5ms or 120HZ?

[brett_day]

Originally Posted by aramis109

I think you're getting the motionflow technology confused with 120hz. It should just remove the judder.

OP, I'd recommend 120hz. I don't have it, and the judder/"strobe" effect really gets to me personally. During panning, if there's a lot of detail in the shot (horizontal lines in fences, trees, lots of objects on the screen) it makes it flash because of the 3:2 pulldown. It bugs me personally a lot. My wife can't see it.

actually Motionflow is just the name sony gave 120hz for it's tv's!

motionflow is 120hz
120hz is motionflow

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-F82NiRl...otionflow.aspx

[turboLAZER]

120hz was created by the devil, it's just terrible

[matriq]

120hz is amazing for video games!
GTA4 with Auto Motion Plus on high on my Samsung is unrealll

[SellmeyourDVD]

Originally Posted by Noris159

Or, you could just buy a plasma that has better motion, color, and is cheaper...

I don't know why people buy large LCDs. They're far too expensive and always come up short to midrange plasmas.

Actually according to cnet the best lcd's are just short of the best plasmas. I'd like to know where you're getting your info.

And LCD's are priced lower than plasmas, don't know where you are getting any of your numbers from?

Maybe it's because you were brainwashed by the plasma gods, that may be it.

[matriq]

Originally Posted by Noris159

Or, you could just buy a plasma that has better motion, color, and is cheaper...

I don't know why people buy large LCDs. They're far too expensive and always come up short to midrange plasmas.

my lcd can make a game running at 30fps look like its running at 60fps
can a plasma do that too?

[SquidPuppet]

Plasma just looks "digital" to me. It may just be me, but even the best ones have an artificial look.....allmost mechanical. Superior blacks, but I hate how twitchy they look.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by brett_day

actually Motionflow is just the name sony gave 120hz for it's tv's!

motionflow is 120hz
120hz is motionflow

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-F82NiRl...otionflow.aspx

Ok, touche'. But what I'm thinking you're seeing is the motion-enhancing settings rather than just what 120hz can give you. See a better explanation of what I mean here:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=33838

Anytime anyone says "too smooth" it's a red flag that they're actually talking about motion-enhancement settings on high.

[caliblue15]

Well i can get a 40" Samsung with 5ms for $1000.

or

46" Samsung with 4ms and 120Hz for $1500.

That's why i really asked the question, is it really worth $500?

Edit: The 40" 120hz costs the same as the the 46"

[brett_day]

Originally Posted by caliblue15

Well i can get a 40" Samsung with 5ms for $1000.

or

46" Samsung with 4ms and 120Hz for $1500.

That's why i really asked the question, is it really worth $500?

Edit: The 40" 120hz costs the same as the the 46"

again....no it is not worth the extra $500 dude! seriously! the 5ms response time will take care of motion blur! trust us who say the 120hz looks like crap! it looks incredibly fake and artificial, but each to his own i guess.....the best way for you to tell will be to study each tv a bit more and see which one YOU prefer.

[MaleManGuy]

Originally Posted by caliblue15

Well i can get a 40" Samsung with 5ms for $1000.

or

46" Samsung with 4ms and 120Hz for $1500.

That's why i really asked the question, is it really worth $500?

Edit: The 40" 120hz costs the same as the the 46"

5ms gray to gray? OR 5ms black to white? The reason why LCD TV's have motion flow because the speed of the panel isn't really as stated since they use gray to gray switching times and this is why LCD TV's lose resolution during fast movement. Plasmas remain the best for motion. If an LCD was 5ms you could do 200 frames per second!!! But they aren't really 5ms. Plasma is truly < 1ms. When it comes down to it... LCD struggles to do 30fps.
Jeff