has anybody seen the new panasonic plasmas yet?

[Chevypower]

I wouldn't worry, I still want to get a Panasonic PZ800 plasma when it comes out, but it's just something to bear in mind, that plasma technology wasn't given a magic cure, and some people on this forum still believe plasma phosphor burn to be a complete myth (as one thread title, even suggests). That is just garbage. In all fairness, they have come along way since the first plasma TVs, and burn-in is a lot more preventable.

[celsior360]

I am like you and want to get the PZ800 model. But u know, the tv it's a long term invesment so I am just doing some careful about research. I know this is their 11th Generation and I am confident that this is one of the best plasma they will ever produce. Hope it comes out soon!!

[Sonny]

chevy at least own a plasma before you decide to be come the expert , take it from a TRUE owner, if you treat your plasma right you will have NO burn-in problems . Every plasma owner on here will tell you how it works.

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by Sonny

chevy at least own a plasma before you decide to be come the expert , take it from a TRUE owner, if you treat your plasma right you will have NO burn-in problems . Every plasma owner on here will tell you how it works.

Oh yes, sorry Sonny, you are the only TRUE owner of a plasma, I am imagining things when i look at an NEC PlasmaSync 50 inch flat pannel and see faint TV network logo in the bottom corner, it really is a CRT and I am not wealthy like you Sonny. I must be a FALSE owner lol. Actually I am now, because i left that in Australia when i moved over here to the US. I also have worked in the industry since 2002. I bet you have been an expert on HD plasma TVs since the 60s though.

Originally Posted by dobyblue

If you want to leave a station test screen on your plasma for 2 weeks while you pop off and visit Grandma, then you get what you deserve. For all intents and purposes, burn-in on plasma is no longer an issue.

It was back in 2003, when not much was being broadcast in HD, and there was a test loop HD (on the HD channel) from the TV stations to fill in when the show was not available in HD, the network logo appeared in the bottom corner, but there was no commercial break where the logo was removed for a period of time. It was an ex demo TV, got it a little cheaper for $15,000 at the time, knowing it had the slight burn in, you can only see it when the whole screen in white.

There is some proof for you Celsior, these guys want you to believe the new plasmas are "magic". I am not saying the new ones will burn in with normal use, in fact, I would be surprised if it did. That's why I will probably buy the PZ800 plasma. I am just open to the possibility that they can, if for example you fell asleep, leaving a paused image on the screen (which I have done, the movie finished, and the DVD player left that Sony logo on, which didnt move for some reason - lucky that didnt burn in). I could find you plenty of references backing up what I said that the new plasma TVs avoid phosphor burn by pixel shifting. I am not surprised that these "experts" like Sonny and Dobyblue haven't come up with their version of why modern plasma TVs don't cause phosphor burn. Their reason is "you don't own one, so you wouldn't know." That's the kind of reasoning you give when you are in kindergarten.

[Joe Cain]

Chevy---calling someone an idiot doesn't mark you as an expert in anything except being rude.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

It was back in 2003, when not much was being broadcast in HD, and there was a test loop HD (on the HD channel) from the TV stations to fill in when the show was not available in HD, the network logo appeared in the bottom corner, but there was no commercial break where the logo was removed for a period of time. It was an ex demo TV, got it a little cheaper for $15,000 at the time, knowing it had the slight burn in, you can only see it when the whole screen in white.

There is some proof for you Celsior, these guys want you to believe the new plasmas are "magic".

So basically, you're asserting that current plasma TVs are as susceptible to burn in as plasma TVs from 2003 were? Seems like your knowledge isn't very up to date. If you're going to call people idiots, may I suggest that you become more familiar with the subject matter first?

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by richteer

So basically, you're asserting that current plasma TVs are as susceptible to burn in as plasma TVs from 2003 were? Seems like your knowledge isn't very up to date. If you're going to call people idiots, may I suggest that you become more familiar with the subject matter first?

I assume you read my post before that, where i indicated the new ones use pixel shifting and burn-resistant phosphor to reduce it's chances of burning? So, in knowing you read and understood that's what I said, I would presume you would know that I am NOT SAYING "they are as susceptible to burn in as plasma TVs from 2003 were." You are right though, I shouldn't have called anyone an idiot.
Sonny I apologize for that, I shouldn't have said it.

What I am trying to say is, I am not 100% convinced that the new ones are 100% burn proof, lets say you left it on long enough (I am not saying you are going to) LCD and OLED wont burn in. Plasma still looks better than LCD, i would buy a plasma today. OLED isnt cheap and big enough yet. Let's move on...

[richteer]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

What I am trying to say is, I am not 100% convinced that the new ones are 100% burn proof, lets say you left it on long enough (I am not saying you are going to) LCD and OLED wont burn in. Plasma still looks better than LCD, i would buy a plasma today. OLED isnt cheap and big enough yet. Let's move on...

I don't think anyone is asserting that current plasma TVs are 100% burn in proof. If abused enough, I'm sure some burn in can occur. But there's a big difference between "plasma TVs are susceptible to burn in" and "plasma TVs are susceptible to burn in if abused".

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

It was back in 2003, when not much was being broadcast in HD, and there was a test loop HD (on the HD channel) from the TV stations to fill in when the show was not available in HD, the network logo appeared in the bottom corner, but there was no commercial break where the logo was removed for a period of time. It was an ex demo TV, got it a little cheaper for $15,000 at the time, knowing it had the slight burn in, you can only see it when the whole screen in white.

Ex-demo TV. Say no more.

Originally Posted by Chevypower

There is some proof for you Celsior, these guys want you to believe the new plasmas are "magic". I am not saying the new ones will burn in with normal use, in fact, I would be surprised if it did. That's why I will probably buy the PZ800 plasma. I am just open to the possibility that they can, if for example you fell asleep, leaving a paused image on the screen (which I have done, the movie finished, and the DVD player left that Sony logo on, which didnt move for some reason - lucky that didnt burn in). I could find you plenty of references backing up what I said that the new plasma TVs avoid phosphor burn by pixel shifting. I am not surprised that these "experts" like Sonny and Dobyblue haven't come up with their version of why modern plasma TVs don't cause phosphor burn. Their reason is "you don't own one, so you wouldn't know." That's the kind of reasoning you give when you are in kindergarten.

Plasma sets are as susceptible to burn-in as CRT sets, that is to say, if you go around ruining CRT sets then perhaps plasma is not for you. I cannot remember the last time I saw a CRT set with burn-in. There's nothing magic about it, you're just exaggerating everything and getting emotionally charged for some inexplicable reason.

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Ex-demo TV. Say no more.

I cannot remember the last time I saw a CRT set with burn-in. There's nothing magic about it, you're just exaggerating everything and getting emotionally charged for some inexplicable reason.

You are correct about CRT burn-in, i have only seen them burnt-in at airports. I am not sure about your last statement though, do you have scientific evidence to back this? Does this help you feel better about plasma TVs?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

You are correct about CRT burn-in, i have only seen them burnt-in at airports. I am not sure about your last statement though, do you have scientific evidence to back this? Does this help you feel better about plasma TVs?

CRT and plasma are both phospor based display technologies. What is the case for one, will be the case for the other.

The only thing that helps me feel better about plasma TV's is the price and the performance. Not sure what else one looks for in a display?

[Beefbowl]

Originally Posted by celsior360

I am like you and want to get the PZ800 model. But u know, the tv it's a long term invesment so I am just doing some careful about research. I know this is their 11th Generation and I am confident that this is one of the best plasma they will ever produce. Hope it comes out soon!!

what are the 800's suppose to be out?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Beefbowl

what are the 800's suppose to be out?

Next couple weeks.

[celsior360]

does Panasonic release something like dvd break in? From my understanding on the net, this dvd just help before the plasma run in. But does this dvd keep track of how much time it run? coz I don't have any concept with it!! thanks everyone!!

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by celsior360

does Panasonic release something like dvd break in? From my understanding on the net, this dvd just help before the plasma run in. But does this dvd keep track of how much time it run? coz I don't have any concept with it!! thanks everyone!!

The disc runs for a specified time, so you can keep track simply of how many times you've played the disc.

Panasonic doesn't make a break-in disc, nor does any other company as far as I know. It's simply a convenient tool.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

I wouldn't worry, I still want to get a Panasonic PZ800 plasma when it comes out, but it's just something to bear in mind, that plasma technology wasn't given a magic cure, and some people on this forum still believe plasma phosphor burn to be a complete myth (as one thread title, even suggests). That is just garbage. In all fairness, they have come along way since the first plasma TVs, and burn-in is a lot more preventable.

Actually what most people believe is that only a complete idiot has the lack of capacity to actually cause burn-in on current models.

If you can't burn-in your CRT, you're not going to burn in your plasma, it's as simple as that.

If you want to leave a station test screen on your plasma for 2 weeks while you pop off and visit Grandma, then you get what you deserve. For all intents and purposes, burn-in on plasma is no longer an issue.

What plasma do you own?