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Old 11-26-2022, 02:38 PM   #3741
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Everytime I see everyone going on about these releases I just smile . Here's how I did it and not a single regret.
Also I was very close to even buying the single releases just for the slipcovers . Buy what brings you joy is my only opinion.
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Old 11-26-2022, 03:14 PM   #3742
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I can’t speak for everyone else, but when I’ve spoken about the SLV cut getting another release I was never suggesting they actually re-author the disc, just that they would repackage it in a regular plastic case.

As to it dropping to $30-40, I don’t have any “insider information” but I did notice that first Best Buy and later Bull Moose have restricted purchase to in-store only. And both restocked. I could see them possibly dropping the price that much to move them but unless you live near one of the physical locations it won’t do you much good.

As far as Amazon, I could see them dropping it as low as $48.99 -50 again but they still have the 50th Anniversary set in stock and I don’t think I’ve seen that drop more than 50% off so they don’t seem in a hurry to move these.

But if there’s pallets of these things sitting in warehouse still I wonder if they’ll end up at a discount store like Big Lots. I was in one a couple months ago and saw the Casablanca Anniversary box set for $20.


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If I someday heard they were putting the combo disc out as a Paramount Presents title I wouldn't be surprised and I would be tempted to get it.
What would be ironic about this is that if it was released like this it would be limited to 10,000 copies, be more limited than the “limited” CA and probably actually sell out in preorder.

And, yes, I would buy it.
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Old 11-26-2022, 03:33 PM   #3743
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Everytime I see everyone going on about these releases I just smile . Here's how I did it and not a single regret.
Also I was very close to even buying the single releases just for the slipcovers . Buy what brings you joy is my only opinion.
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I hear you.

And to be clear, I’m not upset that I bought it at $82 and now it’s dropped as low as $49. I preordered all the individual movies at $20 so I could make sure I got slips. A couple of those dropped as low as $13 on BF.

But I know when I preorder or buy on release day that I’m buying at the top end. It’s OT Star Trek, I love it so I’m ok spending money on it.

And now that I have the Complete Adventure in hand and do feel that $70 is probably a better “top-end” price and $49 a good sale price, I’m ok because I was able to get a nearly pristine copy in the beginning and personally wouldn’t want to risk a damaged copy from Amazon (that’s what holds me back when the 50th Anniversary set goes on sale).

I think what bugs me is just the blatant misinformation and seemingly outright lying about the “limited” and “exclusive” nature of this release just to goose sales.

Until a couple of years ago I was really into collecting vintage comics but got driven away in part because of all the hyping, manipulation and misinformation. So I guess I’m a little over sensitive to that stuff when I see it rear it’s ugly head.

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Old 11-26-2022, 04:52 PM   #3744
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$48 looked tempting but I'll only buy the big box for $30 and I will not lose sleep over the box.

I'll consider $12.99 for Motion Picture, VI and only $10 for V

I'm not a fan boy over The Motion Picture although my anticipation was really high when it first came out in the theaters but I left disappointed. Khan was the one where I said OH YEAH!

I have all the theatricals on 4K when I bought that 10 movie deal from itunes. I think I paid $20. I think Khan and Motion Picture included the Director's cut in Special Features not sure about VI but as I recall the Theatrical is better from all of the posts.

I'm fine with all of the theatricals anyway. Khan was great in the theater so Director's cut was just fun but was never essential to me nor was Motion Picture which is still kind of a dreary movie but I've grown accustomed to her face
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Old 11-26-2022, 05:53 PM   #3745
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I hear you.

And to be clear, I’m not upset that I bought it at $82 and now it’s dropped as low as $49. I preordered all the individual movies at $20 so I could make sure I got slips. A couple of those dropped as low as $13 on BF.

But I know when I preorder or buy on release day that I’m buying at the top end. It’s OT Star Trek, I love it so I’m ok spending money on it.

And now that I have the Complete Adventure in hand and do feel that $70 is probably a better “top-end” price and $49 a good sale price, I’m ok because I was able to get a nearly pristine copy in the beginning and personally wouldn’t want to risk a damaged copy from Amazon (that’s what holds me back when the 50th Anniversary set goes on sale).

I think what bugs me is just the blatant misinformation and seemingly outright lying about the “limited” and “exclusive” nature of this release just to goose sales.

Until a couple of years ago I was really into collecting vintage comics but got driven away in part because of all the hyping, manipulation and misinformation. So I guess I’m a little over sensitive to that stuff when I see it rear it’s ugly head.
Paid $100 for mine and not mad one bit for those getting it cheaper I'm just happy to be able to own my favorite version and it looking so great !
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Old 11-26-2022, 06:14 PM   #3746
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Please can someone confirm if the discs for parts 2 to 4 are the same as the original release?
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Old 11-26-2022, 06:48 PM   #3747
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This thread is for the first movie. Either in a single for the Director's Edition or with all 3 cuts in the Deluxe Complete Adventure.

But yes, the Sept 2022 6-movie set has the exact same 6 discs (3 UHD/3 BR) that comprise movies 2-4 in last years 4-movie set.
BTW Bolty , what combination of the movies did you settle on ?
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Old 11-26-2022, 06:59 PM   #3748
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BTW Bolty , what combination of the movies did you settle on ?
I finally just got the 6 solo movies for the original poster art packaging. I sold off my Trek 1 and Trek 4 from last years set. Keeping the Trek 2 as a spare and still trying to sell the ST 3 discs from last years set.

Just ordered the ST 1 Complete Adventure set, but it's like I'm spending $50 for the SLV because the set doesn't even come with Blu-rays for the DE or the TC. It would be a nice price if I hadn't already paid $24 for the DE of the first movie.
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Old 11-26-2022, 08:25 PM   #3749
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Hey, did anybody get the single Blu-ray of the DE? I remember a couple of people wanting the DE on Blu but not in UHD. Curious if it came in a black case or the standard blue. The Blu-rays of 2-6 had blue cases and no slip cover but the DE Blu-ray did have a slip cover with black trim.
Yesterday the DE UHD was $16 but the DE Blu-ray was still $18.
One I seen had black case and slip a week ago .
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Old 11-26-2022, 10:47 PM   #3750
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Hey, did anybody get the single Blu-ray of the DE? I remember a couple of people wanting the DE on Blu but not in UHD. Curious if it came in a black case or the standard blue...
Mine came in a standard blue 2-disc case, with black Slipcover as you describe. (I picked up the individual 4K/blu combos of II-VI, no way I could go without a blu-ray of the first one! Also got the remastered blu of TMP theatrical separately.)

I actually took my 4K disc of the DE out of the big flimsy Complete Adventures box and keep it in that case for easier access. Consequently, I keep two copies of the Bonus Features disc in the big box, one of them in an envelope that I keep in the pouch. I figure I won't look at the bonus stuff THAT often, but now I don't have to slide it out of the damned sleeve. Maybe someday I'll look into getting a 5-disc Blu-ray case (4K DE, 4K Theatrical/SLV, Blu DE, Blu Theatrical, Bonus disc) and Ebaying the duplicate bonus disc. Yes, I'm going to do a lot of things...someday.

Just remembered, I should have some 2-disc cases around somewhere, maybe I'll just keep the theatrical versions, 4K and blu, in their own case. (Which would not have a slipcover....oh, Christ, I give up!)
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Worth $48?
It depends on your view of value and what you're willing to pay for it.
The chance of the special edition dropping to $30 isn't likely, as I seem to remember hearing the cost of this set to retailers was about that price.
Having said that, if some retailers purchased more of these at wholesale once finding out that the stock was available, some retailers may find it sitting and not selling, and at a later date, blow it out at cost... but I wouldn't wait for that to happen.

As I said to Jar Jar yesterday, something closer to $40 could be coming but chances are that would come from the smaller retailers as the distriibutor seems to have this on their back burner and looking at moving recent releases first and foremost, especially now since physical media seems to have remarkable sales numbers considering the concerns over post pandemic and current inflation sucking the life out of extra spending for the holidays.
Edited to add: Yes, record spending is taking place and record charge card spending is taking place but that spending is going to more affordable items (like physical media for example, and not so much into the luxury spending).

The numbers are in regarding Amazon's one day reduced price sale yesterday and this set didn't set any record in sales, so the remaining stock may become more of a hassle to keep and could get blown out sooner than later, but that's anyones guess at the moment.

Oh, and the posts about this reissued some day as single releases, etc... I wouldn't hold your breath right now.
I've been spending a little free time chatting with some techies in the business and this kept coming up: due to the various brands of players and the fact that everyone has to have their own software to make these discs play, and the issues with "branching technology" by the way the 4k disc was formatted, this release kind of bit Paramount in the back side a little bit and hurt their bottom line (as the suits / execs would say unexpectantly - even though the design engineers warned them about that and repeatedly mentioned that the Longer Version should be by itself on one disc).
To re-release this and do it correctly (without the playback issues), money would have to be budgeted for recreating the disc from scratch... or just have the studios tell (Sony and a few others) to get their act together and agree on a standard for software, hardware, etc.

Good Hunting!

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Great. I wasn't aware there were branching issues with players for this title. Can't wait to see how my copy plays. This is why I hate complicated branching discs. UHD is already complicated enough without adding things like branching. We pay enough for these sets. Give us a second disc if there's two versions of the film.
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Great. I wasn't aware there were branching issues with players for this title. Can't wait to see how my copy plays. This is why I hate complicated branching discs. UHD is already complicated enough without adding things like branching. We pay enough for these sets. Give us a second disc if there's two versions of the film.
Had literally zero playback problems with the branched SLV disc
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Since this was released I have seen maybe 2 people complain about branching on the SLV and this being star trek we certainly would have seen many posts if people were encountering problems on a large scale. There's a lot of these out there and the people who wanted to see the SLV would assuredly have done so quickly.
Fake news.
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Since this was released I have seen maybe 2 people complain about branching on the SLV and this being star trek we certainly would have seen many posts if people were encountering problems on a large scale. There's a lot of these out there and the people who wanted to see the SLV would assuredly have done so quickly.
Fake news.
And it's not like this is the only branched title that Paramount have done on UHD, just in the Trek realm alone there's Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country and there are no widespread issues with those either. Isolated problems, sure, just like branching has always had on DVD and BD, but not chronic troubles.
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As to it dropping to $30-40, I don’t have any “insider information” but I did notice that first Best Buy and later Bull Moose have restricted purchase to in-store only. And both restocked. I could see them possibly dropping the price that much to move them but unless you live near one of the physical locations it won’t do you much good.
Interesting that Best Buy has upped the price to full retail $99.99 and kept it there through Black Friday, with consideration that their Price Match Guarantee excludes Black Friday week. I doubt that has lead to any movement other than possibly the backward movement of returns in order to take advantage of Amazon's Black Friday pricing. Considering that they are restricted to in-store only, when will be a better time than Black Friday to reduce the price below retail? (I haven't followed Bull Moose, but they are also showing full retail right now at $99.97).
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Since this was released I have seen maybe 2 people complain about branching on the SLV and this being star trek we certainly would have seen many posts if people were encountering problems on a large scale. There's a lot of these out there and the people who wanted to see the SLV would assuredly have done so quickly.
Fake news.
So far I've found branched 4K UHD BDs to be less problematic than branched HD BDs (in general).
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So far I've found branched 4K UHD BDs to be less problematic than branched HD BDs (in general).
And the one standout problem with branching on UHD - TrueHD/Atmos dropouts on some equipment when bitstreaming that audio - is a holdover from BD and MediaTek's chipsets anyway.
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Glad to hear branching issues with this disc aren't as much of a concern as was suggested. I do sometimes notice branching hiccups on UHD, like one of the Dario Argento titles that used branching. Right at the end before the end titles kick in, it hiccups briefly. That's a branching point I believe. Can't remember which disc it was now.
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WOW! Paramount's remastered 4K Star Trek films (most went on sale) didn't last long! The sale began late on Black Friday and only remained on sale for a short duration! I'm steamed that the TWO films notably absent from this sale are the same two Paramount didn't release LAST YEAR in the box set ( Star Trek V and VI)! I'm one of many who bought last years set and will have to buy the final two films (when I see them lower below $15). Perhaps they will show up on sale tomorrow for Cyber Monday?
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My complete adventures box arrived today from Amazon. Box looked great from the outside. Amazon shipped it in a box (!) and it was clearly unopened. All 3 discs were mostly good. Both UHDs had a scratch or two which isn't great to see but they weren't too deep. I took them out as gently as possible and even slid them directly onto a microfiber cloth as I was sliding them out but they were in there tight. Not sure if I scratched them sliding them out or if they were already scratched. The blu-ray also had a couple small scratches but nothing too bad.

Unfortunately it gets worse from here though because one of the "bumper stickers" had somehow slipped inside the booklet and got caught and peeled partly off, sticking to the one of the pages inside the booklet. As careful as I was to peel it off the page, it left lots of gunk and the page was also partly torn. I used a hair dryer to heat the gunk up and gently rub it off the page, but it will never be the same. Also there was a huge dent in the entire booklet going right through from front to back cover and all pages inbetween. Amazon is sending me a replacement.

Honestly the set it self isn't so great imo, but I already knew that. The booklet is nicely sized but doesn't have that many pages. The "poster" is tiny, roughly the size of a magazine page, much smaller than the posters you get with Arrow releases. The rest is garbage, including several stickers, one of which peeled and ruined the booklet as I mentioned. Real sloppy, Paramount.
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