The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Extended Edition - November 4, 2014

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

It's literally less than 15 seconds, the biggest disappointment of BotFA by far. I still don't understand how Peter Jackson of all people could pass up the chance to have a huge bear storm in and slaughter orcs and wargs left and right, it seems like something that should be right up his alley. And after all the talk of "there'll be much more Beorn in the third film", "we're saving his bear form for the third film", "he'll be one of Weta Digital's most impressive CGI creations to date", etc.

Oh well, it is what it is I suppose. It's been confirmed there'll be more of him in the EE and I really hope it's a substantial amount of footage.

Kind of similar to George R. R. Martin in South Park. "Oh the dragons are coming, they're on their way!"

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Taikero

Bilbo: "Hey, look, a cabin with a magic Elvish deadbolt to keep evil Orcs at bay!"

Gandalf: "Oh look, ponies too!"

Thorin: "I wonder where the owner is?"

Bilbo: "Must be vacationing at his other summer home."

Entire party: *shrug* "Let's devour all this milk and honey and think nothing of it. We ain't afraid of no bears!"

Azog: "Blast these convenient Elvish safehouses and their deus ex stables of machina!"

Beorn: "I love Aspen. Wheeee who doesn't like a snowboarding bear?!"

Haha you're off to a good start

[Revan24]

I got desolation of smaug extended edition for Christmas! What are the new scenes because its been over a year since I've seen the movie in the theater.

I've notice a few new scenes
1. Beorn intro
2. political scenes with the master and Alfred
3. Thorin's dad

[Cook]

Originally Posted by Revan24

I got desolation of smaug extended edition for Christmas! What are the new scenes because its been over a year since I've seen the movie in the theater.

I've notice a few new scenes
1. Beorn intro
2. political scenes with the master and Alfred
3. Thorin's dad

All the changes are listed here with time stamps and pictures: http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=433504

[RIKANA]

Originally Posted by Taikero

I like the scaryness of the claw-wings better. I honestly didn't see that untill now. And I think they add that to the TE when i saw the marathon. Sonow if you excuse me i'll be playing the two films back to back.


Also has there been an word/rumor about how much longer the BOTFA EE will run. I have a feeling that i'll be longer the ROTK... minutes added back wise.

RI

[RIKANA]

Originally Posted by TheHutt

Here is one for your convenience.

PS: got one signed by Peter Jackson, Richard Armitage and Martin Freeman now.

You lucky B LOL

RI

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by RIKANA

Also has there been an word/rumor about how much longer the BOTFA EE will run. I have a feeling that i'll be longer the ROTK... minutes added back wise.

RI

Jackson estimated it will be around 30 minutes longer. Personally I kinda hope it'll be more like 40-45 minutes.

[RIKANA]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

Jackson estimated it will be around 30 minutes longer. Personally I kinda hope it'll be more like 40-45 minutes.

Sweet. thanks

RI

[Dreamliner330]

I'm working on sledging my way through the special features of Hobbit 1 EE. I find myself skipping over large swaths of prosthetic & wardrobe fittings...rather boring. Anyone have a suggested watch/skip breakdown for Smaug EE special features? (I like the bonus content, but I'd almost prefer a hour-long making-of documentary)

I watched both EE films this week followed by BOTFA, all for the first time (seen theatrical versions of first two before). I remember liking Smaug a bit better for the theatrical version, but the whole time I felt rather bored. I dunno.

Part of me wants to get BOTFA EE, part of me wants to sell off my EE's and pickup the Theatrical 3D Trilogy and another part wants to just be done with Hobbit. I dunno what to do.

I don't need action action action, but I just kept thinking 'nothings happening' throughout large parts of the films and 'oh look, more fighting' in the last. (In addition to 'Gandolf's Eagles would have made Hobbit and LOTR films a short 10 minutes'...lol)

I'd be interested to see a 4-hour cut of the whole trilogy.

[thegoat]

I remember finding the second disc of DOS's appendices much more interesting than the first. The "Smaug" and "People and Denizens" documentaries include a lot more Tolkein references and insight into the adaptations. The "Realms" section was a bit dull as it was mostly (if I remember correctly) location scouting and set design that was covered elsewhere in the bonus features. The first disc included some of this is as well, but it was more about the production process, funny stories, actor impressions, etc. The ones that made an impression on me otherwise would be anything to do with Beorn, the Barrels doc (very amusing), and whichever Laketown doc included Colbert. That was a fun moment.

[jc480]

When is the UV coded 3 movie extended version set going to be out ?!?!?!??!

[MisterKorman]

The extended cut for this film, for me, makes Desolation an absolute work of majesty, but the Wilhelm scream ruins the Gandalf sequence. I'm supposed to be worried about Gandalf, not laughing.

[gwfb5]

I know that was a really touching scene with Thrain until they used the Wilhelm scream
& totally killed it.

[frogmort]

The Wilhelm Scream Compilation - YouTube

[StingingVelvet]

Watched this tonight for the first time ever, out of the trilogy set. I quite liked it! Similar to the first movie it's a very fun ride once you accept the lighter tone compared to LotR and learn to ignore the CGI overload. I'm slowly but surely getting more used to CGI in general and liking more modern movies as a result. It's a shame the movie looks so digital and fake even when they're on location though.

Anyway, I had a good time. Legolas might be crazy overpowered but he's fun as hell to watch and the dialog with the dwarves and Bilbo is fast and entertaining. I think removed of any expectations based on the book or LotR trilogy this is a solid, fun fantasy film.

[Geoff D]

Good man. I liked the theatrical cut and I like the EE even more.

[Geoff D]

Well, I thought I did. I watched the EE last night and found it to be a bit of a slog to get through, especially the first hour. As choppy as I think the theatrical version is I like the way it mooooooves.

Just had the Five Armies EE drop on the mat, perfect timing.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Well, I thought I did. I watched the EE last night and found it to be a bit of a slog to get through, especially the first hour. As choppy as I think the theatrical version is I like the way it mooooooves.

Just had the Five Armies EE drop on the mat, perfect timing.

I completely understand where you're coming from. The extended cut turns it into a much slower film, mostly in the first hour as you said. Whether this is good or bad is of course a matter of opinion, I myself prefer it to the theatrical cut but I can understand feeling like you do. In fact, even I have a couple minor problems with it. The main one is Mirkwood; I totally appreciate that the point is to make us feel that sense of being lost, all the frustration and confusion that the characters are experiencing, and it does a good job of that, but it does drag a bit. I think the best version of this sequence would be a middle ground between the theatrical and the extended cuts.

Also, while I love spending more time with Beorn (I feel it now captures more of the spirit of the book in a wonderful way), in retrospect I wonder how much of a point there is to it when he appears for a total of 40 seconds in the Extended Edition of the third film. I love the added Thráin stuff in Dol Guldur though, that alone makes the EE for me.

[StingingVelvet]

As I've posted elsewhere a few times extended cut pacing never really bothers me. As long as I like the new scenes I never feel like more is bad. I have a high tolerance for slower pacing I guess. After I watched the EE I went to the interwebs to see what was EE footage and I liked all those scenes, so it works fine for me.

There is a scene in the LotR EEs that I dislike but I can't remember what it is off the top of my head. The only movie scene that springs to mind as a bad extension is the colony stuff at the beginning of Aliens' Special Edition cut.

I watched Spectre in the theater last week and that's a theatrical cut that needs 20-30 minutes cut out of it, just because they're bad and pointless scenes.

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

I wonder how much of a point there is to it when he appears for a total of 40 seconds in the Extended Edition of the third film.

Is it even that much? It feels like less.

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

It's been confirmed there'll be more of him in the EE and I really hope it's a substantial amount of footage.

Oh, well. At least he turns up at the funeral...