Friday the 13th: 8-Movie Collection (1980-1989)

[Rich1983]

Originally Posted by Scoot79

I do too. I just meant they could have ended it with part 4 like they once intended. 1-6 for me. I can leave the rest.

I really love The New Blood. I consider that to be the last of the classic films.

[Jay H.]

The first hour of part III is pretty bad; it's basically just showing off the 3-D, which becomes very tiresome when you watch it in 2-D. However, right at the hour mark, Jason walks onscreen wearing the hockey mask for the very first time. From this moment on, part III is one helluva ride. The kills are nasty (poor Andy!) and the intensity is on high.

It still doesn't make sense that Chris dreams of Mama, though. She doesn't know who she is, and never sees her face in the dream anyway. Just more of the silliness that is the F13 franchise.

[rocknblues81]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

The first hour of part III is pretty bad; it's basically just showing off the 3-D, which becomes very tiresome when you watch it in 2-D. However, right at the hour mark, Jason walks onscreen wearing the hockey mask for the very first time. From this moment on, part III is one helluva ride. The kills are nasty (poor Andy!) and the intensity is on high.

It still doesn't make sense that Chris dreams of Mama, though. She doesn't know who she is, and never sees her face in the dream anyway. Just more of the silliness that is the F13 franchise.

It is silliness, but the whole franchise is... But it's not silly enough to bother me like stuff that came later in the franchise. Like Jason's demise in part 8.

I'm used to the 3D stuff. It doesn't bother me.

[HarrisonJohn]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

It still doesn't make sense that Chris dreams of Mama, though. She doesn't know who she is, and never sees her face in the dream anyway. Just more of the silliness that is the F13 franchise.

I take the ending of 1 & 3 more like Crystal Lake is haunted, ghostly apparitions sort of thing.

[RandomMovieFan]

Why cant they restore the deleted part 7 footage

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by RandomMovieFan

Why cant they restore the deleted part 7 footage

The elements were destroyed by Paramount.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Originally Posted by RandomMovieFan

Why cant they restore the deleted part 7 footage

You can't do anything with VHS workprints, and that's all that is left sadly.
My Bloody Valentine has me hoping that maybe the film footage wasn't destroyed, but all signs and people in the know say it was. On the bright side, they said the same about MBV and (some/most of) it was discovered. Just like Jason, hope might not be dead even though it seems to be.

[Rich1983]

Originally Posted by bigdaddyhorse

You can't do anything with VHS workprints, and that's all that is left sadly.
My Bloody Valentine has me hoping that maybe the film footage wasn't destroyed, but all signs and people in the know say it was. On the bright side, they said the same about MBV and (some/most of) it was discovered. Just like Jason, hope might not be dead even though it seems to be.

Years ago, Anchor Bay released an Army of Darkness DVD called The Official Bootleg Edition (and later included it in the DVD Boomstick Edition). This was an extended version of Army of Darkness with an alternate ending. The extended footage was kind of raw in some places. It was plainly obvious that it was spliced back into the film and have not been treated in years, yet they still released the cut. I think that if they did it for Army of Darkness, they can do it for The New Blood. Call it something like Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood: The Video Nasty Edition! Market it with the consumer knowing full well that the video on the newly inserted footage will not look as good as the footage that has been preserved over the years, but this is as good as it is going to get. I think it can be done.

[Zillamon51]

Originally Posted by Rich1983

[Show spoiler]Years ago, Anchor Bay released an Army of Darkness DVD called The Official Bootleg Edition (and later included it in the DVD Boomstick Edition). This was an extended version of Army of Darkness with an alternate ending. The extended footage was kind of raw in some places. It was plainly obvious that it was spliced back into the film and have not been treated in years, yet they still released the cut. I think that if they did it for Army of Darkness, they can do it for The New Blood. Call it something like Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood: The Video Nasty Edition! Market it with the consumer knowing full well that the video on the newly inserted footage will not look as good as the footage that has been preserved over the years, but this is as good as it is going to get. I think it can be done.

If what's already on disc is the best it can look, then this wouldn't work. The quality is just unacceptable. Maybe in 10 years, it can recreated in CGI and re-inserted into the film cheaply and seamlessly enough.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Originally Posted by Rich1983

Years ago, Anchor Bay released an Army of Darkness DVD called The Official Bootleg Edition (and later included it in the DVD Boomstick Edition). This was an extended version of Army of Darkness with an alternate ending. The extended footage was kind of raw in some places. It was plainly obvious that it was spliced back into the film and have not been treated in years, yet they still released the cut. I think that if they did it for Army of Darkness, they can do it for The New Blood. Call it something like Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood: The Video Nasty Edition! Market it with the consumer knowing full well that the video on the newly inserted footage will not look as good as the footage that has been preserved over the years, but this is as good as it is going to get. I think it can be done.

Yeah, that was the same as the 2-disc LE dvd where they had to use to beat to shit print on some of the director's cut. A beat to shit print can be cleaned to an extent, a VHS can do far less. It was also for dvd, so the quality jump wasn't as jarring as it would be on a nice HD scan.

Plus, all that footage was never lost. MGM had a nice dvd out somewhere overseas, either Korea or Hong Kong, which had the footage from a good source. Then they got the good source for the blu-ray set.

From all I have read about the Friday footage, Paramount has let many people in to look for it, and no one has ever been able to locate it. This has caused them to claim it lost forever, but the same shit happened with My Bloody Valentine and that footage re-surfaced 20some years later where it wasn't supposed to be. Sadly, I'm sure Friday was looked for much more vigorously and diligently so it very well might be gone. I'm hoping some disgruntled ex-employee made off with it and will either put it on the market (doubtful, the time to strike at that would've been when Scream was preparing the boxset) or it will surface when they die and someone goes through his or her shit.

[Jay H.]

For me, The New Blood is the second-worst of the series. John Carl Buechler was a poor makeup effects artist and a worse director. No amount of edited gore can make this a watchable movie.

In a series filled with nonsense, this movie has two of the most nonsensical issues of all: how is a long-dead, buried underwater guy with his spine exposed also bulked-up and not emaciated? And, why is a dead guy breathing so hard?

[DR Herbert West]

I don't even watch 7 & 8 anymore.

[DaylightsEnd]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

I don't even watch 7 & 8 anymore.

Pretty much this. I'll start 7 as a curiosity piece just to revisit it, because it does have some cool woodsy atmosphere. But if I'm in the wrong mood to tolerate it, it becomes an eye-rolling brain-sucking slog that loses my interest pretty fast. 8 never even makes it to the player.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

For me, The New Blood is the second-worst of the series. John Carl Buechler was a poor makeup effects artist and a worse director. No amount of edited gore can make this a watchable movie.

In a series filled with nonsense, this movie has two of the most nonsensical issues of all: how is a long-dead, buried underwater guy with his spine exposed also bulked-up and not emaciated? And, why is a dead guy breathing so hard?

While being a director was not his biggest attribute, don't you think you're being a bit harsh and exaggerating about his ability as a special fx make up artist?

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by jess1581

While being a director was not his biggest attribute, don't you think you're being a bit harsh and exaggerating about his ability as a special fx make up artist?

In my opinion, no.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by Rich1983

I think that if they did it for Army of Darkness, they can do it for The New Blood.

Unless Paramount doesn't allow it.

[Matt89]

^^^ Same.

Not only is a bad Friday film, it's a subpar slasher as well with little to no gore. The characters are some of the most annoying in the entire franchise so with (almost) all the gore cut out, it doesn't leave you with many redeeming qualities.

~Matt

[snipemonkey]

I used to be one of the New Blood haters but, having watched the box set all the way through three times since release, it's grown on me (like a fungus, LOL). I still hate all the characters except Tina and the "good hunk next door" but it finally breached my defenses and I accept it as a decent, if unexceptional, entry. Still think Jason Takes Manhattan is hot garbage. It gets worse every time I watch it.

Also, The Hills Have Eyes, Part II is a-m-a-z-i-n-g. No, I am not kidding. I adore that flick. Pure fun with great atmosphere.

[rocknblues81]

Originally Posted by snipemonkey

I used to be one of the New Blood haters but, having watched the box set all the way through three times since release, it's grown on me (like a fungus, LOL). I still hate all the characters except Tina and the "good hunk next door" but it finally breached my defenses and I accept it as a decent, if unexceptional, entry. Still think Jason Takes Manhattan is hot garbage. It gets worse every time I watch it.

Also, The Hills Have Eyes, Part II is a-m-a-z-i-n-g. No, I am not kidding. I adore that flick. Pure fun with great atmosphere.

Even Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X are better than Hills Have Eyes 2 because many of their ideas might be bad, but at least they have some ideas.

[snipemonkey]

Originally Posted by rocknblues81

Even Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X are better than Hills Have Eyes 2 because many of their ideas might be bad, but at least they have some ideas.

As long as I forget it's supposed to be a Friday the 13th movie, I really like Jason Goes to Hell.

Jason X I'm just trying to forget about, period.

"Ideas" are fine as far as it goes, but I'm an atmosphere guy. When it comes to horror movies, mood and atmosphere with zero story will get you further than an okay idea but shot like a bad SyFy channel quickie on leftover sets from 70s "Doctor Who". And a F13 movie NOT set in the woods during a thunderstorm??? Nope -- Count me out.