Offical Neon Genesis Evangelion Info/Update Thread

[Bobo1313]

Originally Posted by mysticwaterfall

I debated on this for a bit since its not what I was expecting at all in terms of artwork, content, or price, but ultimately decided to put the preorder in. In the end, Eva is my 2nd favorite all time series, so I was always going to get a set, and fomo is strong. I mean heck, I literally see the NERV logo all the time

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Still could cancel depending on the standard set or an LE set more to my liking (especially if an LE keeps the book and classic subs). I have no need for either dub but do like the classic subs. And of course I'm a sucker for artbooks. Shame the bonus features are probably on the main discs or I would just sell those and keep the classic ones.

What's your #1 series?

[mysticwaterfall]

Originally Posted by Bobo1313

What's your #1 series?

Ranma 1/2.

Edit: Full list from the top 10 thread:

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All Time Top 10:
Ranma 1/2
Evangelion
Death Note
Code Geass
Eden of the East
Maison Ikkoku
Kimagure Orange Road
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Fushugi Yuugi
Full Metal Alchemist/Brotherhood

Bonus list of close but not quite to make Top 20:
Excel Saga
Love, Chunnybo, and Other Delusions
That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime
Hikaru no Go
Your Lie in April
Clannad
Patlabor
Card Captor Sakura
Violet Evergarden
My Hime

[BigOnAnime]

Originally Posted by Catbug

https://twitter.com/gkidsfilms/statu...112580609?s=21

So it’s confirmed, the “Official Version” of this release is the Netflix dub. Oh boy, I can already feel the collective nerd rage rising…

^

Originally Posted by GKIDS

The Ultimate Edition includes the Official Version of the Dub as it appears on Netflix on the main discs. The Classic Version of the dub is included on separate discs as a bonus feature.

[Bobo1313]

Is there a reason they can't just say Netflix/ADV/Manga dub like discotek does? It's making it more complicated than it needs to be.

[Herry Dunston]

If GKids somehow got the rights to include the VSI dub of the show, I like to think that means there's a sliver of hope that whoever gets the home video license to Thrice Upon a Time (and rescue license the previous three Rebuild films) will include the Dubbing Brothers dub. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea for those who prefer how FUNI handled the dub, but that's where I place my bets for.

[BigOnAnime]

Originally Posted by Bobo1313

Is there a reason they can't just say Netflix/ADV/Manga dub like discotek does? It's making it more complicated than it needs to be.

Wish I knew. Also I asked for full clarification.

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

Classic version meaning, the dubs produced by ADV Films for the TV series, and Manga Entertainment for the movies? Will these dubs be available in other releases, or are they going to be exclusive to the Ultimate Edition?

https://twitter.com/BigOnAnime/statu...50953540345857

Originally Posted by GKIDS

Your assessment of the bonus Classic Version dubs is correct. Details on forthcoming editions will be revealed on August 30.

https://twitter.com/GKIDSfilms/statu...51442919153666

[gundamcero]

lol. This Ultimate Edition is starting to sound less and less Ultimate with each new detail.

[EvaPenguin]

I'm concerned about the bitrate more than anything. I'm no video quality expert but they have to fit 52 episodes, 4 movies, and seven hours of bonus features across 11 BD50 discs (when you factor in the separate discs for the different dubs). From the low quality screenshot of the set, it looks like they're putting 6 or 7 episodes on each disc, for a total of four discs for the main show, and then putting D&R + EoE on a single disc, with a separate disc for the bonus features. To be fair, the JP Blu-Ray boxset also had discs with six episodes on it, but Death (True)^2 was put on its own separate disc from EoE, and it looks like here they're putting both movies onto one disc, which could potentially result in a worse bitrate (especially when you factor in the extra audio tracks).

I wonder if they're splitting the "Official" dub and "Classical" dub across separate discs to keep the bitrate as high as possible? At the same time, not including the OA episodes almost makes it look like they want to conserve the number of discs they're using. Either way, it's unfortunate that the OA episodes aren't included, especially for an "Ultimate" edition.

I pre-ordered this but I want to learn more from GKIDS about what's included on each disc, and maybe get some proper lossless screenshots of what the video actually looks like. I might end up cancelling and purchasing the JP Blu-Ray Box instead if the video quality is going to be noticeably worse.

[King Crimson]

Originally Posted by Catbug

https://twitter.com/gkidsfilms/statu...112580609?s=21

So it’s confirmed, the “Official Version” of this release is the Netflix dub. Oh boy, I can already feel the collective nerd rage rising…

Its only Official for GKids, for whatever that is worth. The official English dub is whatever the viewer thinks it is.

[Catbug]

Finding out the official version is the Netflix dub is actually worse when you think about it. First off, the English dub is apparently widely criticized for being an awful localization (no emotion and dry). Also, I remember a big uproar about Netflix censoring/altering suggestive scenes and dialogue, effectively ruining the intended immersion and meaning of said scenes. And when you think about it, since the official version is the Netflix cut, those who only care about the subbed version will not only get the Netflix subs, but you will also be subjected to those cut/censored scenes. Effectively, I (and some others) am only really getting this for the blu-ray version of the classic dub. But even that is a moot point because it is most likely missing Fly Me to The Moon along with the Official Version. This is very disappointing. And to think, after all the speculation about a new localization script and new cast…

So for those only looking to own the episodes and two movies the question is, “is the upgraded video/audio of the 2003 cut worth the edited out content/FMTtM?” Either way I’m being buried with my Platinum DVD set at this point. It’s looking like this is going to remain the definitive North American edition for all time. Always.

[BigOnAnime]

Don't know why these packaging shots aren't on the US page, but the UK page shows it's a clamshell box, in addition to the three other packaging shots already on the GKIDS store page.


https://evangelion.alltheanime.com/

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by Catbug

https://twitter.com/gkidsfilms/statu...112580609?s=21

So it’s confirmed, the “Official Version” of this release is the Netflix dub. Oh boy, I can already feel the collective nerd rage rising…

So I'd have to buy a copy of the UE in order to get the "classic dub" (that's included on bonus discs in the UE) ??

bwahahahahaha nope. I mean that's a nope on all of your upcoming standard editions too if that's the case.

I can wait until NGE on BD release #5.5555, Gkids. This is starting to look like a Dragonball Z situation. Just a series of inferior releases trying to get people to double-dip. As if there's not going to be a way nicer CE than this coming out sometime down the line.

Boy did Gkids lose a ton of public good will today! What a disaster launch of the most anticipated anime-on-disc release of 2021!

[omgitsgodzilla]

Originally Posted by EvaPenguin

I'm concerned about the bitrate more than anything. I'm no video quality expert but they have to fit 52 episodes, 4 movies, and seven hours of bonus features across 11 BD50 discs (when you factor in the separate discs for the different dubs). From the low quality screenshot of the set, it looks like they're putting 6 or 7 episodes on each disc, for a total of four discs for the main show, and then putting D&R + EoE on a single disc, with a separate disc for the bonus features. To be fair, the JP Blu-Ray boxset also had discs with six episodes on it, but Death (True)^2 was put on its own separate disc from EoE, and it looks like here they're putting both movies onto one disc, which could potentially result in a worse bitrate (especially when you factor in the extra audio tracks).

I wonder if they're splitting the "Official" dub and "Classical" dub across separate discs to keep the bitrate as high as possible? At the same time, not including the OA episodes almost makes it look like they want to conserve the number of discs they're using. Either way, it's unfortunate that the OA episodes aren't included, especially for an "Ultimate" edition.

I pre-ordered this but I want to learn more from GKIDS about what's included on each disc, and maybe get some proper lossless screenshots of what the video actually looks like. I might end up cancelling and purchasing the JP Blu-Ray Box instead if the video quality is going to be noticeably worse.

Seven episodes at 25 minutes each is just shy of three hours; Death and EoE come to a little over two and a half. If they're not sharing the discs with any extras, it's not that tight a squeeze. I'm not worried

[gundamcero]

No matter what version I buy it will always have the Official Version for me.

[Herry Dunston]

For time immemorial, Evangelion will always be controversial for one reason or another.

[Takao]

I do enjoy the VSI dub being described as the official one because that implies ADV actually created a fandub.

[InuYashaCrusade]

Originally Posted by Takao

I do enjoy the VSI dub being described as the official one because that implies ADV actually created a fandub.

It sure as hell sounds like one. Has not aged well at all.

Technically the VSI dub is the "official" one because it was under Khara's direct supervision.

[King Crimson]

Originally Posted by Takao

I do enjoy the VSI dub being described as the official one because that implies ADV actually created a fandub.

Which makes the naming of the official dub even more pathetic considering the production value behind the ADV Dub is superior in every relevant category.

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by Takao

I do enjoy the VSI dub being described as the official one because that implies ADV actually created a fandub.

I can fail parallel structure in just two notes:

"second children".

[King Crimson]

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

Don't know why these packaging shots aren't on the US page, but the UK page shows it's a clamshell box, in addition to the three other packaging shots already on the GKIDS store page.


https://evangelion.alltheanime.com/

Beautiful!