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[emacs]

Originally Posted by Leopold BUTTERS

what is the 1.5mbps core?

DTS-HD Master Audio tracks contain two data streams

- the DTS core stream
- a residual stream

if a player or receiver is capable of decoding DTS-HD Master Audio it reconstructs the original audio stream by combining the core stream with the residual stream.

if a player or receiver is not capable of decoding DTS-HD Master Audio it only processes the core stream and ignores the residual stream.

any BD players decode DTS MA?

yes. have a look at the most recent players from Samsung, Panasonic and I think Denon.

[Leopold BUTTERS]

Originally Posted by emacs

DTS-HD Master Audio tracks contain two data streams

- the DTS core stream
- a residual stream

if a player or receiver is capable of decoding DTS-HD Master Audio it reconstructs the original audio stream by combining the core stream with the residual stream.

if a player or receiver is not capable of decoding DTS-HD Master Audio it only processes the core stream and ignores the residual stream.




yes. have a look at the most recent players from Samsung, Panasonic and I think Denon.

okay...so the ps3 decodes it and what you get is DTS 5.1?

[emacs]

Originally Posted by Leopold BUTTERS

okay...so the ps3 decodes it and what you get is DTS 5.1?

if the PS3 is configured to send Linear PCM audio through HDMI and you selected the DTS-HD Master Audio track from a Blu-ray disc, the PS3 will only send the DTS core track. it's multi-channel (5.1) with a maximum bitrate of 1.5Mbit/s. Master Audio is also multi-channel (unlimited actually) with maximum bitrate of 24.5Mbit/s on Blu-ray. so, what's the sound difference between 1.5 and 24.5? well, a very crude analogy is to compare the audio quality between a 128kbps MP3 with a 7.8kbps MP3. i'm sure you can tell the difference. admittedly, it's not an entirely accurate analogy although it does give you some sense of the kind of quality DTS-HD Master Audio has over DTS core.

[dobyblue]

I've never been a big fan of Sony's non-ES receivers.

If you're looking for a budget receiver with hirez audio capabilities you can't go wrong with the $399 Onkyo TX-SR605.

[kingtuna]

Go with the Sony Str-dg910. The extra HDMI port is always useful, so you don't have to get a HDMI switch. I got my dg910 from jr.com for $424 total (free shipping, which took about a week, and no sales tax, cause I live in Cali). Some people have had problems with the 605 because of its upconverting problems from component to 1080p, and others complain about audio problems. But the Onkyo does decode DTS-MA (or is it another codec).

My plan was get the Sony, and I can wait for the next firmware update for the PS3 to decode DTS-MA and other high quality codecs. Just remember to buy all of your cables from monoprice.com---great quality cables for inexpensive prices.


King TUNA

[dobyblue]

Yes the Onkyo does decode dts-ma

[Grady]

I'm sorry if I'm dense but I have a 605 hooked to a PS3 and I want to decode DTS-HD-MA and DTHD with the receiver. I've got it transmitting HDMI/bitstream to the receiver but I'm still not getting anything over DD. If I connect an optical cable will I be able to get the DTHD and/or DTS-HD-MA?

Again, sorry for being dense but I'm really new to all of this and I'm trying to figure it all out.

[MacDaddyOJack]

Originally Posted by Grady

I'm sorry if I'm dense but I have a 605 hooked to a PS3 and I want to decode DTS-HD-MA and DTHD with the receiver. I've got it transmitting HDMI/bitstream to the receiver but I'm still not getting anything over DD. If I connect an optical cable will I be able to get the DTHD and/or DTS-HD-MA?

Again, sorry for being dense but I'm really new to all of this and I'm trying to figure it all out.

PS3 cannot bitstream the new audio codecs. However, it can decode DD, DTS, and TrueHD. All you will get from DTS-MA tracks is the lossy core. I think that one day in the near future the PS3 will be able to decode DTS-MA, but not right now. To take advantage of them, set your PS3 to LPCM. The light on your reciever will not come on, it will only say "direct" or "multichannel" but you will be getting essentially the same thing. It is the only way to do it if you have the PS3 as your player.

Edit: Optical cable will not work either, change your settings to LPCM and it will be the same thing. You will just have the PS3 decode the signal instead of your reciever.

[Leopold BUTTERS]

Originally Posted by emacs

if the PS3 is configured to send Linear PCM audio through HDMI and you selected the DTS-HD Master Audio track from a Blu-ray disc, the PS3 will only send the DTS core track. it's multi-channel (5.1) with a maximum bitrate of 1.5Mbit/s. Master Audio is also multi-channel (unlimited actually) with maximum bitrate of 24.5Mbit/s on Blu-ray. so, what's the sound difference between 1.5 and 24.5? well, a very crude analogy is to compare the audio quality between a 128kbps MP3 with a 7.8kbps MP3. i'm sure you can tell the difference. admittedly, it's not an entirely accurate analogy although it does give you some sense of the kind of quality DTS-HD Master Audio has over DTS core.

so would sony be able to add DTS HD MA decoding though the ps3 via a firmware update?

[owa]

Originally Posted by Leopold BUTTERS

so would sony be able to add DTS HD MA decoding though the ps3 via a firmware update?

That's what we're hoping. It is supposedly being worked on but I'm not sure anything official has been said.

[Leopold BUTTERS]

Originally Posted by owa

That's what we're hoping. It is supposedly being worked on but I'm not sure anything official has been said.

I hope so too..I plan on getting a 40gig ps3 next month. Hopefully sometime in the next few months we get it.

[jkwest]

Onkyo 605.

I have it and I love it.