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An educated guess is by the year 2026+ both Sony and JVC will introduce new native 8K projectors with no pixel shifting needed (Sony has never used pixel shifting technology on a LCOS projector).
The JVC DLA-NZ900 for only $25,999 can achieve close to 300 nits on a 120-inch screen and offer OLED like deep blacks. Just no Dolby Vision HDR on LCOS projectors, only HDR10+. Dolby Vision HDR is exclusive to DLP projectors. Tone mapping is still needed on projectors. Maybe one day in a few decades 100,000+ lumens projectors would not need to use tone mapping. The following are select quotes from article “The projector can achieve close to 300 nits on a 120-inch 1.0-gain screen, which allows for stunning HDR performance. However, this also underscores the challenge of scale. Of course, at a more conservative 100-nit peak brightness the DLA-NZ900/RS4200 can fill much larger screens while still delivering excellent HDR, thanks to its dynamic tone mapping capabilities.” “The picture quality was so impressive, I couldn’t help but compare it to OLED TVs. The DLA-NZ900/RS4200 offered the same deep, inky blacks that OLED is famous for, but on a much larger scale. This is where JVC excels—bringing that OLED-like visual quality to a screen size TVs can't touch.” “What truly impressed me was how JVC brought OLED-like quality to a size OLED TVs can’t reach. While other, pricier projectors at the show might have been brighter, none matched the visual impact of JVC in a dark space, even projectors costing a lot more.” “If you need a projector that can cut through ambient light or scale to a massive screen, other options exist. But if you're building a home theater and want a truly cinematic experience, JVC remains the top choice. Ultimately, it’s not just about brightness—it’s about picture quality, and JVC nailed it.” https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...st-masterclass Last edited by HDTV1080P; 09-10-2024 at 01:24 AM. |
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The Blu-ray 3D format first launched as a 2K 3D technology back in 2010. The consumer electronics industry should have did a 3D mandate for all flat panel displays and projectors by a certain date. If a 3D mandate was made then it would only cost around $30-$50 to add 3D to each display or projector. Since over 100 million displays and projectors would use a common 3D capable hardware/software solution. The 3D mandate by the consumer electronic industry would allow for the manufactories of displays and projectors to use either active 3D, passive 3D, or no glasses needed 3D technology. If the FCC would have gotten involved with ATSC 3.0 broadcasts, then they could have mandated 3D on all new Televisions with a built in ATSC 3.0 tuner. If the 8K Association would have mandated 3D on 8K displays and projectors then consumers would have either native 8K 3D or 4K 3D. If the Blu-ray Disc Association does release a new 8K Blu-ray format in 2026-2028, hopefully the new 8K optical disc players will have new 3D technology that mandates all new 8K Blu-ray players being able to do 3D at either 8K or 4K quality.
But my point is if 100 million displays and projectors were made with 3D we are talking about a maximum price increase of $30-$50 and even less if the passive glasses are not included and sold separately with each display and projector. Unless something changes, in another 5 to 10 years 3D will be exclusive to IMAX and Dolby Cinema theaters, and other commercial 3D theaters, and 3D will completely disappear from the consumer market. Last edited by HDTV1080P; 09-10-2024 at 11:35 PM. |
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According to the spec sheet JVC improved the 8K pixel shifting technology this year (In the year 2026+ in theory for another $10,000-$30,000+ Sony and JVC might introduce native 8K LCOS projectors with no pixel shifting needed. But might mean a price increase of at least $10,000+ first generation models and then maybe only a $5,000+ increase for second or third generation models). Plus JVC supports 3D.
While the dual DLP projector IMAX and Dolby Cinema projector setup in commercial movie theaters is the best for true 4K quality 3D with Dolby Vision HDR. The most widely used 3D technology in theaters is RealD 3D using a Texas Instruments single 4K DLP projector for true 4K 3D from one projector at 144fps (72fps for each eye). However, some movie theaters a 4K Sony LCOS projector with a RealD 3D lens is used to produce a true 2K resolution with polarized passive glasses. Most likely in the near future around 2026+ Sony may roll out native 8K LCOS projectors that are true 8K resolution for 2D content in the theater and true 4K resolution for 3D content in the theater when a RealD 3D lens adapter is used. Instead of Sony dropping the 3D feature on all new models of consumer 4K LCOS projectors, Sony should have used a high quality RealD 3D lens system for true 2K passive glasses 3D in the home. I wish JVC would work with RealD 3D so that high quality 3D passive glasses can occur from one projector. But who knows a official RealD 3D lens adapter for home LCOS might cost a minimum of $5,000+, which some consumers would be willing to pay. https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...ema-experience Last edited by HDTV1080P; 09-15-2024 at 08:52 PM. |
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I am disappointed that Sound & Vision magazine just sent out their last printed magazine and even their last digital magazine. The October/November 2024 Sound & Vision magazine is the very last issue. Most likely it’s the bad economy with not enough people subscribing to the Sound & Vision magazine which made the company decide to stop publication. Most likely sometime in the year 2025 the Sound & Vision magazine website will be turned off and will no longer be in existence. The companies Stereophile magazine will still be published which is dedicated to stereo systems and surround sound music with no video.
https://www.soundandvision.com/ Over a decade ago the Perfect Vision magazine went out of production and all that remained was the companies absolute sound magazine that is dedicated to stereo systems and surround sound music systems with no video. Sadly, this means that there is now as far as I am aware one remaining subscription based digital delivered magazine dedicated to video technology. Widescreen Review magazine is the last remaining magazine dedicated to the art and science of high-end projectors, Smart TV’s, and other video technologies. https://www.widescreenreview.com/ Yes, there are most likely some free video websites that sometimes offer average reviews and information, however videophiles are seeing the end of high-quality professional print and digital premium subscription-based magazines. Yes, it costs more to have both a high-quality video and audio system and some consumers instead decide to do a high-end stereo or multichannel surround system for music only. It's my understanding for people that are only into music subscription-based magazines like Stereophile and the absolute sound, those magazines are booming with popularity. But even if one is a dedicated audiophile that loves music, it has been my experience that music is much more enjoyable when there is music videos made. Sure, music videos increase the production cost and audio only music on Blu-ray Audio or standard audio CD is cheaper in production cost then say like a new concert or music video on 4K Blu-ray. While I love music, in my free time 90% of the time I prefer watching movies that also has music in it. But the trend in entertainment appears to be less videophiles, with more people becoming audiophiles with music and sometimes increasing their reading with eBooks. But as I have said before it can sometimes take over a week to read a book, where as a 2-hour movie devoted to the book takes less time and also in the movie one gets to see and hear exactly what the author of the book was talking about. So, the movie becomes more realistic than reading a book because of the video and audio experience. When I read every day I mainly read magazines and electronic newsletters online for information. Most my daily local and world news comes from online websites instead of watching news channels. And movies have replaced my book reading since for me movies are more enjoyable. Electronic books are still needed for education purposes for graduating from High School and College. It is just disappointing that the last remaining subscription based digital magazine for videophiles is Widescreen Review since we lost both Perfect Vision magazine over a decade ago and now just recently Sound & Vision magazine is now gone with most likely their website disappearing in 2025. Just not enough people subscribing to these magazines since we appear to be losing videophiles over the many generations. Audiophiles with music is booming with Stereophile and the absolute sound magazine going strong. I hope Widescreen Review magazine which is the last remaining subscription based videophile magazine stays in business. After the Perfect Vision magazine disappeared Widescreen Review magazine is my favorite and last remaining videophile magazine. I will mis Sound & Vision magazine stopping publication, over a decade of enjoyable quotes I made from that publication on the Blu-ray.com website. https://www.widescreenreview.com/ Still in publication https://www.soundandvision.com/ Out of publication as of last issue of October/November 2024. Website will most likely be taken offline in 2025. Last edited by HDTV1080P; 10-06-2024 at 11:45 PM. |
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Sound & Vision magazine use to be a subscription-based magazine that received revenue from both subscriptions and advertisements ran in the magazine. It is 100% true that Sound & Vision magazine back around October 1st sent out their last magazine in print and digital called the October/November 2024 issue, where there was several articles and front cover story that the subscription-based magazine is shutting down (magazine discontinued). This also means the Widescreen Review magazine is the last remaining subscription-based magazine for videophiles. All that is true. However, what was not made clear is what is going to happen to the Sound & Vision website. The good news is the Sound & Vision website will be up and running in 2025+ with no plans on taking the website down. It turns out that the company is dropping all subscription magazine revenue and switching to 100% advertisement revenue on the company's website. What this means, is that even though the Sound & Vision magazine is now gone, the good news is the free Sound & Vision website will remain with updated reviews and other new material. So, the Sound & Vision website will not be shutdown, and only the print and digital magazine were shutdown. So, the Sound & Vision website will be available for free to all readers with updated and new content. But since the Sound and Vision website is free to everyone, this means the revenue is no longer subscription based but 100% advertisement based. Hopefully the Sound & Vision website will remain fair and balanced listing both the negatives and positives of the products they review. There are many free consumer websites that since the revenue comes from 100% advertisements, that some people question the accuracy of the reviews on various websites. The free Sound & Vision website does not have professional reviews with the same level of detail that one gets from the paid subscription-based Widescreen Review magazine, but the good news the Sound & Vision website will be around in 2025+ with updated content and some product reviews. Last edited by HDTV1080P; 11-13-2024 at 09:10 AM. |
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Thanks given by: | GrouchoFan (12-04-2024) |
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"QD-OLED differs from LG’s White OLED (WOLED) because it sticks to pure RGB sub-pixels. WOLED uses an extra white sub-pixel to bump up brightness, but sometimes that can dilute the color accuracy at those peak luminance levels. QD-OLED’s RGB-only approach is linear and preserves color fidelity across the entire range, from pitch-black scenes to searing highlights." "Let’s get into some specifics. As of December 2024, Samsung and Sony remain the main manufacturers spearheading QD-OLED TV offerings in their flagship lines." "For folks who obsess over picture fidelity—and let’s be honest, most premium TV buyers do—QD-OLED is tough to beat. You get the pure, accurate colors of quantum dots married to the inky black levels of OLED, which together create a strikingly realistic, vibrant image." https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...antum-dot-oled |
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Will be able to do 16K resolution and higher frame rates. But 16K displays might be around a decade in the future. The HDMI standard needs to come first, then display companies and A/V receiver companies can design the chipset in electronics that might be released around 10+ years from now. HDMI 2.2 can show up in electronics in a few years, but many of the features like 16K is a decade away in theory."
QUOTE "Notable advancements include a 96Gbps bandwidth to support use cases such as 8K and even 16K, as well as emerging VR technologies." https://www.svconline.com/proav-today/hdmi-2-2-ces-2025 |
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Look at these amazing specs
quotes "24-60 Hz 4K (4096x2160) and/or 4K UHD (3840x2160)" "Christie® Mirage option: 2D up to 120 Hz 4K and 4K 3D up to 120 Hz (48-60 Hz per eye) with third-party active glasses and standard screens" "Christie Mirage Pro option: All features of Mirage, plus 2K at 240-480 Hz or 2K 3D at 120-240 Hz per eye (scales to fill the chip), and Christie View simultaneous multi-content viewer at 240Hz at 2K via four feeds of 24-60 Hz" "All-new color comb 3D solution: with IFH (Intelligent Filter Holder), Sapphire 3D filters and Infitec 3D glasses to enable dual-projector passive 3D on any projection surface (Mirage and Mirage Pro upgrade optional)" "Single-projector 3D: with Mirage or Mirage Pro and third-party active-to-passive filter and glasses (circular or linear) (requires a screen that preserves polarized light)" "Dual-projector 3D: with third-party external passive polarization filters (circular or linear) and a screen that preserves polarized light (Mirage and Mirage Pro upgrade optional)" https://www.christiedigital.com/glob...data-sheet.pdf |
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Good to see JVC go 100% Laser based projectors and no longer making lamp based projectors.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...24&postcount=2 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...24&postcount=3 |
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For several decades the FCC has been making and/or enforcing various mandates. Here is a suggestion for a possible FCC 3D TV mandate for all new television sets sold by a certain date.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...7#post23174997 |
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There still exists no native 4K LCD projector. All so called 4K LCD projectors use pixel shifting with a 2K (1080P) light engine to simulate 4K resolution. Also DLP projectors with native 4K generally run around $200,000+, all the rest of the DLP projectors use 2K light engines with pixel shifting (sometimes quality pixel shifting). A lower cost under $100,000 DLP projector with a native 4K imaging chip without pixel shifting does not exist yet to my knowledge (There was plans for possible a model, but I have not seen it in production). A native 4K DLP projector for $30,000-$60,000+ without any pixel shifting would be very popular for videophiles to own. At this time the Sony and JVC LCOS projectors starting at around $6,500 are the only consumer projectors that use true native 4K imaging chip with no pixel shifting needed to achieve 4K resolution. Perhaps when more 8K projectors are made for LCD and DLP models then we might see native 4K imaging chips with 8K pixel shifting. But until then the norm for LCD and DLP projectors is to have native 2K imaging chips with 4K pixel shifting to simulate 4K resolution quality. Also, Dolby Vision HDR is an exclusive feature on DLP projectors only, LCD projectors and LCOS projectors only have HDR10+. In the ideal world every 4K Blu-ray disc should have both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision HDR (some titles do have both). Even though the 4K Blu-ray format was the first format with HDR10+, many studios only offer HDR10 on their 4K Blu-ray releases. Consumers with projectors are turning to streaming providers since many streaming movies use HDR10+. While 12 bit Dolby Vision HDR is better, many people do not have the equipment to playback Dolby Vision HDR.
Select quotes from article “Not native 4K; spoof that irritable brother-in-law and tell him it is” “Like New Coke and Zima, 3D is no longer supported” “No Dolby Vision” “As UHD Blu-ray becomes harder to find, particularly HDR10+, the easier path is to turn to streaming, where HDR10+ is quite the needle in a haystack.” https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...aser-projector Last edited by HDTV1080P; 06-14-2025 at 06:03 AM. |
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2K light engine DLP with pixel shifting. Supports HLG, IMAX Enhanced, Dolby Vision HDR, and HDR10+. Unknown if Blu-ray 3D is displayed at 144fps triple flash mode.
QUOTES “The Pro 2 is a Digital Light Processing (DLP) platform RGB laser projector designed around the Texas Instruments 0.47 single-chip Digital Mirror Device. It uses Optotune's XPR-20 extended pixel resolution 4-position actuator, which coordinates shifting the DMD and its onboard 1920 x 1080 mirror pixels to display 8.3 million visible source pixels that comprise an incoming UHD signal.” “Supports Dolby Vision, HDR10+, HLG, and IMAX Enhanced.” “3D performance was improved, avoiding a cross-eye issue, and lastly, playback was optimized for 24 fps and 48 fps.” https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...yle-worthwhile |
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