Higher peak bitrate speeds up encoding 'considerably', saves studios money

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by jknuss01

Due to it already being planned and worked on before they made their announcment?

No, because there will still be a HD DVD release of this title.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

No, because there will still be a HD DVD release of this title.

I assume then that Warner's "old" contract prevents them from releasing superior video encodes on Blu-Ray correct?

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

I assume then that Warner's "old" contract prevents them from releasing superior video encodes on Blu-Ray correct?

Or simply reluctance to do double work.

[PaulGo]

Sounds great! Glad I asked the question.

[Hassoon]

Great news to wake up to.

Bring on I Am Legend .

And the Matrix Re-encoded (pun not inteneded )

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by Grubert

Or simply reluctance to do double work.

Ya but, from your opening post in this thread (Dave Vaughn comments), it sounds like a new high bitrate optimized Blu-Ray encode would'nt be much work at all

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Grubert

Or simply reluctance to do double work.

Indeed. While HD DVDs are still being released don't expect any optimised releases for Blu-ray. If we do happen to get one, well, it would be for a major title that is already out on HD DVD...

[Scorxpion]

Batman Begins is the one.

Good News to accept the power of BD

[ra1024]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Indeed. While HD DVDs are still being released don't expect any optimised releases for Blu-ray. If we do happen to get one, well, it would be for a major title that is already out on HD DVD...

Well that makes the decision for me easy on Legend since I wasn't sure if I was going to purchase it.

Is there any chance that they will re-encode the Matrix or V with higher bit rates? I really wanted these but won't buy any more Warner HD DVDs even if they're packaged in a blue case.

[WickyWoo]

THey could, it doesn't mean they will

Warner is likely continuing to use VC-1 because their engineers are comfortable with the toolset

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

THey could, it doesn't mean they will

Warner is likely continuing to use VC-1 because their engineers are comfortable with the toolset

Indeed, but I have heard some people are eager to get down and dirty with the latest AVC tools which are very good and get better results than VC-1 in 9/10 cases.

[Bullseye]

Some of WB titles have been pretty good. I loved how Blade Runner looked.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Some of WB titles have been pretty good. I loved how Blade Runner looked.

Blade Runner is a special title that took a very long time to get right, but we can't expect that for all titles which is why this is such a big advantage for Blu-ray.

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Indeed, but I have heard some people are eager to get down and dirty with the latest AVC tools which are very good and get better results than VC-1 in 9/10 cases.

Ouch for Microsoft.

In that connection, what's the outlook for second-tier compression houses and studios? Not everybody has top-rate compressionists like the major companies do, so the more foolproof, the better.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Indeed, but I have heard some people are eager to get down and dirty with the latest AVC tools which are very good and get better results than VC-1 in 9/10 cases.

WOW! AVC gets better results then VC-1 in 90% of cases

Any truth to ramblings about AVC encodes taking substiantialy longer then VC-1 encodes? Or is that just more FUD?

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

WOW! AVC gets better results then VC-1 in 90% of cases

Any truth to ramblings about AVC encodes taking substiantialy longer then VC-1 encodes? Or is that just more FUD?

No VC-1 is much faster, this is it's major advantage, the margin by which AVC is better is not deemed big enough for the moment because it is not as fast as VC-1.

The tools are all in place for AVC to become significantly faster than VC-1, but like verything it will just take a bit of patience.

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

WOW! AVC gets better results then VC-1 in 90% of cases

Any truth to ramblings about AVC encodes taking substiantialy longer then VC-1 encodes? Or is that just more FUD?

this has been discussed many times here in this forum and yes this is true.

there is a good article about it in dvdfile.com comparing AVC and VC-1 results so far was better for AVC rather than VC-1.But doesnt mean at all if VC-1 was better encoded like some of Disney titles Deja Vu for example

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Grubert

Ouch for Microsoft.

In that connection, what's the outlook for second-tier compression houses and studios? Not everybody has top-rate compressionists like the major companies do, so the more foolproof, the better.

Well unless MS are still giving away free tech support then I don't know about the future of VC-1.

PEP isn't the easiest thing to use, but like I said it is very fast compared to the competition, so it all depends on what the priorities of the post-houses are.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

No VC-1 is much faster, this is it's major advantage, the margin by which AVC is better is not deemed big enough for the moment because it is not as fast as VC-1.

The tools are all in place for AVC to become significantly faster than VC-1, but like verything it will just take a bit of patience.

Thanks Maxpower
Good to know. Especially the part about AVC eventually becoming faster then VC-1. Anything to punish Microsoft is good

P.S. That's the sad part about this war: there is SOOO much FUD being spread around by MS and HD DUD supporters that you can't discern the onces of truth from the mounds of crap

[spicynacho]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Well unless MS are still giving away free tech support then I don't know about the future of VC-1.

PEP isn't the easiest thing to use, but like I said it is very fast compared to the competition, so it all depends on what the priorities of the post-houses are.

Maybe someone at sony should write a BE optimized AVC codec and let the PS3 be a workhorse in both production of BR movies and playback.