Star Trek The Motion Picture Director's Edition 4K UHD/DLX (1979)

[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by Bolty

I simply HATE the box. If the box was $45-$50 I might buy it and then immediately transfer it to a case. And I'd still be stuck with a box I didn't want -- so I'd give it away or try to sell it -- I guess?
I am a completist but I'm really not a fan of the SLV anyway so I am not stressing it, but for the folks who love that version -- kind of a bummer for sure.

I could be wrong, but I think there's a good chance the box is in that price range around Black Friday.

BTW, where is it selling for $75? I keep seeing that price quoted.

[KMFDMvsEnya]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Conversely, I don't understand the compulsion to vilify a corporation at every turn, either.

No complaints from me in regards to the six films set at the current asking price.
Nor for the stand alone ST-TMP-DE set, although they should have included the 1080p blu-ray copy as well. Rather miserly of them not to.

The remaining five film single releases, also no complaints on pricing.

Where there has been actual contention with the recent Trek releases lies with the 3 disc luxury fancy pants edition.

I am sure someone at Paramount is thanking you for all your selfless service in arguing for excessive pricing.

[OneBuckFilms]

My feeling on the Complete Adventure

It looks like there is a book with artwork, perhaps based on the Art of Star Trek The Motion Picture book, and that is really where the bulk of the set's value is outside of the movie.

The stickers look like a nice throw-away extra, and the packaging for the disks themselves looks like it would be nice.

The picture shows everything unpacked, and visually puts a lot of emphasis on the poster, stickers etc., and it seems most people are missing the book, or overlooking it in some way.

This has better value for money that a bunch of stickers and a poster.

If I were on 4K I might have been tempted by it.

The issue for me comes from a number of factors:

- The movie is in 4K, but there is no Blu-ray version of the movie, or Blu-ray SKU of the Complete Adventure.
- The movie itself is not in a standard 4K case, making shelf space an issue.

That said, if I were on a 4K setup I'd be tempted to get this set + individual releases for II thru VI.

As it stands (and have mentioned), I am not on 4K, and don't have the shelf space, and the SLV is not of primary importance to me, I'm simply going with the 6 movie set (9 cuts) covers for my current setup as well as future-proofing.

[Bolty]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I bought those plastic sleeves that you recommended. So long as the initial disc extraction doesn't cause any scratches, I can tolerate the packaging. How the discs are stored is my only complaint here, but that is easily rectified.

Right, if the discs can survive until they get to our hands then we can transfer them to those sleeves. Up till now on the digibooks I watched them right away and put them in cases -- now I will watch them right away and then straight into the sleeves.

Pretty sure $82.99 is the low point of the box set.

[grayskale]

Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

ST-TMP CAE is too farking overpriced.

The US release only having 3 discs is miserly.
Bunch of paper based material I personally do not care that much about but others may find them compelling.
Maybe a slim picture book comprised of 20 pages or if they are being generous 50 pages.

Then making the SLV version exclusive to this set and only on the 4K disc is quite obnoxious and exploitative of the older fan base.

At that price and when i first saw the photos of the CAE, i thought it came with a model of the Enterprise or at least have the slip unfold into a 3d popup of the ship.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

I am sure someone at Paramount is thanking you for all your selfless service in arguing for excessive pricing.

What's excessive is entirely subjective. I find the price to be acceptable. If I did not, I would not have paid it. When it comes to non-essential items I pay acceptable prices because I CHOSE to pay them. I was not exploited or victimized in any way by buying this set.

Paramount no more sees my "selfless service" here in this thread any more than they do the obsessive bellyaching of someone who will probably buy this set, anyway, and then resent it forever.

If I wanted Paramount to know that I was unhappy with this release, I would write to them (at least ONCE) and not just about it here over and over and over again where no can do a damn thing about any of it except to make their choice: buy it or skip it.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by mar3o

By the way, this comment aimed at me is unfair...

If the shoe fits...

[Bolty]

Regardless (or irregardless ?) of the price, I don't get the omission of the Blu-ray. The discs exist (the DE BR, the Theatrical BR) -- why not throw them in? The cost of doing so must negligible. Why hurt the sales of the exclusive item that you are most trying to sell.

Or re they trying to push sales of the 1-6 box which is perhaps more profitable because it's just standard plastic cases with a cheap cardboard sleeve. Nobody is complaining about the $119.99 (lowest currently) price point. Wouldn't consumers generally expect a box set to be somewhat cheaper than buying individual items?

I almost never see tire sales that say "buy 4 -- get none free!"

[KMFDMvsEnya]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Regardless (or irregardless ?) of the price, I don't get the omission of the Blu-ray.

Irrespective of the price...
Regardless works as well.

Irregardless is not a proper word but since it is so commonly misused it is rather widely understood so in effect is acceptable in conventional vernacular but incorrect for more formal communications.

[Number_6]

Originally Posted by OneBuckFilms

My feeling on the Complete Adventure

It looks like there is a book with artwork, perhaps based on the Art of Star Trek The Motion Picture book, and that is really where the bulk of the set's value is outside of the movie.

The stickers look like a nice throw-away extra, and the packaging for the disks themselves looks like it would be nice.

The picture shows everything unpacked, and visually puts a lot of emphasis on the poster, stickers etc., and it seems most people are missing the book, or overlooking it in some way.

This has better value for money that a bunch of stickers and a poster.

^
This is a great point which I’ve thought about a number of times.

Without having all the details - whether this is an abridged version or a full softcover version of the hardcover Art book - it could very well be unabridged as I have the HC Art book and it’s not real thick and the box on this is pretty good size.

The retail price on the hardcover is $50, Amazon has it discounted now for $27 and some change.

So assuming an unabridged softcover of the book is “worth” $15-20 (I have to imagine actual MSRP for a SC would be at least that, probably more) and you don’t already have the hardcover, that is some value baked into the overall package price.

[Number_6]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Wouldn't they be bragging about having that art book in the box? It would make the price seem more reasonable. Can they be that stupid and are we counting on it?

As I said, it would be nice to get some more details about ALL the contents of the box (it looks like there’s some kind of booklet that deals with the merchandise for the film, I’d like to know more about what that is).

At the same time, people have had no problem making out the stickers, bumper stickers and poster (which most have thoroughly ridiculed) without any “bragging” from Paramount to draw attention to them. They’re just clearly visible in the picture.

What the other poster was observing is that there’s also some kind art book that is also clearly visible in the picture and it seems it’s been largely ignored.

I understand the Deluxe box is a sore spot for some, but if they’re going to harp on the stuff they think is “junk” just based solely on the picture, it seems only fair to acknowledge stuff that might also be of value based on the same picture without any “help” from Paramount.

[User897]

Wow, I stopped by this thread and saw that there had been a lot of posts that might have some updated info. Then I read them.

JFC.

I agree that the "book" might be a worthy little treasure, although it will be rather small. I also agree about the USA release (so far) showing that there will be no BD's of the different cuts of the film. That is why I went for the UK release that still shows it as a 5-disc set that includes the BD's. Again, this is "so far" and can change at any moment. I guess the "not knowing" is my biggest gripe about this thing. I just hope the information is updated and confirmed while we have a chance to cancel one and go with the other.

I think the most important thing to remember about The Director's Edition 2022 is that the things they got right outweigh the things they did not. I wish it was 100% perfect too, but that's where we are at.

[Bolty]

When you release 11 (!) new Trek disc releases in one day and alternate versions overseas no press announcement is going to answer every question. Still, they really did a poor job of trying. Bill Hunt asked them a few questions and they got back to him, but I wonder still about some of those answers.

Was there a reason they couldn't confirm what aspect is being used for the ST6 release. People assume (probably rightly) it will be 2.39 -- but was it hard to state so specifically? There is a supposed Isolated score music track for the DE but the DE has edited down some of Goldsmith's pieces to conform to the new edit. Are they really offering a second edited isolated score after already releasing one for the Theatrical. Personally if I want to hear the score I want the unedited version.
Are they including only 3 (of 5) parts of the "Journey to the Silver Screen" doc? That's dumb. Or will parts 4 & 5 be on the ST 5 and/or 6 -- not mentioning it is...also dumb.
Are Meyer's commentaries for 2 & 6 -- recorded for the extended cuts being EDITED DOWN and attached to the shorter cuts? That's moronic. But that's what they have stated and in some cases confirmed.

This is going to be sorted out only AFTER people have them in hand and then it will still be confusing claims and corrections. Oh well, it will be interesting.

EDIT: the below image clarifies it is not the "Art of..." book they folks were hoping for. Just archives of "never before seen photos..."

[KC-Technerd]

Originally Posted by SwissHD

Well.....lets just say the 2022 is a bit rough.....
I get the intention for this change. Going for the originally Storyboarded look. But its too distracting overall.
Thats the only thing in the new Directors Edition i really dont like.

Would be cool if they tweaked it a little more for the final UHD/Blu Ray but i doubt it.

Thanks for the comparison. I agree it is a little bit rougher than the previous version, but I found the resulting overall change to the set design significantly more distracting than the rough edges. I also found the starfield movement vs nacelle orientation in the 2001 DE DVD version making it appear the Enterprise was warping through space sideways a much bigger distraction. And with the current version I find the digital artwork errors much more disturbing. One was supposedly intended to correct a continuity problem, and instead of correcting it, it compounded it.

[KC-Technerd]

Originally Posted by Steel76

Yeah, the shot of San Fransisco has some mediocre FX.
Just look how the building have been pasted into this shot, with blurry edges around the bushes, etc.
I have seen youtubers make better SFX shots.

The two pylons of the Fort Point arch being merged into a single pylon, leaving no space for the arch in this view is what particularly bothers me. Both of the pylons and the arch between them are clearly visible a couple of shots earlier seen from the ocean side. Also the air tram station seen in the original matte painting by Matthew Yuricich was a closer match to the story boards than what's in either of the director editions. I would have preferred the team work from those rather than going off in a new direction.

[suspiciouscoffee]

Back of the CA box

[Number_6]

Originally Posted by suspiciouscoffee

Back of the CA box

So the “book” I was speculating about is actually the same thing as the booklet that’s slipped into the sleeve of the gatefold packaging.

Well, so much for the theory that it’s a version of the Art book. It does claim that it has “never seen before” content. I guess we won’t know if it lives up to that hype until we have it in hand.

[JohnCarpenterLives]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I bought those plastic sleeves that you recommended. So long as the initial disc extraction doesn't cause any scratches, I can tolerate the packaging. How the discs are stored is my only complaint here, but that is easily rectified.

I did, too, and put the UK Hitchcock bluray collection discs, Special Effects Collection (Them, Mighty Joe Young etc) and the Universal Monsters discs in them. They crumple up a bit and don't look perfect but they keep the discs safe.
I see everyone is repeating stuff. How about that shiddy DNR and botched Space Dock? Sure wish they'd just re-do the Theatrical/SLV disc.

[Deciazulado]

German regular version

Star Trek: The Motion Picture 4K Blu-ray DC

The rest of the German individuals are up too.

[Steel76]

Originally Posted by SwissHD

Well...honestly....those San Francisco shots were never the best Part of the Directors Edition.
On the Original one in 2001 everything was too static. Almost no movement. The water was frozen too.

At the same time i like that it doesnt look too perfect because the movie is still from 1979 and not from today.

Yes, it looks better than the 2001 shot, but it still looks like cheap CGI, instead of an old-school matte painting.

I don't want it to look like something from 2022, I want it to look like something from 1979.

It's not like Lucas revisions of Star Wars, but it's still distracting, and why I prefer to watch the theatrical cut.

I'm glad for people who aren't distracted by any of this though.