HELP: whats the difference between these two pioneers?

[ManUtd]

Originally Posted by btf1980

I certainly hope people are not making their buying decisions of the Kuro line by SD broadcasts at Bestbuy that was probably splitted 80 ways from here to China with other sets there. That's like not buying a Porsche because it didn't have enough cup holders.

I also hope that anyone reading such "observations" take them with a grain of salt. Crappy SD broadcast and Bestbuy....enough said.

[dobyblue]

I don't think the 5010 is worth $1,000 more than the 5080.
However, you should be able to get Best Buy's price down to $3,299 on the PDP-5010, at which point it is definitely worth upgrading to the 1080p set.

At 50" and at 6-8ft viewing distance, there is definitely an advantage to the 1080p set if you're using it to watch a lot of Blu-ray discs.

Plus it correctly deinterlaces 1080i to 1080p for HD broadcasts.

If you're sitting 10ft away or more, perhaps go with the 5080.

[btf1980]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I don't think the 5010 is worth $1,000 more than the 5080.

If you're sitting 10ft away or more, perhaps go with the 5080.

You know, I wouldn't really throw out blanket statements like that. I think it should be on a case by case basis. The 5080 is a fine display, but SDE is still a major issue for me, even at 12 feet out. I wear glasses, so I see everything. It has to be 1080p or bust for me.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by btf1980

You know, I wouldn't really throw out blanket statements like that. I think it should be on a case by case basis. The 5080 is a fine display, but SDE is still a major issue for me, even at 12 feet out. I wear glasses, so I see everything. It has to be 1080p or bust for me.

Hence the "perhaps"

It is 1080p Pioneer/Panasonic plasma or nothing for me personally.

I'd rather have a 768p PDP-5080FD Kuro though than any non-plasma 1080p set on the market.

[btf1980]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I'd rather have a 768p PDP-5080FD Kuro though than any non-plasma 1080p set on the market.

Agreed.

A while ago, I was at a friends house and he had a Westinghouse 1080p LCD. He kept going on and on about how it had the best image he had ever seen. I saw it, and it was god awful. Gray blacks, artifacting, just a bad overall image. I didn't want to rain on the guys parade and tell him it wasn't that good, so I just let him enjoy his set, and that was all that mattered I guess. But it was vomit inducing. It had green blotches like last years Toshiba LCD's. I think many people just buy these displays because it says 1080p and nothing else. I'd gladly take a 1024x768 4280 over any of these cheap 1080p LCD's.

[ManUtd]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I'd rather have a 768p PDP-5080FD Kuro though than any non-plasma 1080p set on the market.

I agree with you especially after reading that Home Theater magazine shootout.