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Old 07-14-2007, 07:06 PM   #1
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hey guys,

I remember before the PS3 launch, there was talks that it was going to be region free. That didn't happen, just wondering what do you think would have happened if the ps3 was region free (talking about bluray both games and movies.)
below are links regarding the ps3 being Region free

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6146475.html

http://digitalbattle.com/2006/09/25/...s-region-free/

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl...21243&from=rss

What i was told by my cousin who lives in Turkey that he purchased a multi-system ps3 and that it is region free. i tried to search that to confirm and couldn't find anything about it.

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Old 07-14-2007, 07:39 PM   #2
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it wouldve been easier if it was region free. since companies wouldnt need to release alot of different versions for one movie/game.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:40 PM   #3
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All the games are region free

Non-US discs are region free

All discs that are region coded must be region free on all pressings after 1 year from release
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:46 PM   #4
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Hi,

For games it is region free

BD some are region coded others are not but so far they are region coded free.For example,all BD movies sold in Europe,including Turkey and Middleeast are region free and i hope they will keep that way.

I dont think so you can find PS3 region coded free,all is included in the firmware .

But till now DVD playback are still region coded and i hope will issue a firmware update in the future to be region free.
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:20 PM   #5
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Hi,

For games it is region free

BD some are region coded others are not but so far they are region coded free.For example,all BD movies sold in Europe,including Turkey and Middleeast are region free and i hope they will keep that way.

I dont think so you can find PS3 region coded free,all is included in the firmware .

But till now DVD playback are still region coded and i hope will issue a firmware update in the future to be region free.
but that only applies to multi-system ps3, right? and from the 3rd link i have put up for you to see says something about MPAA not allowing region free movies. now i know that they are trying to control piracy. but wouldn't it be easier to allow it, and less piracy will occur?

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Old 07-14-2007, 08:27 PM   #6
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Yes, no one has yet hacked Blu or PS3 for multiregion

Especially the PS3, it's rumored one of the cores does nothing but watch for mods.
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:50 PM   #7
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but that only applies to multi-system ps3, right? and from the 3rd link i have put up for you to see says something about MPAA not allowing region free movies. now i know that they are trying to control piracy. but wouldn't it be easier to allow it, and less piracy will occur?
Region coding has nothing to do with piracy controlling. It does not affect piracy at all. Region coding is for giving local theaters a chance to show the movie on theater before it's available on discs in stores.

MPAA has nothing to do with region coding.

As said:

All Blu-ray games for PS3 are region free and plays in all PS3:s.
All neutral movie studio releases are region free and play.
All Sonys movie releases in Europe are region free since spring and will continue to be.
All movie release on Blu-ray must be region free 1 year after first introduction of the movie to the Blu-ray movie (new batches of the same movie must be region free).

Region C (India, China and Russia) will most probably never be used.
Region B (Europe, Australia and Africa) will not be used so frequent and only by a minority of the studios, not at all by the majority of studios.
Region A is only used on all titles by one studio so far and that is FOX. They have started to release region free Blu-ray discs in Europe so hopefully they will also abondon the region coding in USA, atleast on catalogue titles.

All region free movies plays in all PS3:s. All games (Asian, European and American) for the PS3 plays in all PS3:s.

This is true for all Playstation 3:s around the world. Don't think where are any multi-region PS3:s available. If so I would be buying one today.

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Old 07-14-2007, 10:49 PM   #8
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Only about 70% of European BD 's are region free.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:00 PM   #9
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If the PS3 had been region free, I think there is a very good chance that we wouldn't have Disney exclusive to Blu, which would not have been a good thing. I agree region coding is a pain, but I also see the need for it from the studios perspective.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:12 PM   #11
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Although I'm in the minority region 'B' I can appreciate (that does not mean like) why this is done. In Oz movies are frequently released up to 6 moths behind the US, sometimes longer into the cinema. This means you could get the movie on Blu-ray in Oz before it's in the cinima. An example is Black Snake Moan. It will hit the Cinemas sometime in August.

To clarify a few a things
PS3 games are NOT region encoded, there is NO region system for the PS3 games.
PS2 games are region encoded and the regions are enforced on the PS3.
All Blu-ray movies are regionalised - some studios choose not to use this (Paramount & Warner) some use it for everything (Fox) others like (Sony) normally apply it to movies that are recent releases - those disc's will never become region free, a rerun will need to be done removing the region 'feature'. Others (Lionsgate) haven't got a clue and still use the DVD region system that is not compatible with Blu-ray. Mark everything as region 1, some disc's are not region encoded and some are.
The PS3 enforces the DVD regions
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:30 PM   #12
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Region coding has nothing to do with piracy controlling. It does not affect piracy at all. Region coding is for giving local theaters a chance to show the movie on theater before it's available on discs in stores.

MPAA has nothing to do with region coding.

As said:

All Blu-ray games for PS3 are region free and plays in all PS3:s.
All neutral movie studio releases are region free and play.
All Sonys movie releases in Europe are region free since spring and will continue to be.
All movie release on Blu-ray must be region free 1 year after first introduction of the movie to the Blu-ray movie (new batches of the same movie must be region free).

Region C (India, China and Russia) will most probably never be used.
Region B (Europe, Australia and Africa) will not be used so frequent and only by a minority of the studios, not at all by the majority of studios.
Region A is only used on all titles by one studio so far and that is FOX. They have started to release region free Blu-ray discs in Europe so hopefully they will also abondon the region coding in USA, atleast on catalogue titles.

All region free movies plays in all PS3:s. All games (Asian, European and American) for the PS3 plays in all PS3:s.

This is true for all Playstation 3:s around the world. Don't think where are any multi-region PS3:s available. If so I would be buying one today.
i might be wrong, so bear with me.

I have always thought the MPAA worked and continue to work harder. there goal is control whether the movie is appropriate, and fight piracy. they have always contacted theatres and informed them of techniques to fight piracy, like for example telling the movie theatre not to allow anyone with backbags in auditoriums. they even offer 500 dollars reward for managment and employees if they caught someone using a camera or taking pictures of standees, and posters. another way, if you ever went to a theatre, you will notice during the movie you will see an employee walking into the theatre looking for anything suspecious, making sure the patrons are being considerate of others, etc...

what i don't understand is that the 3rd link says that (no chance the MPAA members would allow the same for movies.) that is Region Free movies. Now i can't prove it but i do know that harry potter for example was released 3 days ago in the states, now that is not a worldwide release, but i am sure in like the middle east region and china it is already bootlegged. Region coding is a way to control what comes out where and when. so if harry potter came out on BD first then you will probably not going to be able to use in the states till the US version come out.

I appreciate your insight on the topic. again i could be wrong but i am learning. thanks.
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:13 AM   #13
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i might be wrong, so bear with me.

I have always thought the MPAA worked and continue to work harder. there goal is control whether the movie is appropriate, and fight piracy. they have always contacted theatres and informed them of techniques to fight piracy, like for example telling the movie theatre not to allow anyone with backbags in auditoriums. they even offer 500 dollars reward for managment and employees if they caught someone using a camera or taking pictures of standees, and posters. another way, if you ever went to a theatre, you will notice during the movie you will see an employee walking into the theatre looking for anything suspecious, making sure the patrons are being considerate of others, etc...

what i don't understand is that the 3rd link says that (no chance the MPAA members would allow the same for movies.) that is Region Free movies. Now i can't prove it but i do know that harry potter for example was released 3 days ago in the states, now that is not a worldwide release, but i am sure in like the middle east region and china it is already bootlegged. Region coding is a way to control what comes out where and when. so if harry potter came out on BD first then you will probably not going to be able to use in the states till the US version come out.

I appreciate your insight on the topic. again i could be wrong but i am learning. thanks.
As I said, MPAA has nothing to do with region codings. It's totaly up to the studios to decide if they want to use region coding or not (except after 1 year then it must be region free). Region coding would not have helped Harry Potter because region coding is no copy protection and will most likely only be applied to original movies, not copied. Region protected movies as well as region free movies gets copied and it's not harder to copy a region coded or a region free movie. When a pirate copy a movie he/she will most likely not put a region coding on the copy...

Both Fox and all the other studios have to release their movies region free after one year on Blu-ray if they want to continue to sell the title that have been on Blu-ray for one year. It's only the first year the movie (catalogue movie or new release) can be region coded. After on year on Blu-ray new discs must be region free.

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Old 07-16-2007, 01:16 PM   #14
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All movie release on Blu-ray must be region free 1 year after first introduction of the movie to the Blu-ray movie (new batches of the same movie must be region free).

I have seen this said 2~3 times in this forum. But were is this officially stated?
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I have seen this said 2~3 times in this forum. But were is this officially stated?
paidgeek said it. That's about as good as official it is around here.


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