Forbes: "No Blue Skies For Blu-ray"

[Thomasbeau]

The problem is that some of the upconverted DVD's do look pretty good. For example "Star Wars: Episode 3" looks very good for an upconvert. Yeah, us BD guys can see the difference, but most of your average consumers are probably oblivious to the difference. It's unfortunate but the general public hardly ever knows what is best for them. Like lemmings everyone just goes with the flow.

I do think that most of the THX DVD's upconvert nicely. The majority do look like S**t though.

[SamInNorthCakalakey]

Looks pretty good compared to what?! You have nothing to compare it to, so you can't say "this is good enough" because you know what, that title, on BD is going to be incredible!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Thomasbeau

The problem is that some of the upconverted DVD's do look pretty good. For example "Star Wars: Episode 3" looks very good for an upconvert. Yeah, us BD guys can see the difference, but most of your average consumers are probably oblivious to the difference. It's unfortunate but the general public hardly ever knows what is best for them. Like lemmings everyone just goes with the flow.

I do think that most of the THX DVD's upconvert nicely. The majority do look like S**t though.

[jsteinhauer]

In a year from now, many, many Americans will finally have HDTVs and will be noticing the difference between 480, 720 and 1080. They will not be happy with upconverts.

[Dalese]

Give the retailers a little time to get their act together and behind pushing Blu-ray players as the "need to buy technology".

When the first generation plasmas came out they weren't even 720(i) or (p) in resolution, yet the retailers pushed them hard in their advertisements and in-store staff.

When 720 sets came out, the lower resolution sets were referred as "near HD". When 1080 sets came out "full HD" was used to differentiate them from the 720 sets.

For the past couple years the retailers have been making a big effort to convince everyone that their DVD player (which played DVD's perfectly well) wasn't good enough and that you needed an "upconverting" player.

The next step is the pushing of 1080p sets (because they're better then 1080i) and Blu-ray players and movies because they are better then DVD.

If you think about it, Blu-ray having a name totally different than DVD (unlike HD-DVD) should make this last part that much easier. The new pitch line will be "To get the best home movie experience, you need Blu-ray. Its 1080p picture is better then upconverted DVD".

[k20king]

Originally Posted by Dalese

Give the retailers a little time to get their act together and behind pushing Blu-ray players as the "need to buy technology".

When the first generation plasmas came out they weren't even 720(i) or (p) in resolution, yet the retailers pushed them hard in their advertisements and in-store staff.

When 720 sets came out, the lower resolution set were referred as "near HD". When 1080 sets came out "full HD" was used to differentiate them from the 720 sets.

For the past couple years the retailers have been making a big effort to convince everyone that their DVD player (which played DVD's perfectly well) wasn't good enough and that you needed an "upconverting" player.

The next step is the pushing of 1080p sets (because they're better then 1080i) and Blu-ray players and movies because they are better then DVD.

If you think about it, Blu-ray having a name totally different than DVD (unlike HD-DVD) should make this last part that much easier. The new pitch line will be "To get the best home movie experience, you need Blu-ray. Its 1080p picture is better then upconverted DVD".

Best Buy has been showing National Ads about coming to Best Buy for your Best HD and Blu-ray Products.

That's BIG!

[Dalese]

Originally Posted by k20king

Best Buy has been showing National Ads about coming to Best Buy for your Best HD and Blu-ray Products.

That's BIG!

Exactly! Blu-ray is different. Blu-ray is better. You need Blu-ray.

Good buzz word brands get the biggest bang in sales performance.

[Thomasbeau]

I know that I do not have a BD version of SW:Episode 3 to compare to, but I have seen a couple actual BD disc that don't even look as good as this SD disc. Believe me I am no fan of upconverting versus BD, my point was that often the general consumer is too ignorant to better technology to know what they are missing.

Originally Posted by SamInNorthCakalakey

Looks pretty good compared to what?! You have nothing to compare it to, so you can't say "this is good enough" because you know what, that title, on BD is going to be incredible!!!!!!!!!!

[sarnell2]

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/0...ref=technology

"The other interesting discussion is whether we really need a high-definition disc at all. Some people suggested that the latest round of “upconverting” DVD players can turn the 480 lines of resolution on DVDs into a very nice picture on a 720 or 1080 line HD set."


AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by sarnell2

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/0...ref=technology

"The other interesting discussion is whether we really need a high-definition disc at all. Some people suggested that the latest round of “upconverting” DVD players can turn the 480 lines of resolution on DVDs into a very nice picture on a 720 or 1080 line HD set."

AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Yeah. But, it seems this opinion always comes from people that haven't spent a few weeks watching HD discs and then going back and looking at that those upconverts.

Gary