a bit fusterated

[Beta-guy]

I don't mind debating HD-DVD users I usually end up winning until it ends up becoming personal attacks/bad attitude/just being dropped but tonight, I saw a post on HD-DVD.com where they claimed "HD DVD beats Blu-ray on European movie sales" they are just repeating an article talking about attach rates, are we just babysitting HD-DVD fanboys on the forums they act up with "we have better attach rates" and we end up saying "No, you have fewer players so fewer or equal sales will give you higher attach rates, are you grown up enough to talk about actual sales?"

I'm tired of pointing out the flaws in thier arguments and then 2 days later having to do it all over again, today a new guy got a HD-DVD player and I wanted to say return it for a blu-ray player but I didn't want to be a troll on there. is there a way to effectively debate or are we just going to repeat ourselves until HD-DVD has fewer and fewer fans?