Confess, Fletch (2022) - April 4th, 2023

[Kakihara]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Way to keep an open mind there.

I enjoy the Chevy Fletch films, and I also enjoyed this too. The only significant difference is that this doesn't have the goofy characters that Fletch affects while wearing his disguises.

So sue me?

No offense to those who liked this iteration. That's just how I feel.

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by Kakihara

So sue me?

No offense to those who liked this iteration. That's just how I feel.

Felt the same. Long haul flights make a good place to watch these ones I think will be garbage. Got a chance to see it and found it was done really well and want even more of the John Hamm versions.

[Kakihara]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

Felt the same. Long haul flights make a good place to watch these ones I think will be garbage. Got a chance to see it and found it was done really well and want even more of the John Hamm versions.

I'll probably get around to it eventually. I'm just usually a curmudgeon about Hollywood using material that had already been covered to much acclaim. It's good to see that people enjoyed this new iteration.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by Kakihara

I'll probably get around to it eventually. I'm just usually a curmudgeon about Hollywood using material that had already been covered to much acclaim. It's good to see that people enjoyed this new iteration.

I wouldn't exactly say the Chase films were much acclaimed, particularly the second one.

[Region_unlocked]

In hindsight it's very odd that they went with an original story for the sequel to the original "Fletch". There were like 6 Fletch novels out by the time the first movie came out, they had plenty to work with. It'd be one thing if the movie they came up with was any good, but have y'all seen "Fletch Lives" lately? It's a mess. Cleavon Little is good in it, but it really fails to live up to the first. They might've gotten past the 2nd movie with Chevy if they stayed faithful to the source material. Thankfully it seems like that's what they're doing with this new Jon Hamm interpretation, it's a lot more back on track in that sense. I really hope this version continues in some way despite the pretty atrocious box office returns.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by Region_unlocked

In hindsight it's very odd that they went with an original story for the sequel to the original "Fletch". There were like 6 Fletch novels out by the time the first movie came out, they had plenty to work with. It'd be one thing if the movie they came up with was any good, but have y'all seen "Fletch Lives" lately? It's a mess. Cleavon Little is good in it, but it really fails to live up to the first. They might've gotten past the 2nd movie with Chevy if they stayed faithful to the source material. Thankfully it seems like that's what they're doing with this new Jon Hamm interpretation, it's a lot more back on track in that sense. I really hope this version continues in some way despite the pretty atrocious box office returns.

I love Fletch Lives. It's one of my all time favourite comedies. I fully admit though that it's probably nostalgia driven. Objectively looking at it, I can see why it didn't do all that well critically or commercially.

That being said, the Hamm film is generally a much better representation of McDonald's character. The fact it didn't do well is disappointing, but it didn't seem like it was given all that much of a push by the studio. It didn't play theatrically where I live even though I would have definitely gone to see it on the big screen, and it's only now trickling out on disc. I guess that's just the way things are now when it comes to non-tentpole films.

I really do hope there's a way to overcome that, because I also would really like to see the series continue.

[BrandonJF]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

I love Fletch Lives. It's one of my all time favourite comedies. I fully admit though that it's probably nostalgia driven. Objectively looking at it, I can see why it didn't do all that well critically or commercially.

That being said, the Hamm film is generally a much better representation of McDonald's character. The fact it didn't do well is disappointing, but it didn't seem like it was given all that much of a push by the studio. It didn't play theatrically where I live even though I would have definitely gone to see it on the big screen, and it's only now trickling out on disc. I guess that's just the way things are now when it comes to non-tentpole films.

I really do hope there's a way to overcome that, because I also would really like to see the series continue.

I love "Fletch Lives", too, and I don't think it's nostalgia. I remember being a bit lukewarm on it originally. I know I always liked it, but didn't hold it in THAT high of regard. When I watched it upon it's Blu-Ray release, I liked it way more than I remembered... or my memory was just spotty in the first place. Some of the bits in "Fletch Lives" are just as good (some maybe better) than the first movie.

For much of "Confess, Fletch", I loved it (well, except for the score. I can see why they wouldn't go with the original Faltermeyer themes, but did they have to go as far away from that as possible?). But, I didn't think the resolution to the mystery was anything great. Hamm was great and I'd like to see more - I just don't know how that happens, but, then again, I guess I don't know how well it did perform. That theatrical release was so limited that it was basically a straight-to-VOD release. Could it have made a profit through VOD and eventually getting sold to streaming services/premium channels? It had a 20M budget (with Hamm putting 60% of his pay back into it), so I guess it's possible.

[buck135]

Originally Posted by BrandonJF

Some of the bits in "Fletch Lives" are just as good (some maybe better) than the first movie.

I couldn't agree more. Fletch Lives is not a good film, but I will put the blu-ray on from time to time because it has some truly hysterical moments.

I loved the subtle nods to the original film in Confess, Fletch. I would have loved it if the original Faltermeyer score was incorporated into the soundtrack as well.

[sb5]

Originally Posted by Region_unlocked

In hindsight it's very odd that they went with an original story for the sequel to the original "Fletch". There were like 6 Fletch novels out by the time the first movie came out, they had plenty to work with. It'd be one thing if the movie they came up with was any good, but have y'all seen "Fletch Lives" lately? It's a mess. Cleavon Little is good in it, but it really fails to live up to the first. They might've gotten past the 2nd movie with Chevy if they stayed faithful to the source material. Thankfully it seems like that's what they're doing with this new Jon Hamm interpretation, it's a lot more back on track in that sense. I really hope this version continues in some way despite the pretty atrocious box office returns.

Andrew Bergman, the screenwriter of the first Fletch movie, wrote a screenplay that adapted “Fletch and the Man Who” to follow up the first Chase movie, but it was rejected.

[Region_unlocked]

Originally Posted by sb5

Andrew Bergman, the screenwriter of the first Fletch movie, wrote a screenplay that adapted “Fletch and the Man Who” to follow up the first Chase movie, but it was rejected.

What could've been...

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Kakihara

I'll probably get around to it eventually. I'm just usually a curmudgeon about Hollywood using material that had already been covered to much acclaim. It's good to see that people enjoyed this new iteration.

You should get rid of those remakes you own then, like Carpenter's The Thing, Scarface, Coppola's Dracula, all of which "used material that had already been covered to much acclaim."

[Kakihara]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

You should get rid of those remakes you own then, like Carpenter's The Thing, Scarface, Coppola's Dracula, all of which "used material that had already been covered to much acclaim."

Ever heard of "Exception not the rule"?

Also note that I used the word "USUALLY" not always.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Kakihara

Ever heard of "Exception not the rule"?

Also note that I used the word "USUALLY" not always.

Sure.

Complain and judge for no reason except when it "fits" your agenda, then there's an excuse. It's almost like, since you make many exceptions to your "rule," you should watch before blankly judging with no knowledge of what you're actually complaining about.

[Kakihara]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Sure.

Complain and judge for no reason except when it "fits" your agenda, then there's an excuse. It's almost like, since you make many exceptions to your "rule," you should watch before blankly judging with no knowledge of what you're actually complaining about.

"USUALLY" is a word that exists.

I can say you have an agenda to ignore that keyword to suit your narrative to be a jerk here, which you usually are. Never mind the fact that I followed up with my openness to eventually watching the movie.