenes, while a more blueish, natural tint was used to indicate the "real world". Thus the color had a real function.

I refrained from buying the old Blu Ray for years because it was mentioned in some forums that the green tint was wrong on the old blu ray. Now that I am convinced that the green tint belongs there I will probably refrain from updating to UHD. What a perverse world...

The green isn't GONE, the UHD still has it mildly. It's just not freaking neon green like the Blu-ray was. It's def greener than the VHS, but I saw the dang film half a dozen times in theaters, it didn't' make everything look radioactive like the Blu-ray

pawel86ck · 05-17-2018, 10:36 AM

Filtered or not, remastered BD still looks night and day better compared with old BD. There's no longer ugly EE (sharpness is natural now), and colors looks more authentic. On top of that first BD transfer was plugged with clearly visible compression artifacts.

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 10:45 AM

The new blu-ray is plagued with heavy compression artifacts too. Plus elevated blacks and destroyed highlights. Not defending the old master, but the new BD is far from being a satisfaction.

mckee74 · 05-17-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

The new blu-ray is plagued with heavy compression artifacts too. Plus elevated blacks and destroyed highlights. Not defending the old master, but the new BD is far from being a satisfaction.

I have to ask. Have you actually seen this in motion, or are you just guessing using screen caps?

PissedOffPeoN · 05-17-2018, 10:52 AM

Review http://doblu.com/2018/05/16/the-matrix-4k-uhd-review/

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mckee74

I have to ask. Have you actually seen this in motion, or are you just guessing using screen caps?

Look at "dodge this" shot. Half of the image is gone - ground, sky, Trinity's fair skin. Is it gonna magically re-appear in motion? BD appears too bright with it's elevated blacks too.

I need to see UHD before I make my final judgement, but BD so far, despite having a superior in almost every way master, is a botched job.

mckee74 · 05-17-2018, 11:02 AM

So that's a no then?

OutOfBoose · 05-17-2018, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PissedOffPeoN

Review http://doblu.com/2018/05/16/the-matrix-4k-uhd-review/

Posted 3 pages ago.

05-17-2018, 09:20 AM	#1402
Amano Active Member Member since:Dec 2015	That was the site which convinced me that the green on the old Blu Ray was actually legit: https://www.thefilmframes.com/thematrix/ So everybody can judge by himself which Blu Ray is closer to the 1999 Matrix. Much more shots are on that site, probably all of them from reel 1. Last edited by Amano; 05-17-2018 at 09:35 AM.

05-17-2018, 10:36 AM	#1414
pawel86ck Active Member Member since:Oct 2011 Blu-ray collection:8 Blu-ray reviews:1	Filtered or not, remastered BD still looks night and day better compared with old BD. There's no longer ugly EE (sharpness is natural now), and colors looks more authentic. On top of that first BD transfer was plugged with clearly visible compression artifacts. Last edited by pawel86ck; 05-17-2018 at 11:01 AM.

05-17-2018, 10:52 AM	#1417
PissedOffPeoN Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2013 Location:Missouri Trading Score:68	Review http://doblu.com/2018/05/16/the-matrix-4k-uhd-review/ Last edited by PissedOffPeoN; 05-17-2018 at 11:02 AM.

05-17-2018, 09:21 AM	#1403
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	I'm having trouble keeping my emotions in check, and I'm not even a huge fan of The Matrix.

05-17-2018, 09:29 AM	#1404
Dragon Ranger Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2015 Blu-ray collection:258 DVD collection:85	I don't have a 4K telly or 4K player but keep coming back to this thread and love seeing the excitement for this release. I may have to purchase this to future proof myself and get the remastered regular Blu.

05-17-2018, 09:34 AM	#1405
Roonan Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2011 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:2	Somewhat disappointed with the new BD, which was the main reason for why I was willing to get this. Seems overexposed, and the green filter for the Matrix scenes is inconsistent. Let's just say that I will still get this, but I won't get rid of the old BD either.

05-17-2018, 09:36 AM	#1406
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	There are fans of green tint too.

05-17-2018, 09:36 AM	#1407
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	(New) (Old) (New) (Old)

05-17-2018, 09:39 AM	#1408
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	That building shot looks odd on the new master. Still, I'm super-happy they resurrected flesh tones. Can't wait to see how the rest of the film looks. Especially first 30 minutes.

05-17-2018, 09:51 AM	#1410
Joce Active Member Member since:Nov 2010	The old green tint was just exaggerated.

05-17-2018, 10:45 AM	#1415
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	The new blu-ray is plagued with heavy compression artifacts too. Plus elevated blacks and destroyed highlights. Not defending the old master, but the new BD is far from being a satisfaction.

05-17-2018, 11:02 AM	#1419
mckee74 Special Member Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:302 Blu-ray collection:1225 DVD collection:436 Digital collection:583 iTunes collection:1266 Trading Score:258	So that's a no then?

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