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Interdimensional · 04-04-2022, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by T. Warren Scollan

I wonder if Ignite Films is going to turn out to be the unknown distributor for "Robot Monster" that we've all been speculating about???

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Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Sounds like a "No", if they are the "true" copyright owner of Invaders from Mars. I doubt Wade Williams is making any deals with them.

On the other hand, if Robot Monster is being released without the involvement of Wade Williams III, they might be an ideal distributor. Presumably they will have a good legal representation.

Whatever the case, given the genre, subject matter and plot elements, the two films make for an interesting comparison, and will certainly appeal to much the same audience.

BleedOrange11 · 04-04-2022, 05:38 AM

I'm pretty sure Wade Williams owns the copyright, as well as the OCNs, for Robot Monster. My understanding is that it cannot be released without his involvement.

noirjunkie · 04-04-2022, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

So I, the Jury has a 3D DCP now? That's great news! Let's get it on a disc.

This is definitely a pleasant surprise to discover, and it gives me a marginal amount of hope that we might actually see it arrive on disc.

T. Warren Scollan · 04-04-2022, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by noirjunkie

This is definitely a pleasant surprise to discover, and it gives me a marginal amount of hope that we might actually see it arrive on disc.

I will add to that hope the fact that the guy who pulled the underhanded way of sneaking the rights out from under 3dFA has since been terminated!

revgen · 04-06-2022, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

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Originally Posted by dvdmrp

Kino,

Very excited about this.
3 questions,

1. if I remember you said scorpion/code red we’re not included on this deal?

2. Any 3d titles in this new deal?

3. Any titles that were previously not cleared that were now available?

Very excited for this deal. Love a lot of stuff from the MGM catalog. You guys are awesome!

1. Yes, no code red/scorpion co-releases this time around
2. Yes, one.
3. Yes, one.

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Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

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Originally Posted by dvdmrp

The MGM owned 3D titles that have not yet been released are

Bwana Devil 1952
Southwest Passage (what remains of it)

I, The Jury (1953) not sure they own it as Bob previously said that it had a different rights owner.

Starchaser Legend of Orion ( can't be this one as they said no animation)

I doubt they would re-release Amityville 3d again...but who knows.

MGM does not own I, the Jury.

All the needed elements for both eyes are available for Southwest Passage.

So there's another 3-D film licensed from MGM for this new deal. It's probably Bwana Devil or Southwest Passage.

BleedOrange11 · 04-06-2022, 09:55 PM

Wait a minute, Southwest Passage is not partially lost in 3D anymore? "All the needed elements for both eyes are available"? Where did this come from? When?

Robert Furmanek · 04-06-2022, 10:02 PM

I’ve been saving that little nugget of amazing news but yes, the missing reels were found a couple of years ago in the UK. The complete left and right sides exist and it has not been seen anywhere in 3-D since a few scattered playdates in 1954.

BleedOrange11 · 04-06-2022, 10:07 PM

Wow! Great news

Robert Furmanek · 04-06-2022, 10:11 PM

Agreed 100%. The trick now is whether or not we will have an opportunity to restore it. Westerns traditionally perform poorly and that’s why I was pushing so hard for decent sales on WINGS OF THE HAWK and TAZA, SON OF COCHISE.

Interdimensional · 04-06-2022, 10:17 PM

That's really tremendous news!

Even if it's from some beat-up or other source, and image quality isn't quite on the level of what can be pulled from the negative, I'm thrilled. Absolutely thrilled.

I very much hope Kino can secure this for you to work on at some point going forward. I don't suppose it's been seen in 3-D since the original, presumably very limited release.

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Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

Agreed 100%. The trick now is whether or not we will have an opportunity to restore it. Westerns traditionally perform poorly and that’s why I was pushing so hard for decent sales on WINGS OF THE HAWK and TAZA, SON OF COCHISE.

I bought 2 copies of both titles! Hope that helps. .. Wish I'd had that policy when they were doing Paramount titles like Those Redheads and Sangaree, it would've really paid off.

Robert Furmanek · 04-06-2022, 10:22 PM

Other than some slight color fade which we can correct digitally, the elements that were located of the missing reels are in fantastic condition!

BleedOrange11 · 04-06-2022, 10:25 PM

Is there a sales goal that the other westerns have to meet for Southwest Passage to be considered?

BleedOrange11 · 04-06-2022, 10:30 PM

Also, it seems like there is this weird push for Arch Oboler titles all of a sudden. Seems like we may get The Bubble roadshow, Domo Arigato, and Bwana Devil, plus some relevant special feature material, all in a relatively short time frame. I hope so, anyway. Might as well make it all come in one box from Kino.

Interdimensional · 04-06-2022, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Also, it seems like there is this weird push for Arch Oboler titles all of a sudden. Seems like we may get The Bubble roadshow, Domo Arigato, and Bwana Devil, plus some relevant special feature material, all in a relatively short time frame. I hope so, anyway. Might as well make it all come in one box from Kino.

Not sure if they can do that for films that belong to different rights holders. But I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if that were the case.

If not, I hope we get Bwana Devil first.

... it has an anniversary coming up.

Although other than The Bubble, I don't know that any of these have been confirmed exactly.

WaverBoy · 04-06-2022, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

Agreed 100%. The trick now is whether or not we will have an opportunity to restore it. Westerns traditionally perform poorly and that’s why I was pushing so hard for decent sales on WINGS OF THE HAWK and TAZA, SON OF COCHISE.

I have both of those goodies and will preorder any and all vintage 3D films going forward. We gotta keep the momentum going!

Interdimensional · 04-06-2022, 11:04 PM

Definitely. It's probably now or never with a lot of these titles.

BleedOrange11 · 04-06-2022, 11:19 PM

I doubt it all comes in one box, but the stars seem to be aligning. The Bubble Roadshow has been confirmed for a while. There was that image that looked like a test scan of Domo Arigato a couple months ago, and now Kino licensing an MGM title that's probably not Southwest Passage, plus the discovery of Colonel Berneir's 1951 test footage short, plus Mike Ballew diving so deep into Arch Oboler research that he feels like he knows the guy. That forum guy "Oboler" should be real happy, real soon.

Todd3D · 04-06-2022, 11:22 PM

I'd be happy with either Southwest Passage or Bwana Devil, but if I was going to pick just one, it would be Southwest Passage since a) it's a better movie and b) I've never seen it in 3D. Now, of course, if BOTH came out, then I'd be delighted.

swervin · 04-07-2022, 12:02 AM

Well we all read what Robert wrote. Westerns are not money makers. They can't restore these movies to resale if they don't make money. I'm sure they all like to eat just like the rest of us. I want to own every single one of these Golden Age 3D films but it's starting to sound like Southwest Passage would be way down on the list of restorations.

jtchance · 04-07-2022, 01:14 AM

I bought two copies each of TAZA SON OF COCHISE & WINGS OF THE HAWK. If SOUTHWEST PASSAGE got a release I would do the same thing.

04-06-2022, 09:55 PM	#3846
BleedOrange11 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 44 Trading Score:4	Wait a minute, Southwest Passage is not partially lost in 3D anymore? "All the needed elements for both eyes are available"? Where did this come from? When? Last edited by BleedOrange11; 04-06-2022 at 10:01 PM.

04-06-2022, 10:02 PM	#3847
Robert Furmanek Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012	I’ve been saving that little nugget of amazing news but yes, the missing reels were found a couple of years ago in the UK. The complete left and right sides exist and it has not been seen anywhere in 3-D since a few scattered playdates in 1954. Last edited by Robert Furmanek; 04-06-2022 at 10:09 PM.

04-06-2022, 10:30 PM	#3853
BleedOrange11 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 44 Trading Score:4	Also, it seems like there is this weird push for Arch Oboler titles all of a sudden. Seems like we may get The Bubble roadshow, Domo Arigato, and Bwana Devil, plus some relevant special feature material, all in a relatively short time frame. I hope so, anyway. Might as well make it all come in one box from Kino. Last edited by BleedOrange11; 04-06-2022 at 10:36 PM.

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04-04-2022, 05:38 AM	#3842
BleedOrange11 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 44 Trading Score:4	I'm pretty sure Wade Williams owns the copyright, as well as the OCNs, for Robot Monster. My understanding is that it cannot be released without his involvement.

04-06-2022, 10:07 PM	#3848
BleedOrange11 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 44 Trading Score:4	Wow! Great news

04-06-2022, 10:11 PM	#3849
Robert Furmanek Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012	Agreed 100%. The trick now is whether or not we will have an opportunity to restore it. Westerns traditionally perform poorly and that’s why I was pushing so hard for decent sales on WINGS OF THE HAWK and TAZA, SON OF COCHISE.

04-06-2022, 10:22 PM	#3851
Robert Furmanek Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012	Other than some slight color fade which we can correct digitally, the elements that were located of the missing reels are in fantastic condition!

04-06-2022, 10:25 PM	#3852
BleedOrange11 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 44 Trading Score:4	Is there a sales goal that the other westerns have to meet for Southwest Passage to be considered?

04-06-2022, 11:04 PM	#3856
Interdimensional Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2014	Definitely. It's probably now or never with a lot of these titles.

04-06-2022, 11:19 PM	#3857
BleedOrange11 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 44 Trading Score:4	I doubt it all comes in one box, but the stars seem to be aligning. The Bubble Roadshow has been confirmed for a while. There was that image that looked like a test scan of Domo Arigato a couple months ago, and now Kino licensing an MGM title that's probably not Southwest Passage, plus the discovery of Colonel Berneir's 1951 test footage short, plus Mike Ballew diving so deep into Arch Oboler research that he feels like he knows the guy. That forum guy "Oboler" should be real happy, real soon.

04-06-2022, 11:22 PM	#3858
Todd3D Senior Member Member since:Jun 2016	I'd be happy with either Southwest Passage or Bwana Devil, but if I was going to pick just one, it would be Southwest Passage since a) it's a better movie and b) I've never seen it in 3D. Now, of course, if BOTH came out, then I'd be delighted.

04-07-2022, 12:02 AM	#3859
swervin Expert Member Member since:Oct 2012 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:570 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:1	Well we all read what Robert wrote. Westerns are not money makers. They can't restore these movies to resale if they don't make money. I'm sure they all like to eat just like the rest of us. I want to own every single one of these Golden Age 3D films but it's starting to sound like Southwest Passage would be way down on the list of restorations.

04-07-2022, 01:14 AM	#3860
jtchance Special Member Member since:May 2011 Location:Connecticut Blu-ray collection:283	I bought two copies each of TAZA SON OF COCHISE & WINGS OF THE HAWK. If SOUTHWEST PASSAGE got a release I would do the same thing.

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