What is your opinion of the way Sony has handled the marketing of the PS3??

[Proteus]

The only reason the 360 is ahead right now is it's one year head start. Anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves. Seriously.

Looking at _real_ year over year numbers the PS3 consistently outperforms the 360 on sales by about 10% per year. Considering an even start that would put the PS3 at least 10% over the 360 and this doesn't even take into consideration the perception changes that would have been in place.

No, the greatest mistake Sony made was not getting it together in time to release with the 360 and go head to head since day one. Though likely impossible, it would have made this a lot easier discussion to have in favor of the PS3.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Proteus

The only reason the 360 is ahead right now is it's one year head start. Anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves. Seriously.

Looking at _real_ year over year numbers the PS3 consistently outperforms the 360 on sales by about 10% per year. Considering an even start that would put the PS3 at least 10% over the 360 and this doesn't even take into consideration the perception changes that would have been in place.

No, the greatest mistake Sony made was not getting it together in time to release with the 360 and go head to head since day one. Though likely impossible, it would have made this a lot easier discussion to have in favor of the PS3.

This. Mofo'ing this!

People are comparing the PS3s second full year (2008) to the X360s third full year. In terms of console sales, years 3 and 4 have always been the peak (mostly 3) while 1-2 is growth, 5-7 is decline and 8-10 is death. The gaming press and mainstream media have been comparing peak 360 sales to PS3 sales in growth phase.

Next year it will be a different story, with a price cut in Q2/3 and hardware revisions in Q4 I believe PS3 can sell 13-17m in the calendar year and 15-18m in Sony's FYE March 31st 2010. While MS have already stated themselves that they expect 360 sales to be the same or worse.

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

This. Mofo'ing this!

People are comparing the PS3s second full year (2008) to the X360s third full year. In terms of console sales, years 3 and 4 have always been the peak (mostly 3) while 1-2 is growth, 5-7 is decline and 8-10 is death. The gaming press and mainstream media have been comparing peak 360 sales to PS3 sales in growth phase.

Next year it will be a different story, with a price cut in Q2/3 and hardware revisions in Q4 I believe PS3 can sell 13-17m in the calendar year and 15-18m in Sony's FYE March 31st 2010. While MS have already stated themselves that they expect 360 sales to be the same or worse.

Doesn't that mean hardware sales comparisions are fundamentally flawed then? Shouldn't they compare current PS3 sales to LAST YEARS 360 sales?

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by mikejet

Doesn't that mean hardware sales comparisions are fundamentally flawed then? Shouldn't they compare current PS3 sales to LAST YEARS 360 sales?

Well, yes.

Gaming media won't do that as it would mean they can't be negative about the PS3.

[saprano]

Max what does sony think about all this ps3 hate in the media? do they just sit back and laugh and say *you just wait and see*

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by saprano

Max what does sony think about all this ps3 hate in the media? do they just sit back and laugh and say *you just wait and see*

Doesn't bother them. I think everyone at SCE is so focussed on making the PS3 the best device they possibly can, once they do this the media whining will stop and they know it.

Some sites do bring up legitimate concerns, but when it comes down to it, even the harshest critics have been silenced by the games and we are barely into year 3 for the damn thing...

[Volume11]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Doesn't bother them. I think everyone at SCE is so focussed on making the PS3 the best device they possibly can, once they do this the media whining will stop and they know it.

Some sites do bring up legitimate concerns, but when it comes down to it, even the harshest critics have been silenced by the games and we are barely into year 3 for the damn thing...

It should bother them. The fact it doesn't and that you are defending them is really the problem here because the system is great and some of the newer games are definite must buys.

Unfortunately, no one outside of the hardcore gaming crowd knows this...

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by Proteus

The only reason the 360 is ahead right now is it's one year head start. Anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves. Seriously.

When I first read that I thought you said this..

"Anyone who thinks differently is folding themselves.."

In reference to folding@home which is actually a nice pun if you think about it.
Anyway cheers.

[Volume11]

I'm not even sure where to respond. I could do without the name calling and personal attacks, though. I love my PS3 and I sold my 360 last summer because I was sick of the RROD. Im not knocking the machine at all, I love it.

But, I forgot what site I was on...thank you all for reminding me.

I would encourage more absurd excuses and revisionist history lessons on Sony as they are quite entertaining.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by Volume11

I'm not even sure where to respond. I could do without the name calling and personal attacks, though. I love my PS3 and I sold my 360 last summer because I was sick of the RROD. Im not knocking the machine at all, I love it.

But, I forgot what site I was on...thank you all for reminding me.

I would encourage more absurd excuses and revisionist history lessons on Sony as they are quite entertaining.

Point out to me a single place where "Names were called" or you've been "personally attacked".

I repeat, you are excellent at seeing exactly what you want to see.