Crisp sound - Blu-ray Forum

aramis109 · 07-31-2009, 02:30 PM

The problem is in defining something that is by nature difficult to assign a static interpretation to. Honestly, as a whole, all the "tight, detailed, crisp, fluid, etc" terms as a whole crack me up. I've tried to describe my speakers to people and frequently find myself using "open" and "airy" but realistically does that describe them?

I think part of my amusement in the use of these terms stems from things like a recent audiophile catalog I got from Mapleshade. No matter how minor the tweak, everything was described as an unbelievable improvement. These terms are so general that they can't accurately pin down a sound. If people call something "crisp" as a positive, then hey knock yourselves out.

...excuse me I'm going to go lisen to my open and airy speakers now.

Johnny Vinyl · 07-31-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

The problem is in defining something that is by nature difficult to assign a static interpretation to. Honestly, as a whole, all the "tight, detailed, crisp, fluid, etc" terms as a whole crack me up. I've tried to describe my speakers to people and frequently find myself using "open" and "airy" but realistically does that describe them?

I think part of my amusement in the use of these terms stems from things like a recent audiophile catalog I got from Mapleshade. No matter how minor the tweak, everything was described as an unbelievable improvement. These terms are so general that they can't accurately pin down a sound. If people call something "crisp" as a positive, then hey knock yourselves out.

...excuse me I'm going to go lisen to my open and airy speakers now.

Very well said indeed aramis! Remember also, that sometimes it depends on the recording. The source material most definately plays a factor in all of this.

John

StimpsonJCat · 07-31-2009, 02:45 PM

I describe my sound as obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant.

Steve · 07-31-2009, 02:46 PM

I think Aramis summed it up nicely. However, having said that, I've always thought of "crisp" to mean "precise" or "deatiled".

prerich · 07-31-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by John72953

Very well said indeed aramis! Remember also, that sometimes it depends on the recording. The source material most definately plays a factor in all of this.

John

Oh yes!!!! A good speaker can make a bad recording sound real bad!!!! This discussion is getting interesting indeed!

rded · 07-31-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by prerich

Oh yes!!!! A good speaker can make a bad recording sound real bad!!!! This discussion is getting interesting indeed!

Sheesh!!! My speakers are brutally revealing that I find myself listening to different genres and less rock/metal/alternative because I can only pick out a handful of rock recordings I have that sound good.

Johnny Vinyl · 07-31-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rded

Sheesh!!! My speakers are brutally revealing that I find myself listening to different genres and less rock/metal/alternative because I can only pick out a handful of rock recordings I have that sound good.

Rhett...please share some of those with us.....may not have them, which will require a trip to my vinyl dealer.

John

rded · 07-31-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by John72953

Rhett...please share some of those with us.....may not have them, which will require a trip to my vinyl dealer.

John

John I'll PM you when I get home. But check Jason's thread out I actually mentioned quite a few of them https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=103113&page=2

aramis109 · 07-31-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rded

Sheesh!!! My speakers are brutally revealing that I find myself listening to different genres and less rock/metal/alternative because I can only pick out a handful of rock recordings I have that sound good.

This would make me very sad, as the bulk of my listening is there.

rded · 07-31-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

This would make me very sad, as the bulk of my listening is there.

Its a blessing and a curse. Put in a bad recording and "yuck" that's what my wife says!

jomari · 07-31-2009, 04:12 PM

its been a while folks, but find this as a very interesting, both the topic and the individuals involved here. great discussion! very crisp!

ive rarely attempt to describe how a speaker sounds, due to the simple fact that they are completely subjective in nature. its like describing food - we all have different taste, we all have different preferences, all have different schools of thought we have been brought up with.

how do you know how the speaker 'really sounds'? how much auditioning have we done to determine how 'tight the midrange' is, or how 'deep' the bass sounds?

ive tended to consider my notes a little bit more critical, in regards to a speakers performance, instead of their 'sound' so to speak. ive also considered to describe them instead as a 'warmer', 'natural' sound instead...

naturephoto1 · 07-31-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rded

Its a blessing and a curse. Put in a bad recording and "yuck" that's what my wife says!

Rhett,

It is possible that you are picking up not only the faults in the recording (which can be bad and many), but also the faults of the electronic components and even the wiring. Not everything "plays" well together.

Rich

Big Daddy · 07-31-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by John72953

Here is the definition of CRISP in audiophile terms:

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Crisp: In reproduced sound: sharply focused and detailed, sometimes excessively so because of a peak in the mid-treble region.

John

PS~ See this Glossary of Audio Terms thread for more definitions

John,

I have to disagree with you. According to SourceForge.net, this is the exact meaning of crispy.

CRISPY = Communication per Remote Invocation for different kinds of Services via ProxYs.

This is a picture of Crispy.

rded · 07-31-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

John,

I have to disagree with you. According to SourceForge.net, this is the exact meaning of crispy.

CRISPY = Communication per Remote Invocation for different kinds of Services via ProxYs.

I am totally lost

CasualKiller · 07-31-2009, 09:48 PM

I take it to mean detailed in the high end. A lot of people confuse an excess of treble as being crisp and detailed. The way I think of it is to take the "S" as an example, in the higher freq ranges it would sound as an "S" as in "slopes" not "slopeth" or "slopez".

prerich · 07-31-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

The problem is in defining something that is by nature difficult to assign a static interpretation to. Honestly, as a whole, all the "tight, detailed, crisp, fluid, etc" terms as a whole crack me up. I've tried to describe my speakers to people and frequently find myself using "open" and "airy" but realistically does that describe them?

I think part of my amusement in the use of these terms stems from things like a recent audiophile catalog I got from Mapleshade. No matter how minor the tweak, everything was described as an unbelievable improvement. These terms are so general that they can't accurately pin down a sound. If people call something "crisp" as a positive, then hey knock yourselves out.

...excuse me I'm going to go lisen to my open and airy speakers now.

Excellent comment!!! I like "open and airy" also

HAMP · 07-31-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

Honestly, as a whole, all the "tight, detailed, crisp, fluid, etc" terms as a whole crack me up.

I couldn't agree more, it's just to funny the multiple ways to describe sound

Bright, brilliant: The degree to which reproduced sound has a hard, crisp edge to it.
a crisp edge to it, I don't even know what that means. crisp edge???

Yeha-Noha · 07-31-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

...excuse me I'm going to go listen to my open and airy speakers now.

+1

If I were asked to describe the sound quality of my audio system, that would fit the description quite accurately.

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07-31-2009, 02:30 PM	#1
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	The problem is in defining something that is by nature difficult to assign a static interpretation to. Honestly, as a whole, all the "tight, detailed, crisp, fluid, etc" terms as a whole crack me up. I've tried to describe my speakers to people and frequently find myself using "open" and "airy" but realistically does that describe them? I think part of my amusement in the use of these terms stems from things like a recent audiophile catalog I got from Mapleshade. No matter how minor the tweak, everything was described as an unbelievable improvement. These terms are so general that they can't accurately pin down a sound. If people call something "crisp" as a positive, then hey knock yourselves out. ...excuse me I'm going to go lisen to my open and airy speakers now.

07-31-2009, 02:45 PM	#3
StimpsonJCat Expert Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Texas Home Theater Gallery:5	I describe my sound as obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant.

07-31-2009, 02:46 PM	#4
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	I think Aramis summed it up nicely. However, having said that, I've always thought of "crisp" to mean "precise" or "deatiled".

07-31-2009, 04:12 PM	#11
jomari Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:2	its been a while folks, but find this as a very interesting, both the topic and the individuals involved here. great discussion! very crisp! ive rarely attempt to describe how a speaker sounds, due to the simple fact that they are completely subjective in nature. its like describing food - we all have different taste, we all have different preferences, all have different schools of thought we have been brought up with. how do you know how the speaker 'really sounds'? how much auditioning have we done to determine how 'tight the midrange' is, or how 'deep' the bass sounds? ive tended to consider my notes a little bit more critical, in regards to a speakers performance, instead of their 'sound' so to speak. ive also considered to describe them instead as a 'warmer', 'natural' sound instead...

07-31-2009, 09:48 PM	#15
CasualKiller Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Brooks Alberta Blu-ray collection:54 Trading Score:15	I take it to mean detailed in the high end. A lot of people confuse an excess of treble as being crisp and detailed. The way I think of it is to take the "S" as an example, in the higher freq ranges it would sound as an "S" as in "slopes" not "slopeth" or "slopez".

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