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Old 02-26-2008, 05:41 PM   #1
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Default Please help/uncompressed question

My older receiver will not decode the new lossless audios.

My receiver has optical in, but not HDMI in.

Sonys new upcoming 550 will decode all the new lossless audio.

If I get the new Sony 550 and send the audio to my receiver via optical, will I be able to appreciate the lossless audio to its fullest?

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Old 02-26-2008, 05:43 PM   #2
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No . . . you would have to use the analog outputs, provided your receiver has analog inputs.
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Old 02-26-2008, 05:43 PM   #3
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If I get the new Sony 550 and send the audio to my receiver via optical, will I be able to appreciate the lossless audio to its fullest?
Not with Optical...but yes with Multichannel Analog connections and your existing receiver if it has these inputs.
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Old 02-26-2008, 05:51 PM   #4
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Good going guys . . . . Correct answers !!! [Jim]
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Thanks guys....WRONG ASWER, but thank you.

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Old 02-26-2008, 06:12 PM   #6
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Thanks guys....WRONG ASWER, but thank you.

Well, if your not ready for the truth, don't ask the question here on this Forum [Jim]
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Old 02-26-2008, 06:32 PM   #7
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Thanks guys....WRONG ASWER, but thank you.
what was wrong about it?

...optical cable will only give you 2.0 Lossless. If your current receiver doesn't have multichannel analog inputs, then you will never have lossless 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound without a true HDMI receiver. Optical doesn't cut the mustard.
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I take it to mean it's not the answer he wanted to hear, ie, he doesn't want to buy a new receiver.

At least, that's how I read it, after giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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I take it to mean it's not the answer he wanted to hear, ie, he doesn't want to buy a new receiver.

At least, that's how I read it, after giving him the benefit of the doubt.


BINGO! Exactamundo on the translation. Damn it!
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...but yes with Multichannel Analog connections and your existing receiver if it has these inputs.
...answered in the third post.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:52 PM   #11
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I know, but it appears he missed your point the first time around.
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This is my first post, so I would like to thank the members that have provided me with valuable info. Thanks and I hope to contribute myself. So, I contacted Samsung to make sure my bd-1400 can output the uncompressed pcm and the master audio discs I do have before I go and buy more. They told me yes it does, even though it doesn't say so on their site. I also asked just for the fun of it what cable I should use to stream this uncompressed audio. They said optical, both times I called. I told them I heard that optical can't do this and that I would have to use coaxial or hdmi.
I suppose I have three questions here. 1Would the digital coaxial out on the bd-1400 be multichannel. 2. I think I read here that pcm or master audio is similar to wma, is this true. 3. Should I tell the techs at Samsung to go back to school. Oh yeah #4. I put my HT info in my signature, how do I stamp it at the end of my posts like the cool people.

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Old 02-28-2008, 02:50 PM   #13
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This is my first post, so I would like to thank the members that have provided me with valuable info. Thanks and I hope to contribute myself. So, I contacted Samsung to make sure my bd-1400 can output the uncompressed pcm and the master audio discs I do have before I go and buy more. They told me yes it does, even though it doesn't say so on their site. I also asked just for the fun of it what cable I should use to stream this uncompressed audio. They said optical, both times I called. I told them I heard that optical can't do this and that I would have to use coaxial or hdmi.
I suppose I have three questions here. 1Would the digital coaxial out on the bd-1400 be multichannel. 2. I think I read here that pcm or master audio is similar to wma, is this true. 3. Should I tell the techs at Samsung to go back to school. Oh yeah #4. I put my HT info in my signature, how do I stamp it at the end of my posts like the cool people.

Yes those people are retarded. Coax won't do it either. HDMI or mulitchannel Analog are the only ways to get Mulitchannel Lossless audio. What is your receiver. Does it have multichannel analog inputs?
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:44 PM   #14
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So, I contacted Samsung to make sure my bd-1400 can output the uncompressed pcm and the master audio
To use Multichannel Analog your player must be able to internally decode the various audio formats.

To my understanding, the BD-1400 can internally decode Dolby TrueHD but not Dts-HD MA (which it only bitstreams)...someone correct me if I am wrong.

so with multichannel analog and your BD-1400 you can enjoy Uncompressed PCM and Dolby TrueHD tracks...for bitstream Dts-HD MA you will need an HDMI v1.3 receiver with decoding ability.

And the service people who said to use an Optical cable have no clue what they are speaking on. Which is typical of any customer service department.
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