Blue Ray content on "plain old" DVD

[gverig]

Already posted this in "Technology and News", there recommended to ask here...

Might seem like a dumb question but is there a way to encode a blue ray content standard onto a DVD?
I would like to play with BDJ but I don't want to buy a blue ray burner (I don't want to play with it THAT much).

Thoughts?
Thank you.

[VinnAY]

being how a regular DVD is what...4gb? A BD is somewhere around 20gb, if I'm not mistaken (whatever the size, it's substantially more...").

How's that?

[gverig]

I am not talking about burning blue ray movies onto standard DVDs.

Blue ray specification consists of two parts: blue ray disks (laser technology, cool lights, 50G - or more depending on number of layers, etc.) and the content specification- how menus are laid out, what codecs are supported, networking support, local storage and mandatory support of a subversion of Java specification (BDJ). I don't care about size. Lets pretend that I have 2 seconds of high def video (or potentially no content at all). I want to play with other parts of the specifications- menus, transitions, java code, etc. But I maybe kinda a little bit curious which does not to me justify a trip to Fry's for a BD burner and much less a $$ for mentioned burner.

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by gverig

I am not talking about burning blue ray movies onto standard DVDs.

Blue ray specification consists of two parts: blue ray disks (laser technology, cool lights, 50G - or more depending on number of layers, etc.) and the content specification- how menus are laid out, what codecs are supported, networking support, local storage and mandatory support of a subversion of Java specification (BDJ). I don't care about size. Lets pretend that I have 2 seconds of high def video (or potentially no content at all). I want to play with other parts of the specifications- menus, transitions, java code, etc. But I maybe kinda a little bit curious which does not to me justify a trip to Fry's for a BD burner and much less a $$ for mentioned burner.

Sure! You can put anything on a DVD-R... space permitting.
Playing it back *WILL* require playing it back on a computer optical drive capable of spinning it fast enough for the bitrate of the video burned.
*ALSO* you will need some sort of Bu-ray playback software, or some player software that can digest the m2ts file format.

Computer specs should exceed 2.0GHz dual core and a semi decent graphics solution for smooth playback.
The menus and "added features" should work as well.

[plee]

Originally Posted by gverig

I am not talking about burning blue ray movies onto standard DVDs.

Blue ray specification consists of two parts: blue ray disks (laser technology, cool lights, 50G - or more depending on number of layers, etc.) and the content specification- how menus are laid out, what codecs are supported, networking support, local storage and mandatory support of a subversion of Java specification (BDJ). I don't care about size. Lets pretend that I have 2 seconds of high def video (or potentially no content at all). I want to play with other parts of the specifications- menus, transitions, java code, etc. But I maybe kinda a little bit curious which does not to me justify a trip to Fry's for a BD burner and much less a $$ for mentioned burner.

First, its Bluray not Blue ray...

Second, there is a book (can't remember) that talks about the BDJ specs and has some examples. As of right now there is no cheap tool to help you create the menus/BDJ type stuff (ie. a game, etc...)

I think you can "develop" in Java, making sure you only use the BDJ calls, you can do it that way...but you'll have to wait until an affordable tool comes along to actually test it out...

[Ex Accountant]

Originally Posted by plee

First, its Bluray not Blue ray...

Not to be a jerk, but actually it's Blu-ray.

[Rob J in WNY]

...and Blu-ray is definitely not "blurry."

[gverig]

Thank you for comments and suggestions.

[Rojas]

Yes you could turn any DVD disk into a HD disk that
could be played back on any Blu Ray player.
its called AVCHD format.
If you record HD home movies from a HD camera or record
TV show in HD you could burn them using ulead video studio X2
and burn it using the AVCHD format.

[gverig]

I think I have my answer- see BD-5 and BD-9 specifications.

Again, thanks for thoughts and comments.

[Rojas]

Originally Posted by gverig

I think I have my answer- see BD-5 and BD-9 specifications.

Again, thanks for thoughts and comments.

For BD Authoring on a DVD disk
this site may help.

http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-134402.html

[jmkoch]

A BD on a "conventional" DVD disc is often called AVCHD-DVD. The discs play on BD players, a PS3, or any red laser drive of a PC that has an adeuqate core 2 duo CPU and post-2005 dedicated graphics card with at least 256 MB cache.

The discs will NOT play on a standard DVD player, though, and will stutter on most P4 and older PCs. Furthermore, the display screen will not show HD if it is only VGA or SVGA.

Nero, Pinnacle, Ulead, and Cyberlink all offer means to burn AVCHD-DVD discs. The latest Vegas ware does too, but without menus. Premier Elements burns to BD but not AVCHD-DVD.

[gverig]

Ahh, great, this is indeed what I was looking for. I'll try to play with dhcookbook