Killers of the Flower Moon (2023)

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by jimcorenson

This will only have italian subtitles its practically useless to people outside Italy. No release in sight elsewhere.

They asked if it was getting a disc release. Nothing beyond that. I posted about the discs that are getting released. If they wanted specific subtitles they didn’t say.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

They asked if it was getting a disc release. Nothing beyond that. I posted about the discs that are getting released. If they wanted specific subtitles they didn’t say.

There's people who won't be happy unless the discs are delivered on a silver platter

[HudsonHawk]

Originally Posted by jeff BD

Goodfellas is one of the greatest movies of all time and Dances with wolves is not… definitely the wrong movie won best picture that year

It's not the superbowl, you don't have to choose with movies. The Oscars are just a collective subjective anyhow. Both movies imo are great and have stood the test of time.

[BluBonnet]

‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Takes Home Best Picture at AARP’s Movies for Grownups Awards

“Killers of the Flower Moon” won best picture at AARP The Magazine’s Movies for Grownups Awards, which spotlights films and TV content that speaks to a 50-plus audience.

“It’s been a good year for shows and movies by and for people over 50,” AARP TV and Film Critic Tim Appelo said in a statement. “Grownup talent and stories are being recognized across the board, and ageism in Hollywood does seem to be gradually eroding, with help from AARP. In 2000, shortly before the Movies for Grownups Awards began, only one of the top ten box office stars was over 50; today, half are.”

Annette Bening took home the best actress prize for “Nyad,” with Colman Domingo winning best actor for “Rustin.” Christopher Nolan won best director for “Oppenheimer,” while Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig won the best screenwriter prize for “Barbie.”

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by 4K fanatic

Guess directors should retire in their prime then put out works not worthy of their calibir. Recall Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino, and to a lesser extent The Departed? Masterpieces of cinema. Such a bad film to go out on.

Silence (2016) is one of the best things Scorsese's ever done, so i'm glad he didn't decide to retire when he reached your arbitrary deadline.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by Fat Phil

Silence (2016) is one of the best things Scorsese's ever done, so i'm glad he didn't decide to retire when he reached your arbitrary deadline.

Let me preface my comments but stating that you, along with everyone else, is entitled to your opinion. But I am genuinely curious about your statement that it's one of his best films, because in my opinion it heralded the beginning of a directorial decline by Scorsese that accelerated with The Irishman and has reached a nadir with Killers of The Flower Moon, a film which I would rank at or near the very bottom of his filmography.

As a Catholic who received a Jesuit education, and whose children received the same, not only am I very familiar with the source material, I also have an understanding of the themes and related philosophy.

Just an opinion, but film Silence fails to attain the greatness of the source material by elevating cinematic grandstanding over the story, something that Scorsese avoided with The Age of Innocence, which in my opinion is a perfect compliment to the source, different to reflect the medium, and in certain aspects superior to the source thanks to the medium.

When you say it stands with his best, what films are those, and which films is it superior to?

It's much like KOTFM. Masterpiece? Compared to what?

[50strat54]

Originally Posted by cgpublic

Let me preface my comments but stating that you, along with everyone else, is entitled to your opinion. But I am genuinely curious about your statement that it's one of his best films, because in my opinion it heralded the beginning of a directorial decline by Scorsese that accelerated with The Irishman and has reached a nadir with Killers of The Flower Moon, a film which I would rank at or near the very bottom of his filmography.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

All three a chore to watch.

[Joeker]

Im about an hour in and not digging it. Does it get better?

[Stanis]

The Irishman is the perfect denouement from his other previous DeNiro collabs (Goodfellas, Casino, hell even Mean Streets), and is a godd*mned masterpiece (if only not for that terrible cgi spring of youth issue) especially in context with the rest of his filmography. People talk sh*t about late Scorsese but don't mention Wolf of Wall Street? GTFOH, the man is still oozing great cinema out his pores into his later years!

Flowers of the Flower Moon continues his tradition of american crime from unique perspectives. and yes, Silence is great as well (all of his religious films are... Last Temptation, Kundun).

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Based on your subjective opinion.

None of the categories that Dances With Wolves won that year, was it undeserving. Had Goodfellas won those categories instead, it would have also been deserving.

Except whenever any publication makes a “worst best picture winners” list This and Shakespeare in love and Crash are always near the top. Its not just MY subjective opinion. Goodfellas is a top 5 film of the 90s based on every metric u can make. It’s arguably the best but top 5 cant be denied. Wolves is not. Its a good film but nothing transcendent that will ever be on any best of lists.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by jeff BD

Except whenever any publication makes a “worst best picture winners” list This and Shakespeare in love and Crash are always near the top.

No, it's not. It's usually Crash, Shakespeare in Love, The Greatest Show on Earth, and some of the creaky early ones like Cimarron.

Originally Posted by jeff BD

Its not just MY subjective opinion. Goodfellas is a top 5 film of the 90s based on every metric u can make. It’s arguably the best but top 5 cant be denied. Wolves is not. Its a good film but nothing transcendent that will ever be on any best of lists.

It doesn't matter if it's not only your subjective opinion, what you stated is still subjective.

The problem with most of the lists or articles you see online about films winning Best Picture over another is that they are typically biased towards the interests and attitudes of young males, which is why you always see people grousing about how Taxi Driver, Pulp Fiction, Star Wars, Goodfellas or Raiders of the Lost Ark were screwed out of the Best Picture award.

There is nothing about Dances With Wolves that suggests it was an injustice that it won certain Oscars (or any other awards for that matter) over Goodfellas. It doesn't have to be on any "best of" lists other than one that contains the best films released in 1990, which it was.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Joeker

Im about an hour in and not digging it. Does it get better?

You tell us.

[Joeker]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

You tell us.

I’m not going to finish it cause I wasn’t digging it.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

No, it's not. It's usually Crash, Shakespeare in Love, The Greatest Show on Earth, and some of the creaky early ones like Cimarron.



It doesn't matter if it's not only your subjective opinion, what you stated is still subjective.

The problem with most of the lists or articles you see online about films winning Best Picture over another is that they are typically biased towards the interests and attitudes of young males, which is why you always see people grousing about how Taxi Driver, Pulp Fiction, Star Wars, Goodfellas or Raiders of the Lost Ark were screwed out of the Best Picture award.

There is nothing about Dances With Wolves that suggests it was an injustice that it won certain Oscars (or any other awards for that matter) over Goodfellas. It doesn't have to be on any "best of" lists other than one that contains the best films released in 1990, which it was.

Lemme guess Costner deserved the Oscar over Scorsese too..

Has nothing to do with “young males” the fact is the movies you just named either inspired generations of filmmakers or transcended the genre. Dances did neither. Its not a bad film. Its a good one in fact but its no Goodfellas

[slumcat]

Originally Posted by Stanis

The Irishman is the perfect denouement from his other previous DeNiro collabs (Goodfellas, Casino, hell even Mean Streets), and is a godd*mned masterpiece (if only not for that terrible cgi spring of youth issue) especially in context with the rest of his filmography. People talk sh*t about late Scorsese but don't mention Wolf of Wall Street? GTFOH, the man is still oozing great cinema out his pores into his later years!

Flowers of the Flower Moon continues his tradition of american crime from unique perspectives. and yes, Silence is great as well (all of his religious films are... Last Temptation, Kundun).

Hugo is his only film post 2000 that I have wholeheartedly liked. Rest is supremely problematic. Some are even downright dogshit turkeys.

The man is the single most overrated director in the history of cinema.

[spanky87]

Slumcat, I’m curious to know something. At what point in time did you develop a strong dislike of Leonardo DiCaprio (or was it hate at first sight?), and what do you think are his best and worst performances?

[Bugg]

Originally Posted by slumcat

The man is the single most overrated director in the history of cinema.

Nah, that would be David Fincher.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Bugg

Nah, that would be David Fincher.

Christopher Nolan wants to have a word.

[Stanis]

Originally Posted by slumcat

The man is the single most overrated director in the history of cinema.

This is a hilarious statement in a universe where Zack Snyder exists, among others

[slumcat]

Originally Posted by Bugg

Nah, that would be David Fincher.

He's makes the Top 4. The others are Nolan and Tarantino.