HDTVTEST (Vincent Teoh) Discussion Thread

[GhostMech]

I want the Z95B. But I really want Panasonic to resolve the Dolby Vision issues. Sounds like it's something that could be fixed with a simple firmware update. Just a matter of whether or not they do.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by GhostMech

I want the Z95B. But I really want Panasonic to resolve the Dolby Vision issues. Sounds like it's something that could be fixed with a simple firmware update. Just a matter of whether or not they do.

What issues is they?

[GhostMech]

According to Vincent in his review, it seems to have some posterization issues in menus and a couple scenes of real world content. Says it doesn't show up in HDR10, however.

[I DO BLU]

World’s Fastest OLED Gaming Monitor — And the Prettiest? - YouTube

[stalepie]

Is Your QLED TV Real or Fake? �� - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1oWcHMeeD1E

fake quantum dots?

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[Robert Zohn]

Samsung is including us in their very 1st Allocation/Shipment of the upcoming Flagship Samsung MRN115MR95FXZA 115″ RGB MICRO LED TV.
If all goes as scheduled we'll have one setup in our main A/V Showroom the week of October 5th.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NMjrGmN-ZRY

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Samsung is including us in their very 1st Allocation/Shipment of the upcoming Flagship Samsung MRN115MR95FXZA 115″ RGB MICRO LED TV.
If all goes as scheduled we'll have one setup in our main A/V Showroom the week of October 5th.

Well, that about wraps it up for projectors

[stalepie]

Why Sony Is Betting ��� on RGB LED Over OLED - YouTube

[yougottaguys]

Apologies if this question has already been answered before or if it's a bit off-topic but I thought this would be a good thread to ask.
When people talk about a TVs "image processing" would that also refer to the highest possible quality content being displayed such as a 4K UHD disc or only the upscaling and handling of lower quality/lower resolution content?
Say if I had the current top-tier Samsung, LG, Sony, Panasonic OLED models all lined up (S95F, G5, B8 MK II, Z95B) and put in a 4K UHD disc all being played from a UB9000 with all the TVs set to their most accurate picture preset would there be much difference in how the image was rendered between the four different TVs?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by yougottaguys

Apologies if this question has already been answered before or if it's a bit off-topic but I thought this would be a good thread to ask.
When people talk about a TVs "image processing" would that also refer to the highest possible quality content being displayed such as a 4K UHD disc or only the upscaling and handling of lower quality/lower resolution content?
Say if I had the current top-tier Samsung, LG, Sony, Panasonic OLED models all lined up (S95F, G5, B8 MK II, Z95B) and put in a 4K UHD disc all being played from a UB9000 with all the TVs set to their most accurate picture preset would there be much difference in how the image was rendered between the four different TVs?

It covers everything, yes, as the image still needs to go thru a video processor before it ends up being displayed on the panel. They've all got their own special sauce, their own foibles. Sony do something to the micro-contrast on their sets, it's why single-pixel test patterns don't display properly. That you'd need a single-pixel test pattern to see it would certainly suggest that the differences wouldn't be visible in real-world content if everything were equal, but it's a loaded question as manufacturers don't want everything to be equal. Even if all four were using the exact same panel they'd be tweaking it differently, with different approaches to ABL, ASBL, black floor, peak brightness, full field brightness, everything.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by yougottaguys

Apologies if this question has already been answered before or if it's a bit off-topic but I thought this would be a good thread to ask.
When people talk about a TVs "image processing" would that also refer to the highest possible quality content being displayed such as a 4K UHD disc or only the upscaling and handling of lower quality/lower resolution content?
Say if I had the current top-tier Samsung, LG, Sony, Panasonic OLED models all lined up (S95F, G5, B8 MK II, Z95B) and put in a 4K UHD disc all being played from a UB9000 with all the TVs set to their most accurate picture preset would there be much difference in how the image was rendered between the four different TVs?

They line up the flagships every year. This isi last years blind shootout.

Here's The ���� �� �� ���� as Voted by Experts in A Blind Test - YouTube

[yougottaguys]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

They line up the flagships every year. This isi last years blind shootout.

Here's The ���� �� �� ���� as Voted by Experts in A Blind Test - YouTube

I remember watching that. I was surprised the A95L didn't win with the combination of QD-OLED colour reproduction and Sony image processing but there you go.

[yougottaguys]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It covers everything, yes, as the image still needs to go thru a video processor before it ends up being displayed on the panel. They've all got their own special sauce, their own foibles. Sony do something to the micro-contrast on their sets, it's why single-pixel test patterns don't display properly. That you'd need a single-pixel test pattern to see it would certainly suggest that the differences wouldn't be visible in real-world content if everything were equal, but it's a loaded question as manufacturers don't want everything to be equal. Even if all four were using the exact same panel they'd be tweaking it differently, with different approaches to ABL, ASBL, black floor, peak brightness, full field brightness, everything.

I always thought that was the case but seeing all the reviewers out there only covering upscaling when it came to "image processing" suddenly made me have doubts and not feel 100% sure.

From what I understand all those aspects you mentioned in the last sentence are software based so I think I already know the answer to this question but I'll ask anyway - Something else I've been wondering is if a particular model gets an upgraded panel later on during its manufacturing lifespan could that potentially improve brightness and reduce ABL or would it only be things such as cleaner screen uniformity and superior energy efficiency?

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by yougottaguys

I always thought that was the case but seeing all the reviewers out there only covering upscaling when it came to "image processing" suddenly made me have doubts and not feel 100% sure.

From what I understand all those aspects you mentioned in the last sentence are software based so I think I already know the answer to this question but I'll ask anyway - Something else I've been wondering is if a particular model gets an upgraded panel later on during its manufacturing lifespan could that potentially improve brightness and reduce ABL or would it only be things such as cleaner screen uniformity and superior energy efficiency?

Upscaling is Sony's claim to fame. Upscaling is important because most content available isn't in HDR. With that said, you pay a premium price for the upscaling capabilities of some of Sony's TVs. Competing manufacturers need to improve in that area.

[yougottaguys]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Upscaling is Sony's claim to fame. Upscaling is important because most content available isn't in HDR. With that said, you pay a premium price for the upscaling capabilities of some of Sony's TVs. Competing manufacturers need to improve in that area.

I like that the big display manufacturers each focus on different areas to excel in or put more focus/attention towards. It makes each brand distinguished and have recognisable characteristics.
It would be easier for average buyers but boring for us enthusiasts if every mid-high end TV was fantastic in every single category.
Also I think you meant to say UHD, not HDR.