Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by diverdave

That's okay. Little Darlings has one classic moment when Kristy McNichol delivers the famous kick to the kid smoking a cigarette. I recall that the tv networks froze the kick before it reached (ahem) its "target".

Ian Matthews "Shake It" is great as are some of the other songs, but mostly the movie is meh.

I have to disagree. It actually has a good amount of great portrayals of honesty and emotion from what could've potentially been just another run of the mill screwball comedy. It's really a one of a kind film that doesn't get enough credit IMHO.

[Wolfking]

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[critterdvd]

Originally Posted by kraven

More likely Best Buy stopped taking them.

Funny enough I saw copies of "Mad Max," "The Strangers," and "The Craft" at my local best buy on my lunch break this afternoon.

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by scwilli1

Has SF stopped sending new releases to BestBuy?

Originally Posted by kraven

More likely Best Buy stopped taking them.

You're both right. Scream Factory won't send stock to Best Buy unless they agree to sell at MAP pricing levels. Best Buy won't stock Scream Factory titles unless they can sell them at their previously utilized retail price points which fall below MAP levels.

We've seen a handful of titles get around this in the last year, but overall the two parties have largely been at an impasse as a result of the pricing strategy. Wal-mart has largely taken the same stance as well.

Interestingly enough, I do feel that Best Buy isn't doing themselves any favors however as their Severin, Vinegar Syndrome, and even Arrow titles have all dwindled compared to years past as well.

[kraven]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

You're both right. Scream Factory won't send stock to Best Buy unless they agree to sell at MAP pricing levels. Best Buy won't stock Scream Factory titles unless they can sell them at their previously utilized retail price points which fall below MAP levels.

We've seen a handful of titles get around this in the last year, but overall the two parties have largely been at an impasse as a result of the pricing strategy. Wal-mart has largely taken the same stance as well.

Interestingly enough, I do feel that Best Buy isn't doing themselves any favors however as their Severin, Vinegar Syndrome, and even Arrow titles have all dwindled compared to years past as well.

Best buy doesn't care about physical media so it's not a big deal for them to take a stand on this.

[u2popmofo]

With Best Buy decreasing the size of / phasing out their media sections, boutique labels likely aren't going to be stocked at most locations. If you only have a couple shelves worth of space, they're going to stock it with recent theater blockbuster type titles, not a collectors edition of a horror movie most people don't remember. Regardless of how well the genre sells, ultimately inventory levels are decided by a supply chain team who are going to stock what they've heard of or think is likely to sell.

[Luke Dodge748]

Originally Posted by kraven

Best buy doesn't care about physical media so it's not a big deal for them to take a stand on this.

Really? This sounds like they do in fact care, by providing customers with a better than advertised price they are doing their part in keeping physical media alive, while Scream Factory demands that they sell them for higher prices.

How could anyone have Scream Factory's back in this process? Let BB sell it for what they will and let Capitalism sort it out...

[brooklynne]

If Scream Factory is getting Paramount titles now, why couldn't part of the deal spill over into Shout!, the parent company, for the non-genre titles so many of us have been begging for?

ORDINARY PEOPLE
GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH (both of these Oscar-winners)
ROMEO AND JULIET (1968)
ROMAN HOLIDAY
THE BRIDGES AT TOKO RI
A CIVIL ACTION
THE DESPERATE HOURS (1955)
FEAR STRIKES OUT
LADY SINGS THE BLUES
LAST TRAIN TO GUN HILL
MIRACLE OF MORGAN'S CREEK
A PLACE IN THE SUN
PLAY IT AGAIN SAM
PRETTY BABY
RACING WITH THE MOON
ATLANTIC CITY
THE RED TENT
TESTAMENT
YOU CAN COUNT ON ME
a bunch of Jerry Lewis films (DISORDERLY ORDERLY, etc.)
and many more...

[javy]

If Shout/Scream Factory is getting Paramount titles then they should release a nice new crisp scan of Polanski's The Tenant.

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by javy

If Shout/Scream Factory is getting Paramount titles then they should release a nice new crisp scan of Polanski's The Tenant.

The Tenant was announced for release oversea's just this week so odd's are reasonable that someone will be releasing it in the states soon enough.

[jcs913]

Originally Posted by kraven

Best buy doesn't care about physical media so it's not a big deal for them to take a stand on this.

Besides the occasional one from Target, they are pretty much the only retailer that sells physical media exclusives; steelbooks, slipcovers, some exclusive content, exclusive releases, etc. And these are not just for new releases, as they also do it for older catalog releases too. Only certain stores have their media sections reduced. All the stores in my market have 4-6 full racks still on the floor. Simple supply and demand. If the customers in the area do not buy, then floor space is used for other items. They also have 1 full dedicated row and a bunch of shippers for 4K releases. BBY is still a huge presence in the physical media game. 4K is the future and BBY is in it, unlike Target that basically killed all their media. They have more books now than movies, which is good for our society...But that's another topic...
As for the Shout thing, if there is not written agreement, like with Google, Amazon, Apple, LG, Sony, etc, then MAP pricing cannot be forced upon the retailer, it's that simple. Shout wanted to play games that they had no contractual backbone for and some retailers said no. You may see a release here or there, but possibly not like before from Shout.

[LeeFanatic007]

Originally Posted by kraven

Best buy doesn't care about physical media so it's not a big deal for them to take a stand on this.

Overall I agree. My local Best Buy removed their entire movie/music section earlier this year. All they have now is the New Release stand near the front of the store and a bin of cheap movies near the registers. Sure they still do exclusives for some New Release, mostly for really big popular films like Marvel, Star Wars and Disney stuff.

[Member-222782]

Spotted two copies of Hell Night at Best Buy yesterday, which threw me off a bit. 5 years ago a sight like that would've given me a heart attack (of happiness). Was almost tempted to grab another copy for my collection. I wonder if Arrow might license this at some point for the UK. I'll gladly double dip.

[jcole8882]

Whenever they announce new titles... I always go on Amazon video or YouTube and watch the ones I haven't seen...

In my opinion:

Road Games = no, too boring
Silver Bullet = yes, I love Stephen King Stuff
Body Parts = yes
My Bloody Valentine = yes ofcourse
Pet Sematary 2 = yes
The Fan = no
Prophecy = no
Dracula = no
The Fly (80s ones) = no
Let's Scare Jessica to Death = yes

[WKoA13]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Spotted two copies of Hell Night at Best Buy yesterday, which threw me off a bit. 5 years ago a sight like that would've given me a heart attack (of happiness). Was almost tempted to grab another copy for my collection. I wonder if Arrow might license this at some point for the UK. I'll gladly double dip.

Did they still have slips?

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by jcole8882

:Road Games = no, too boring

"Boring" is rarely ever a viable criticism of a film, but I can't say it's totally inapplicable here. Road Games was kind of a drag, which is a shame because the premise is fascinating.

No idea why they chose to virtually ignore the killer angle and instead focus on dull rapport between Keach and Curtis.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Speaking of Paramount releases, I could go for a blu ray release of John Schlesinger's underrated thriller Eye for an Eye. I just got done with a refresher on amazon prime (it's included for free with a membership right now just fyi) and I forgot how good it is. Kiefer Sutherland plays a real scumbag in it. Solid performances all around and some very intense moments. Seems like it would be a good title for Scream or Shout! Factory.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by WKoA13

Did they still have slips?

Yup

[jcole8882]

Originally Posted by SeanJoyce

"Boring" is rarely ever a viable criticism of a film, but I can't say it's totally inapplicable here. Road Games was kind of a drag, which is a shame because the premise is fascinating.

No idea why they chose to virtually ignore the killer angle and instead focus on dull rapport between Keach and Curtis.

Agreed.. I really wanted to like it.. but I felt like it was missing something... like no deaths basically... no epic ending... it was like they started the movie... listened to Keach talk the whole time... and then the end.. o.o

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by kraven

Best buy doesn't care about physical media so it's not a big deal for them to take a stand on this.

They don’t?
Then the massive steelbook/wide releases from Disney/Marvel are just a smokescreen?

Maybe BB just doesn’t care about SF releases, or the other way around.