Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[kraven]

Originally Posted by rickah88

They don’t?
Then the massive steelbook/wide releases from Disney/Marvel are just a smokescreen?

Maybe BB just doesn’t care about SF releases, or the other way around.

Yup it's a smokescreen. That's what I'm saying.

Forget the entirety of physical media going from the front half of the store to 3 rows in the back corner or completely gone, minus an aisle display. They have exclusive marvel/disney steelbooks. That cancels all that out.

THE POINT, that almost no one seemed to get, was that physical media makes up such a small percentage of BB revenue that it's not a big deal for them to tell SF to go **** themselves with their demands.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by kraven

Yup it's a smokescreen. That's what I'm saying.

Forget the entirety of physical media going from the front half of the store to 3 rows in the back corner or completely gone, minus an aisle display. They have exclusive marvel/disney steelbooks. That cancels all that out.

THE POINT, that almost no one seemed to get, was that physical media makes up such a small percentage of BB revenue that it's not a big deal for them to tell SF to go **** themselves with their demands.

YMMV. Both my BB stores have multiple media displays, literally, as you walk in the door.
So you would probably need empirical sales data to back up that blanket statement about physical media as a whole.
For SF media at BB, that writing was in the wall a few month ago when preorders were cancelled. Now there doesn’t seem to be any SF stock. So one could assume that someone nixed the deal, or didn’t renew it.

[kraven]

Originally Posted by rickah88

YMMV. Both my BB stores have multiple media displays, literally, as you walk in the door.
So you would probably need empirical sales data to back up that blanket statement about physical media as a whole.
For SF media at BB, that writing was in the wall a few month ago when preorders were cancelled. Now there doesn’t seem to be any SF stock. So one could assume that someone nixed the deal, or didn’t renew it.

How many different articles on sales data would you need to be satisfied?

[moviegeek1992]

Originally Posted by jcole8882

Whenever they announce new titles... I always go on Amazon video or YouTube and watch the ones I haven't seen...

In my opinion:

Road Games = no, too boring
Silver Bullet = yes, I love Stephen King Stuff
Body Parts = yes
My Bloody Valentine = yes ofcourse
Pet Sematary 2 = yes
The Fan = no
Prophecy = no
Dracula = no
The Fly (80s ones) = no
Let's Scare Jessica to Death = yes

You find Road Games boring but not Let’s Scare Jessica to Death

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by kraven

How many different articles on sales data would you need to be satisfied?

Not articles, actual sales data.
Even if you can find that, the ultimate media aisle: the website is bursting at the seems.
Media has been around for decades and it will be around for decades.

Just for giggles, do a search on steelbooks.
Then sort it by newest. Lol, tell me how that’s shrinkage.

Any business will experience peaks and valleys. BB is no different.
Just because they cut SF(I assume) from their diet doesn’t mean their media menu is in massive decline.

[kraven]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Not articles, actual sales data.
Even if you can find that, the ultimate media aisle: the website is bursting at the seems.
Media has been around for decades and it will be around for decades.

Just for giggles, do a search on steelbooks.
Then sort it by newest. Lol, tell me how that’s shrinkage.

Any business will experience peaks and valleys. BB is no different.

You know articles have sales data in them right?

[TripleHBK]

When I made my comments regarding Scream Factory/Best Buy however many pages back they were, I was more referring to the lack of Scream Factory titles on the website. Yes I would love a huge media section in each store as much as the next person but all retailers are cutting back in that regard so I don't completely fault Best Buy. What's far more annoying (for me at least) is the fact that the titles in question aren't even being stocked on the website leaving me with less buying options.

It'd be great to stroll into a store and grab a copy of something off a shelf, but far more troubling to me is the lack of films online. This problem isn't exclusive to Best Buy either, Target, Wal-Mart, and Best Buy are all sort of in the same position.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by kraven

You know articles have sales data in them right?

Sure.
And articles almost always have a slant to them, based on what point the editor is trying to get across.
Just looking at lump percentages year over year never tells the whole story.

[kraven]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Sure.
And articles almost always have a slant to them, based on what point the editor is trying to get across.
Just looking at lump percentages year over year never tells the whole story.

You're right. I'm wrong. Sales of physical media are better than they've ever been!

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by kraven

You're right. I'm wrong. Sales of physical media are better than they've ever been!

That would be nice, but I never said that. Only that they weren’t as bleak as some here like to claim.

[Wolfking]

When they announce new titles... I was like omg yes, and here are my thoughts

In my opinion:

Road Games = Haven't seen
Silver Bullet = YES!!!!!!!
Body Parts = Haven't seen
My Bloody Valentine = Yes
Pet Sematary 2 = Haven't Seen
The Fan = Haven't Seen
Prophecy = Yes!
Dracula = Haven't Seen
The Fly Collection = Haven't Seen (Except for the remake, and Yes)
Let's Scare Jessica to Death = Haven't seen
Big Trouble in Little China = HELL YEAH
The Abominable Snowman = Haven't seen
Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde = Haven't seen
Universal Horror Collection: Volume 3 = Haven't seen

also check out this page, I managed to keep the list for Scream factory release on wikipedia to a userpage of mine, go there and check it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:T...ctory_Releases

[FrancisP]

Originally Posted by kraven

Yup it's a smokescreen. That's what I'm saying.

Forget the entirety of physical media going from the front half of the store to 3 rows in the back corner or completely gone, minus an aisle display. They have exclusive marvel/disney steelbooks. That cancels all that out.

THE POINT, that almost no one seemed to get, was that physical media makes up such a small percentage of BB revenue that it's not a big deal for them to tell SF to go **** themselves with their demands.

The fact that SF is a niche producer. The idea that they can dictate pricing to large companies like Best Buy and Walmart is ludicrous. I disagree that it has anything to do with physical media.

[FrancisP]

Originally Posted by rickah88

YMMV. Both my BB stores have multiple media displays, literally, as you walk in the door.
So you would probably need empirical sales data to back up that blanket statement about physical media as a whole.
For SF media at BB, that writing was in the wall a few month ago when preorders were cancelled. Now there doesn’t seem to be any SF stock. So one could assume that someone nixed the deal, or didn’t renew it.

It is more likely BB told SF to go jump in the lake. The pre-orders were $19.99 under BB's normal pricing strategy so they were not undercutting Scream by a whole lot.

[jcole8882]

Originally Posted by moviegeek1992

You find Road Games boring but not Let’s Scare Jessica to Death

I actually haven't watched that one yet.. I just want it cuz it sounds weird enough... but now I'm thinking I probably should watch it first...

[crikan]

Originally Posted by Luke Dodge748

Really? This sounds like they do in fact care, by providing customers with a better than advertised price they are doing their part in keeping physical media alive, while Scream Factory demands that they sell them for higher prices.

How could anyone have Scream Factory's back in this process? Let BB sell it for what they will and let Capitalism sort it out...

I think the low prices are what was hurting the market. To many genre film fans waiting years for just the right deal while these companies need cash to make more product.

[oilers73]

Could someone please tell me why there are complaints regarding the price of Scream/Shout releases, but not Arrow releases?

[moviegeek1992]

Originally Posted by jcole8882

I actually haven't watched that one yet.. I just want it cuz it sounds weird enough... but now I'm thinking I probably should watch it first...

You should watch it first! Definitely not a safe blind buy.

[Rzzzz]

Originally Posted by oilers73

Could someone please tell me why there are complaints regarding the price of Scream/Shout releases, but not Arrow releases?

Arrow has decent sales....

[trentdiesel]

Originally Posted by oilers73

Could someone please tell me why there are complaints regarding the price of Scream/Shout releases, but not Arrow releases?

Because that's pretty much all everyone does on here. And yes I complain about the complainers, I know

[critterdvd]

Originally Posted by Rzzzz

Arrow has decent sales....

BINGO! Arrow might be expensive on release day, but several times a year brand-new copies of their releases can be found for a reasonable price. Shout releases, especially Collectors Editions are hard to find new at a reasonable discount, even during their so called sales.