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The Guardian · 12-07-2007, 04:07 PM

You mean $1m each not $1k right?

JTK · 12-07-2007, 04:09 PM

I suspect most people have known for a while that CES 2008 is going to be a milestone of sorts that gives us all some kind of indicator of which way this mess is going to possibly fall out.

For me, it's really very simple: If Warner defies precedent as a quasi HD-DVD supporter as I view them to this day and goes all Blu, then it truly is a shocker of a lifetime and for my money, essentially ends the format war on the spot.

There's no way HD-DVD will survive with only Paramount and suspect Universal support.

On the other hand, Stringer's "stalemate" comments become gospel fact if Warner abandons what I feel has been a pretense and returns to their original status as a full HD-DVD supporter.

And that point, it becomes a Microsoft victory all the way because the HDM market will be hoplessly split with no clear end in sight.

CES 2008 will be one for the books. I think we've all known that for a while.

CptGreedle · 12-07-2007, 04:10 PM

Oops. My bad. You are right. And not a many companies would be willing to give 1 million. But still with 170+ companies for support I am sure they can beat or at least match anything the HD DVD camp throws at them.

binarymelon · 12-07-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Guardian

You mean $1m each not $1k right?

Scratch that.

Nooff · 12-07-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sj001

No, when was that? What was the good news?

Looks like a good possibility of Warner going Blu-Ray very soon and dragging along Uni

Go Blu · 12-07-2007, 04:12 PM

I love the "UNI" hint!

GregBlu5 · 12-07-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sj001

No, when was that? What was the good news?

It was left vague.

Esox50 · 12-07-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GarettP

So are you saying they are also trying to see what reaction if any they are trying to get out of Universal?

If you're Universal, and you start seeing/hearing which way WB is leaning...whachya gonna do? Ride the sinking ship, or try to get your foot in the door first? Any significant leverage goes away for Universal the moment WB goes BD exclusive...

Paramount made their deal, they got their $150 to go down with the ship. Good for them. In all this the funniest thing is that Universal, the only HD DVD holdout for the longest time, may have played this game of chess in the worst possible fashion...

GregBlu5 · 12-07-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Esox50

If you're Universal, and you start seeing/hearing which way WB is leaning...whachya gonna do? Ride the sinking ship, or try to get your foot in the door first? Any significant leverage goes away for Universal the moment WB goes BD exclusive...

Paramount made their deal, they got their $150 to go down with the ship. Good for them. In all this the funniest thing is that Universal, the only HD DVD holdout for the longest time, may have played this game of chess in the worst possible fashion...

Remember the other rumor--that Universal people had been seen scouting out Blu-ray manufacturing facilities. Hmmm. Maybe not so much a rumor afterall.

-Greg

JTK · 12-07-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Blu

I love the "UNI" hint!

That one actually surprises me a bit.

I'm pleasantly surprised in general by what I'm seeing today, that's for sure.

The Guardian · 12-07-2007, 04:18 PM

That's a good point about Universal really... but they still have one last shot don't they.. if they at least go Neutral now, that semi-effectively ends the war as well, they steal WB's thunder and get to be the heroes (perhaps by announcing Heroes on Blu? lol)... and possibly can get concessions out of the BDA for doing so. Win-Win-Win situation.

JAGUAR1977 · 12-07-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BluOgre

Warner has always seemed to like Blu-ray more but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a done deal. Anything can happen although I don't think you have to worry about Warner dropping Blu-ray.

That's the key, they could go Blu-ray exclusive, they could remain neutral, but all indications are they certainly won't go HD-DVD exclusive.

Nooff · 12-07-2007, 04:18 PM

Probably also one of the reasons why Uni is mostly caughing up catalog titles, and most importantly, FAR less titles than they promised HD DVD in the first place.

Nooff · 12-07-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Guardian

Win-Win-Win situation.

TRIPLE WIN for Blu

spicynacho · 12-07-2007, 04:20 PM

We don't want uni to switch too fast. They need some time to do better encodes of their movies for BR, remaster with DTS-MA etc...

marzetta7 · 12-07-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JTK

That one actually surprises me a bit.

I'm pleasantly surprised in general by what I'm seeing today, that's for sure.

Indeed. Business week is no SA0CD. Plus with the added hint drops for Penton on Warner as well as Universal, I'd say I'm liking where this is potentially heading.

Elandyll · 12-07-2007, 04:20 PM

I just can't rejoice too fast, for my own sanity in case it just doesn't happen.

But I think the interview of a Warner exec talking about them dropping T -HD due to retailer pressure (wanting only a given amount of shelf space) made me hope for a rapid resolution instead of dragging this on.

In the end, it's all about $$ per square inch of shelf, and in most reported cases I think Blu Ray has spoken...

Universal and Paramount are facing the same problem (Universal has strong ties with MS though, but their recent clash with Apple might have made them realize you do not want to totally depend on 1 online provider in the long run I think). How to maximize sales, and please their retailers?
Right now, the split can't possibly be good for biz, and we all know that Warner going back to HD DVD would only reinforce the split and possibly stall things.

Scorxpion · 12-07-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sj001

No, when was that? What was the good news?

Originally Posted by paidgeek
Sorry that I have not been on the forum lately. Work has been very busy and that combined with travel and the holidays as made it hard to keep up.

Some good news. I met with the folks at Sony Computer Entertainment America recently and met with a gentlemen there who can monitor and post hear from time to time. It will be much better for you to get first hand information from this fellow than for me to try passing information back and forth....

More good news, watch for promotions at the major retailers next week...
Thanks to all for your patience...

Neo65 · 12-07-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Guardian

You mean $1m each not $1k right?

A mill here, a mill there, pretty soon it adds up to real money.

sj001 · 12-07-2007, 04:21 PM

The only thing about Universal that gives me pause is that douchebag Ken Graffeo who sits on the HD-DVD PG board, I'm sure he will resist everything in going neutral or Blu. Hopefully they will can his sorry ass!

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12-07-2007, 04:07 PM	#221
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	You mean $1m each not $1k right?

12-07-2007, 04:09 PM	#222
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	I suspect most people have known for a while that CES 2008 is going to be a milestone of sorts that gives us all some kind of indicator of which way this mess is going to possibly fall out. For me, it's really very simple: If Warner defies precedent as a quasi HD-DVD supporter as I view them to this day and goes all Blu, then it truly is a shocker of a lifetime and for my money, essentially ends the format war on the spot. There's no way HD-DVD will survive with only Paramount and suspect Universal support. On the other hand, Stringer's "stalemate" comments become gospel fact if Warner abandons what I feel has been a pretense and returns to their original status as a full HD-DVD supporter. And that point, it becomes a Microsoft victory all the way because the HDM market will be hoplessly split with no clear end in sight. CES 2008 will be one for the books. I think we've all known that for a while.

12-07-2007, 04:10 PM	#223
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Oops. My bad. You are right. And not a many companies would be willing to give 1 million. But still with 170+ companies for support I am sure they can beat or at least match anything the HD DVD camp throws at them.

12-07-2007, 04:12 PM	#226
Go Blu Special Member Member since:Feb 2007	I love the "UNI" hint!

12-07-2007, 04:18 PM	#231
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	That's a good point about Universal really... but they still have one last shot don't they.. if they at least go Neutral now, that semi-effectively ends the war as well, they steal WB's thunder and get to be the heroes (perhaps by announcing Heroes on Blu? lol)... and possibly can get concessions out of the BDA for doing so. Win-Win-Win situation.

12-07-2007, 04:18 PM	#233
Nooff Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007	Probably also one of the reasons why Uni is mostly caughing up catalog titles, and most importantly, FAR less titles than they promised HD DVD in the first place.

12-07-2007, 04:20 PM	#235
spicynacho Active Member Member since:Nov 2007	We don't want uni to switch too fast. They need some time to do better encodes of their movies for BR, remaster with DTS-MA etc...

12-07-2007, 04:20 PM	#237
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	I just can't rejoice too fast, for my own sanity in case it just doesn't happen. But I think the interview of a Warner exec talking about them dropping T -HD due to retailer pressure (wanting only a given amount of shelf space) made me hope for a rapid resolution instead of dragging this on. In the end, it's all about $$ per square inch of shelf, and in most reported cases I think Blu Ray has spoken... Universal and Paramount are facing the same problem (Universal has strong ties with MS though, but their recent clash with Apple might have made them realize you do not want to totally depend on 1 online provider in the long run I think). How to maximize sales, and please their retailers? Right now, the split can't possibly be good for biz, and we all know that Warner going back to HD DVD would only reinforce the split and possibly stall things.

12-07-2007, 04:21 PM	#240
sj001 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Blu-ray collection:317 DVD collection:17 Trading Score:5	The only thing about Universal that gives me pause is that douchebag Ken Graffeo who sits on the HD-DVD PG board, I'm sure he will resist everything in going neutral or Blu. Hopefully they will can his sorry ass!

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