Star Trek The Motion Picture Director's Edition 4K UHD/DLX (1979)

[Bolty]

The Bluray of the Director's Edition is on sale at Amazon for $9.99
I ordered it. I like to have a Bluray backup to the UHD 4K.

EDIT: Sale over. Got my set on Dec 1. Perfect Slip and no loose discs.

[Gosszilla]

So far, Paramount has added "Star Trek VI - the Undiscovered Country" 4K to the $12.99 club on Amazon! No idea if Shatner's film, "Final Frontier" is going to be dropped in price today, but this works for now! I have been patient and have re-purchased all of the films a second time on 4K (except part V) at $13 each--just to get the slip sleeves and individual cases.

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-VI-The-Undiscovered-Country-4K-Blu-ray/dp/B0B4G37JKH?tag=bluray-070-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[itobandito]

Originally Posted by Gosszilla

So far, Paramount has added "Star Trek VI - the Undiscovered Country" 4K to the $12.99 club on Amazon! No idea if Shatner's film, "Final Frontier" is going to be dropped in price today, but this works for now! I have been patient and have re-purchased all of the films a second time on 4K (except part V) at $13 each--just to get the slip sleeves and individual cases.

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-VI-The-Undiscovered-Country-4K-Blu-ray/dp/B0B4G37JKH?tag=bluray-070-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed V hadn't gone on sale. Thought I may of missed it. Same here only one I haven't bought yet. Hope it drops today/

[50strat54]

Paramount did a good job in chopping up this release unless you buy the big box.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Bolty

I see where you might just be referring to the first movie. But even then if you buy the big box you're getting the 4K version of the director's Edition and the 4K combo disc of the theatrical and the TV version but they're not giving you the Blu-ray versions of those movies. And most people I believe, would like to have the movies on both 4K and Blu-ray.

Unless you get the 5-disk UK set.

[Alan Fraser]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Great. I wasn't aware there were branching issues with players for this title. Can't wait to see how my copy plays. This is why I hate complicated branching discs. UHD is already complicated enough without adding things like branching. We pay enough for these sets. Give us a second disc if there's two versions of the film.

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I have to chime in because of what I'm reading on this thread.

First, the branching issues have existed since the technology began.
To put it simply, the majority of problems of playing discs is due to the various manufacturers of players, each designing their own hardware (the player) and writing their own software.
Even a company as huge as Sony makes different levels of players and have different software, and why one model of players don't have a problem with playing some discs while another model may reject it - and the retail price was the same for two players you may have, and suppose to play the same type of discs, have equal appearance... but may actually be very different from each other.
I specifically bring up Sony for another reason, as that company has so much investment in several other areas of media (motion picture industry, program development, etc.), that's one company who has tried and tried to develop software that prevents you from copying their discs, and at times screws up the players (and disc recorders) as a result.

An example of what I mean: Personally, I've purchased well over 20 (plus) DVD recorders over the last 20 (plus) years, and all of them have been hooked up to satellite receivers and cable boxes (or recorded directly from the tuner in the recorder).
One Sony from 20 years ago recorded anything and everything. The next year, the newer model shut down while recording our local newscast. The reason was the copy guard type software used as part of the software of that recorder and it detected copy guard encoded within the movie trailer (commercial broadcasted during the local newscast).

A more recent discovery / example: I'll use the blu-ray disc "Fright Night Part II" imported from Spain as one of many examples I could bring up. I don't screw around with region free players anymore for several reasons, so when I saw the review that Fright Night Pt. II was region free and would play on any players sold in the U.S., I purchased it.
All of my recent (last 5 years or so) Sony players wouldn't play the feature, only the extras. My Panasonic players, computer drives, etc., didn't have a problem with playing everything on that disc. I've also discovered the (listed as Region A) Panasonic 4k players I've messed around with also play other discs without issues.

In a nutshell, issues like branching playback problems could be due to a variety of reasons, and not necessarily due to a player that may appear to be in need of servicing or replacement. It also doesn't have to be the most expensive player to get the same result as a mid-line priced player. It may be something as simple as the manufacturer, and why I'm fed up with dealing with Sony over 40 years as a broadcast engineer and having to deal with their broadcast technology / hardware as well.

Over the years I've learned that if you experiment with Sony vs Panasonic vs (add another company), not everything is equal.

I hope this helps.

Good Hunting.

To the smug people who like to give a smug "opinion" on this toilet called social media postings and threads...

I don't know everything and never claimed to like some try to appear - anything I write isn't "fake news."
It's either by 40 years of engineering experience or people I know and trust in the broadcast or entertainment industry over decades.

Many people in this world are turned off by those two words (fake news) because of what those two words really represent - negativity and/or abusive attitude.
People who unintentionally have been mis-informed is just that, pure and simple.
I think you'll find many people will have a positive response when you seek information or advice.
The moment you start spewing the words "fake news" - you get the kind of attention or opinion that may not benefit you.
Free advice for what it's worth.

[Geoff D]

I'd imagine that the main feature on that official bootleg Fright Night II disc was in 50Hz which is why the Sony decks wouldn't play it. Not exactly the crime of the century. And that's a lot of waffle to basically say "I don't like Sony" which has nothing to do with these supposed chronic branching issues that the SLV disc has.

[Alan Fraser]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I'd imagine that the main feature on that official bootleg Fright Night II disc was in 50Hz which is why the Sony decks wouldn't play it. Not exactly the crime of the century. And that's a lot of waffle to basically say "I don't like Sony" which has nothing to do with these supposed chronic branching issues that the SLV disc has.

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50Hz?
Nope. Good guess though.
Bootleg?
Nope. Good assumption though.
There are official studio releases and official licensing of products to other countries, like that movie, you know.
Coming from China is what you should really question as there are tons of examples that can be offered to prove theft of product and licensing - aka bootleg.

Hell, if you give me an address, I'll send you a copy (the official release) as this is where you appear to have talent to discover and observe.

As someone who is experienced in electronics and has read your posts, you do have a much higher level of understanding and possible knowledge, so sticking with the positive side of trying to explain something works to your advantage quite well.

However, we differ in many ways, especially the talents that we have to offer the world in our opinions or advice... and experience.
Besides my experience in professional commercial industrial equipment comes the personal home equipment experience as well.
True story: I also knew Sony techies over the years, and one time, while I was attending "Sony School" in MPEG technology and repair, became friends with a few that were surprised there were engineers in this world who knew the bugs (and fixes) better than they did.
Sony was the biggest pain in the a** because we had to figure out how to make their equipment "talk" to the rest of the studio / master control, in simple terms, and it was never a cake walk.

Your best work comes from your talents.
This one isn't one of your finest.

Some advice from one preparing to dig the 6 foot hole and has been around the block several hundred times, but still understands that I don't know it all.

You may have picked up on this about me... as a general rule with 30 plus years of looking at the toilet (social media), I don't care to come back and make a response personal.
You on the other hand, due to the respect that I have in (most) of your posting, have a talent.
Use it - respectively and positively.

[Geoff D]

Most Spanish releases of whatever random film are bootlegs. See the company Fright Night II is from? They're called Resen (short for Research Entertainment, which is a cheeky hint at what they do) and they're infamous for it. Just do a search on the internets. Their stuff is properly pressed but they're not legit, they take TV rips and BD rips and hash together their own versions, aided by Spain's lax copyright laws.

And that's still got nada to do with the supposedly terrible branching on the SLV disc. As varied as your own talents would appear to be this is whataboutery at its finest.

[badfingerboogie]

Resen only do bootlegs, this isn't exactly fresh news or anything. The Spanish Fright Night 2 Blu from them is 100% a boot, as are their releases of things like Return of the Living Dead 2 or Blair Witch 2.

[SpazeBlue]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Most Spanish releases of whatever random film are bootlegs. See the company Fright Night II is from? They're called Resen (short for Research Entertainment, which is a cheeky hint at what they do) and they're infamous for it. Just do a search on the internets. Their stuff is properly pressed but they're not legit, they take TV rips and BD rips and hash together their own versions, aided by Spain's lax copyright laws.

Originally Posted by badfingerboogie

Resen only do bootlegs, this isn't exactly fresh news or anything. The Spanish Fright Night 2 Blu from them is 100% a boot, as are their releases of things like Return of the Living Dead 2 or Blair Witch 2.

You mean Disney didn't officially license out Song of the South to them? I'm stunned.

[badfingerboogie]

Originally Posted by SpazeBlue

You mean Disney didn't officially license out Song of the South to them? I'm stunned.

Actually I was a little off, the Spanish edition of Return of the Living Dead 2 was released by a distributor called Llamentol, who basically just do unlicensed copy-paste jobs of international editions.

The Spanish Blu market is the like the wild west of home media.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by badfingerboogie

Resen only do bootlegs, this isn't exactly fresh news or anything. The Spanish Fright Night 2 Blu from them is 100% a boot, as are their releases of things like Return of the Living Dead 2 or Blair Witch 2.

If someone didn’t know it, it’s news to them!

[Alan Fraser]

Originally Posted by badfingerboogie

Actually I was a little off, the Spanish edition of Return of the Living Dead 2 was released by a distributor called Llamentol, who basically just do unlicensed copy-paste jobs of international editions.

The Spanish Blu market is the like the wild west of home media.

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If the claims you guys make are true, a few releases including Fright Night Part II (sequel to the original) doesn't show it to be a bootleg.
In the electronics world, to put it simple, there are ways of scanning a disc files and format and detecting errors (and copies) to determine manufacturing methods.
Those who believe when you make a copy of a digital file, you get an exact perfect copy, isn't true - and Fright Night Pt II is as clean as the Disney stuff from Spain (since that was mentioned above).

It says you live in or from Australia, so I'm curious if you know what's up with ViaVision / Madman products down there.
An example that comes to mind immediately is the American TV show Picket Fences.
The season 3 disc 5 ep 6 has garbled audio in an area that can be explained by a bad master used.
The season 3 disc 6 has been reproduced in wide screen stretched out (panoramic) video of a full screen 4x3 master, not zoomed in cutting off the top and bottom of the master - again, probably explained as a screw up by whoever created the disc (and to my knowledge was never fixed).
However, I've never been able to get a clean season 4 (and would love it of I could). I bought 3 sets of season 4 so far, and all were horrible reproductions (bootlegs).
The back label states NTSC but no indication of region on all 4 seasons, and various reviewers state these are region free.
And like I said, all sets of season 4 are clearly bootleg quality reproductions.
ViaVision / Madman in a hurry to get it out the door or ???

[Geoff D]

One more time: they’re properly pressed/authored/manufactured discs, but they are also bootlegs. Might seem like a contradiction in terms, but that’s the state of the Spanish Blu market for you. Unless people think that Disnee did actually license Song of the South to them?

[badfingerboogie]

Originally Posted by Alan Fraser

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If the claims you guys make are true, a few releases including Fright Night Part II (sequel to the original) doesn't show it to be a bootleg.
In the electronics world, to put it simple, there are ways of scanning a disc files and format and detecting errors (and copies) to determine manufacturing methods.
Those who believe when you make a copy of a digital file, you get an exact perfect copy, isn't true - and Fright Night Pt II is as clean as the Disney stuff from Spain (since that was mentioned above).

It says you live in or from Australia, so I'm curious if you know what's up with ViaVision / Madman products down there.
An example that comes to mind immediately is the American TV show Picket Fences.
The season 3 disc 5 ep 6 has garbled audio in an area that can be explained by a bad master used.
The season 3 disc 6 has been reproduced in wide screen stretched out (panoramic) video of a full screen 4x3 master, not zoomed in cutting off the top and bottom of the master - again, probably explained as a screw up by whoever created the disc (and to my knowledge was never fixed).
However, I've never been able to get a clean season 4 (and would love it of I could). I bought 3 sets of season 4 so far, and all were horrible reproductions (bootlegs).
The back label states NTSC but no indication of region on all 4 seasons, and various reviewers state these are region free.
And like I said, all sets of season 4 are clearly bootleg quality reproductions.
ViaVision / Madman in a hurry to get it out the door or ???

Mad Man and/or ViaVision are clean as a whistle from a legal standpoint, they're some of our biggest labels here, but their quality control can probably leave something to be desired. The issues you've described above sound like corners they've either cut or failed to notice at various stages of the process, which is certainly disappointing.

I think I see where the miscommunication lies, however - when we've been referring to Spanish bootlegs above, we aren't talking about the quality of the actual discs themselves - they most likely have access to decent pressing plants, and I'm sure companies like Resen have a pretty solid mastering process. We mean that the products are bootlegs from a legal standpoint - they're completely unauthorised, and thus don't have any kind of uniform standards to uphold to.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

One more time: they’re properly pressed/authored/manufactured discs, but they are also bootlegs. Might seem like a contradiction in terms, but that’s the state of the Spanish Blu market for you. Unless people think that Disnee did actually license Song of the South to them?

It's kind of funny that True Lies got a boot in Spain. Officially Unofficial or Unofficially Official.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by badfingerboogie

Mad Man and/or ViaVision are clean as a whistle from a legal standpoint, they're some of our biggest labels here, but their quality control can probably leave something to be desired. The issues you've described above sound like corners they've either cut or failed to notice at various stages of the process, which is certainly disappointing.

I think I see where the miscommunication lies, however - when we've been referring to Spanish bootlegs above, we aren't talking about the quality of the actual discs themselves - they most likely have access to decent pressing plants, and I'm sure companies like Resen have a pretty solid mastering process. We mean that the products are bootlegs from a legal standpoint - they're completely unauthorised, and thus don't have any kind of uniform standards to uphold to.

Yes, this: the use of the term 'bootleg' is being taken to mean a poor quality product, but that's not what we're referring to. They're properly produced discs but their content is totally unauthorised (and often a pot pourri of available materials, one thing will be ripped from one disc and something else from another) and if they were released anywhere outside of Spain they'd be illegal AF. That's why I call them official bootlegs

[shinobipopcorn]

Mine arrived in a box from Amazon but good gravy I could not get that disc in the middle part out. Almost ripped it before it finally came free.

[Paul Cordingley]

I have just watched the 4K disc, and I want to retract things I said based upon my Paramount- viewing.

My initial complaints were based on my poor 1080p 5.1 Paramount watch. This is an entirely different beast - entirely. I walk back quite literally *all* of my complaints. This is a nuanced and spectacular version of the movie I originally saw at the Warrington movies in 1979 with my dad as an 8 year old lad, and which I remember vividly (as you do in your formative years).

Grain is present - managed, to be sure - but present. The Atmos is superb. Colours are strong and correct - white is white, blue is blue etc. which is a big deal these days. The edit is subtle, in a way which is surprising and welcome.

I bought this on special because I was really upset with the Paramount- stream - I am so glad I did, because bizarrely that does not represent this movie at all. This disc, as usual wins.