Me thinks Tom's Hardware is on the wrong side

[mystiksuicide]

First of all who is Tom's Hardware? Second who cares if he isn't that important anyways.

[LynxFX]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

First of all who is Tom's Hardware? Second who cares if he isn't that important anyways.

It is a very popular tech site that has been around for a very long time. In the beginning it was a great resource for reviews, tech docs, benchmarks, and news. But at the beginning of this century the site took a turn for the worst. His bias towards companies in tech wars like AMD vs Intel and Nvidia vs ATI vs 3dfx became quite apparent. So much so that you would constantly find misinformation, tweaks to benchmarks to fit his propaganda, and flat out lies sometimes. His news section turned into a rumor hodge podge much akin to the tech site TheInquirer. The difference is that theinq states they are a rumor site, Toms posts rumors as facts.

But yes, he isn't that important anymore as 8 years of crap has hurt his credibility but you'll find his site linked as the source of many news articles still.

[CAB]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

First of all who is Tom's Hardware? Second who cares if he isn't that important anyways.

Just a site where a ton of the tech community frequent for news, reviews on everything consumer tech.

Second, I cared enough to post about it.

From their press kit:

"Today, Bestofmedia Group provides unbiased product reviews, news, articles, price comparisons and similar information on high technology, consumer electronics and gaming. It is one of the top three online media publishing companies for technology in the world with over 19.8 million readers and operations in the United States, Germany, France, Italy, the United Kingdom, Russia, Poland, Hungary, Turkey, Sweden, Taiwan and China."

19.8 million people out there think what these guys say is important.

[Cambrian]

Tom's glory days are long gone. People in the PC hardware community no longer take Tom's Hardware seriously. They have been shown to be incorrect and downright stupid on many occasions.

However....The PC hardware community is pro HD-DVD in general...
If you spend a few hours at hardforum.com and you'll see that. Why?

Because the PC hardware community is comprised of people who download software illegally, rip and copy movies.
They are under the assumption that since HD-DVD is region free by design and has more "laxed" encryption measures, it will be the best option for them to pirate movies.

[bb::bd]

Originally Posted by Cambrian

Tom's glory days are long gone. People in the PC hardware community no longer take Tom's Hardware seriously. They have been shown to be incorrect and downright stupid on many occasions.

However....The PC hardware community is pro HD-DVD in general...
If you spend a few hours at hardforum.com and you'll see that. Why?

Because the PC hardware community is comprised of people who download software illegally, rip and copy movies.
They are under the assumption that since HD-DVD is region free by design and has more "laxed" encryption measures, it will be the best option for them to pirate movies.

The rest of this post is drivel.

Of course the PC community, like this community, has its share of immature, poorly informed, technically challenged, financially retarded members as all other communities.

It also has it's share of people who strive for the absolute best. And they are intelligent enough to see through marketing BS and pick BD for the same reasons you and I did.

And there are plenty of geeks who make insane coin, and don't have to resort to stealing anything.

As for Toms Hardware, most true hardware geeks use the site for what its worth, pictures and specs. No one really cares what they think about anything.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Cambrian

Tom's glory days are long gone. People in the PC hardware community no longer take Tom's Hardware seriously. They have been shown to be incorrect and downright stupid on many occasions.

However....The PC hardware community is pro HD-DVD in general...
If you spend a few hours at hardforum.com and you'll see that. Why?

Because the PC hardware community is comprised of people who download software illegally, rip and copy movies.
They are under the assumption that since HD-DVD is region free by design and has more "laxed" encryption measures, it will be the best option for them to pirate movies.

All of us don't pirate. But that's the assumption. The issue with HTPC'rs is the ability to archive our movies and have them on demand without having to put a disc in a drive (you may say that's lazy - but that's just the way we are). I was purple (I loved both formats), but I'm glad to see the "war" end. I was also a former cryptologist - one thing about something that's encrypted - it was ment to be decrypted. SHAME on pirates! But genuine archivers, its just a convinence feature. Hooray for AnyDVD HD - whether we want to admit it or not, this little program helped Blu in the long run (on the PC side) - its what got me going. I don't buy a lot of replacement software (meaning I do not plan on replacing my current dvd collection with either format) - but I buy new releases (can't wait for National Treasure 2)!!! Disney and AnyDVD HD brought me to Blu - I think Sony owes Slysoft a big thank you!

[Dalese]

Originally Posted by CAB

Just a site where a ton of the tech community frequent for news, reviews on everything consumer tech.

Second, I cared enough to post about it.

From their press kit:

"Today, Bestofmedia Group provides unbiased product reviews, news, articles, price comparisons and similar information on high technology, consumer electronics and gaming. It is one of the top three online media publishing companies for technology in the world with over 19.8 million readers and operations in the United States, Germany, France, Italy, the United Kingdom, Russia, Poland, Hungary, Turkey, Sweden, Taiwan and China."

19.8 million people out there think what these guys say is important.

I don't frequent their site but have read a few good articles from there when doing searches on a web.

It's too bad with all their experience in high-tech gadgetry the reporting of an online petition is seen as "news worthy". Mark Raby is confusing his HD-DVD-fandom with actual information that could be considered "useful" to the site's regular readers.

[Dragonraine]

Man so just reporting a news item about HD DVD labels you as biased now? jeez.

[CAB]

Originally Posted by Dragonraine

Man so just reporting a news item about HD DVD labels you as biased now? jeez.

Did you even read the article?

Allow me to quote:
"HD DVD has many things going for it. The players are less bulky and less expensive. It is also not as costly for studios to publish their films on HD DVD. Blu-ray is the much more expensive format."

"The technology often is considered to be superior and cheaper on the HD DVD side, but Blu-ray just happens to have the PS3 factor. In my opinion, that is really the only thing it has on its side right now, and if that fizzles, we're looking at a completely new ball game."

"The battle is still too close to call at this time. My advice: If you aren't part of the early-adopter crowd and you don't want to run the risk of investing into a failing format, remain patient."

This is news? He published these things after the Warner move. No he's not biased. He just accidently failed to mention that Blu has storage and bitrate headroom for future applications and that the HD DVD had no CE support but Toshiba and 30% of the major studio support.

[Dragonraine]

Originally Posted by CAB

Did you even read the article?

Allow me to quote:
"HD DVD has many things going for it. The players are less bulky and less expensive. It is also not as costly for studios to publish their films on HD DVD. Blu-ray is the much more expensive format."

"The technology often is considered to be superior and cheaper on the HD DVD side, but Blu-ray just happens to have the PS3 factor. In my opinion, that is really the only thing it has on its side right now, and if that fizzles, we're looking at a completely new ball game."

"The battle is still too close to call at this time. My advice: If you aren't part of the early-adopter crowd and you don't want to run the risk of investing into a failing format, remain patient."

This is news? He published these things after the Warner move. No he's not biased. He just accidently failed to mention that Blu has storage and bitrate headroom for future applications and that the HD DVD had no CE support but Toshiba and 30% of the major studio support.

Ah, i skimmed through the article and didnt read the whole thing. I stand corrected. Carry on.

[ottscay]

I'm not sure how "pro" HD DVD the most recent article is. Honestly, the headline "thousands sign petition to save HD DVD" implies straight away that HD DVD needs saving, and the article follows up the fanboy quote ("consumers have not chosen Blu-ray") with the fact that many people in the industry think the war is over, and that Blu-ray outsold HD DVD 6:1 in last weeks numbers.

All in all, I doubt too many people will be impressed by HD DVD's chances if they read this article.

[Papi4baby]

Yeah i posted about them a few times, they are pro red, oh well. Hopefully they will go down with the ship like HDDVD, they have been way being the power ball when it comes to reviews lately anyways.

[SavagePotato]

Toms hardware has no credibility left, and hasn't for a long long time. They were written off by just about everyone as extremely biased and not worth reading.