Pioneer Pro 111FD findings?

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Originally Posted by ReggaetonSalsero

I was wondering why this set is so cheap. Now i see, it has no speakers, Not even a TV STAND? How can u not come with a tv stand? That's retarded. PLUS it has NO TV TUNERS? That is crazy, i don't have paid cable. I NEED tv's to have a QAM, HD, TV tuners because i run a regular live line from the wall and that is how i get my over the air channels. If this tv does not have a QAM/tv tuners, i would have to pay monthly for cable service. One big reason why i buy xbrs is because they all have QAM tuners on top of the tv tuners. How can i get around this without having to pay a monthly service?

Also, I saw value electronics, which was recommended to me here, they want 2000 bucks, but other places have it up to 200-250 dollars cheaper? Is the 2000 because this D NICE guy calibrates it on his own without u telling him and that extra cash is his personal charge to calibrate it? Or a can i not calibrate it myself like i do with the xbrs by getting a calibration setting from one of u or someone on a/v forum?

I'm holding off to see what u guys tell me as i value ALL ur advice, thanks

I wouldn't say it's retarded. Alot of us have HiDef cable/satellite, so a tuner isn't necessary. As for the stand, it's not always needed either. A few of us like our displays hanging on a wall...therefore we would need a wall mount kit anyways. For me, this display was perfect. I didn't need speakers on my display, plus I think the 101 and 500M look beautiful with a thin bezel and symetrical bezel going all the way around the picture...much like a picture frame. I never use the display's speakers anyway, I have a 5.1 system and dedicated receiver that handles all my sources for audio and video. I only use input 5 on the 500M, therefore I didn't need 3-5 HDMI inputs either. I don't understand why someone would buy a superior plasma display and not have a decent surround sound and receiver anyways. It defeats the whole point of a theatrical experience, IMO.

As for the tuner, one could always buy a stand alone tuner on the cheap, if they needed QAM.

Most of the dealers were offering free wall mounts/stands with these panels when I bought mine a couple months ago. I beleive Robert combines the stand in most if not all the packages he offers.

As stated D-Nice is an ISF technician that travels up and down the EastCoast calibrating many plasmas. He specializes in Pioneer. He knows these panels inside and out and is said to be the "Kuro Guru" by some. He calibrates a few panels for Robert. The results can vary depending on your enviroment. The ISF night mode is just as it sounds...this mode should be dead on no matter what enviroment as long as it gets dark where you live. Yes, he can run hot at times, but you would too if a bunch of jackasses kept asking the same stuff over and over again without reading the threads that already had thier questions answered.

To be honest, I am more than satisfied with "Pure" mode, myself. I use it for everything now. It could be a bit better with the ISF modes and calibration but it's really close as it is now. I used the Evangelo break-in slides for 150 hrs straight and used D-Nice's suggested "pure" mode reference settings. I did a few minor tweaks to suit my enviroment. It's the best looking pdp I've ever seen and I'm not just saying this because I own one, I mean it....absolutely beautiful picture and great processing with the 72hz mode when watching BDs.