Killers of the Flower Moon Censored in Australia

[CelestialAgent]

I don’t support censorship, but missing one of the biggest films of the year by a master of the craft, a streaming film granted a wide theatrical release that’s designed for the big screen, over 3 seconds, feels like an overreaction - especially when it’s just the studio seeking a lower age rating than over the content.

[Rick Grimes]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

I don’t support censorship, but missing one of the biggest films of the year by a master of the craft, a streaming film granted a wide theatrical release that’s designed for the big screen, over 3 seconds, feels like an overreaction - especially when it’s just the studio seeking a lower age rating than over the content.

My boycott is based on principle, so, it is a sacrifice. I just know I won’t be able to enjoy the movie, as the censorship issue will always be in the back of my mind.
If it doesn’t get a 4K/BD release, I will source a bootleg Blu-Ray. I have a bad feeling the stream, in Australia, will be the cut version.

Although, I hope that Scorsese, who is a great believer in the preservation of film, has something organised with Criterion to get a physical release. I’m sure if Scorsese knew about the censorship he would be pissed.

Originally Posted by Alister_M

i know in the case of Bumblebee they just ported the pre-cut UK version. If they'd cut it themselves in a different way, there might have actually been an uncut local 4K release due to the added expense of authoring a whole new disc.

Kilers of the Flower Moon appears to be uncut with the M rating in NZ btw, it was given that cert on the 7th of September.

More power to NZ.

It seems that Australia is the only region to suffer from this bullshit censorship. And all to just get a better classification, on a movie meant for adults anyway. It’s fracking ridiculous.

[shireguy]

Originally Posted by Rick Grimes

My boycott is based on principle, so, it is a sacrifice. I just know I won’t be able to enjoy the movie, as the censorship issue will always be in the back of my mind.

but but but ... you wont 'know' where those 3 seconds have gone from

Go see it - otherwise you may not experience it on a large screen

[Hadaka_Korosu]

But imagine Alien was censored - specifically the chest bursting scene.

Imagine just a few seconds was censored from that to obscure its impact - what would be one of the most horrifying and iconic moments in cinema history. Imagine seeing that when it was first released but not realising you were actually watching a censored version of that scene. It could drastically alter your perception/experience of the film because that moment could've been flattened entirely with even just a few seconds cut from it. Others around the world would've gotten to experience it in its original uncensored form but you would've been robbed of that experience.

Don't forget 3 seconds is quite a lot of frames in film, around 72 frames.

I dont know. I kind of get what you're saying but also I don't want to be treated like a child and told which version of the film is suitable for me while other adult audiences get to experience it uncensored.

I'm still tempted to see it in cinemas purely because it's a new Scorsese film and any frames that he's responsible for (even though we'll be missing some now) are worth seeing on a big screen. But also, I want to vote with my money and I kind of want to vote against censorship by not purshasing a ticket. I'm definitely torn. Maybe I'll wait until I have enough points to score a free ticket or something. Or maybe I'll just wait to see if Apple TV+ have it uncensored.

[Aunt Peg]

Originally Posted by Hadaka_Korosu

But imagine Alien was censored - specifically the chest bursting scene.

Imagine just a few seconds was censored from that to obscure its impact - what would be one of the most horrifying and iconic moments in cinema history. Imagine seeing that when it was first released but not realising you were actually watching a censored version of that scene. It could drastically alter your perception/experience of the film because that moment could've been flattened entirely with even just a few seconds cut from it. Others around the world would've gotten to experience it in its original uncensored form but you would've been robbed of that experience.

Don't forget 3 seconds is quite a lot of frames in film, around 72 frames.

I dont know. I kind of get what you're saying but also I don't want to be treated like a child and told which version of the film is suitable for me while other adult audiences get to experience it uncensored.

I'm still tempted to see it in cinemas purely because it's a new Scorsese film and any frames that he's responsible for (even though we'll be missing some now) are worth seeing on a big screen. But also, I want to vote with my money and I kind of want to vote against censorship by not purshasing a ticket. I'm definitely torn. Maybe I'll wait until I have enough points to score a free ticket or something. Or maybe I'll just wait to see if Apple TV+ have it uncensored.

I saw Alien when it was first released in cinemas and the chest busting was largely missing. it began with John Hurt feeling strange and then the rest of case are holding him down on the table and then some small red thing zipping away.

A few months later I purchased a book in relation to Alien which was basically like a comic book but was made up stills from Alien instead of drawings.

I noticed that the chest busting in the book was way way more graphic that what I had seen.

In 1982 when video shops started to emerge I rented Alien to watch it again. To my surprise the chest busting seen was there is all its glory. Back then video covers had no censorship logos on them. That came in a year or two later - can't remember exactly. I think Fox just transferred the full cut of the film and never resubmitted the film at that stage. I'd wager that Alien didn't go back in for reclassification to quite sometime later.

[Rick Grimes]

Very interesting to note that Alien was censored in Australian for it’s theatrical run.
Even Star Wars was censored in Australia, to get an NRC (had to remove one scene or it would have got an M rating). But the VHS release in 1982 was PG and uncut.

https://www.refused-classification.c...ci-fi-fantasy/

Forcing Fox to make that cut is real interesting, since Raiders of the Lost Ark, 4 years later, has the trap with the knife in the head, arrows in the back guy and the infamous head exploding/head melting scenes… And it was NRC (I recall the movie poster and seeing it at the Oxley Drive-In, and then seeing the NRC rating on the VHS cover years later).

As a comparison to how the ACB can make that distinction between M and MA15+, I just watched Gladiator today. It has an M rating and there’s a bifurcation, decapitations and plenty other gore, yet it passes with an M rating; yet 23 years later the tools at the ACB take an issue with 3 seconds of gore in KOTFM. I swear they do this shit to justify their increasingly irrelevant jobs.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by Rick Grimes

I swear they do this shit to justify their increasingly irrelevant jobs.

That likely applies to many regulatory entities.