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Old 11-06-2009, 09:12 PM   #1
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Question Plasma vs LED LCD upgrade

I'm wanting to upgrade my bedroom set to a bigger TV. My room has a good set of curtains which keeps my room dark so thats why i'm leaning towards Plasma but I wasn't sure about the burn in issue with plasma. Is that always going to be a problem with plasma? I'll most likely just watch TV, blu, and play PS3/360. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 11-06-2009, 10:49 PM   #2
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Burn-in isn't an issue. Unless of course you're a complete numbskull and abuse your television with a static image set on Vivid for three days. I'm guessing you're not one of those people though.

Yes, go with plasma. You'll get a better image - color accuracy, black levels, motion, etc. You'll get IR, but it's not big deal and goes away after a few minutes most of the time. As long as you use common sense, reasonable settings, and use the pixel orbiter, you'll enjoy a natural cinematic image from plasma. Enjoy.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:26 AM   #3
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Until viewing angles are no longer an issue with LED sets, I'll continue to recommend Plasma.
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:06 AM   #4
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Until viewing angles are no longer an issue with LED sets, I'll continue to recommend Plasma.
Ah! I forgot to mention viewing angles. Doh!

Yes, LCD's suck too if you're not sitting in pretty much the dead center of the viewing area. Some of the more expensive sets have compensated in different ways, but again, they cost a lot more. Plasma is the best way to go. You can get a plasma set that blows any LCD away for a fraction of the price of an LCD.
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:11 PM   #5
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what's the best Plasma for the $??
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:25 PM   #6
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what's the best Plasma for the $??
Pioneer KRP-500M.

Best display and very affordable price = Best bang for the buck.

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Old 11-07-2009, 05:17 PM   #7
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what's the best Plasma for the $??
Pioneer.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:27 AM   #8
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what's the best Plasma for the $??
What size are you looking for and what is your budget?

I agree with the others, if you just want the absolute best with no budget restrictions, the Pioneer Kuro's are the absolute best. However, if you have a more realistic budget, look at Panasonic's. They are the best for the price.
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:59 PM   #9
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well i bought that sammy 32" bout 2yrs ago for 1k with the warranty and its like half price now and i just feel bitter towards electronics now..lol I really dont wanna spend more than $1500.
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:55 PM   #10
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Thumbs up Plasma

Well, I would stick with the Panny plasmas. You can find a great deal for $1500 and under over the next couple of weeks. You'll not regret your decision.

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Old 11-08-2009, 11:23 PM   #11
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Pioneer KRP-500M.

Best display and very affordable price = Best bang for the buck.
I concur. There is absolutely no better deal than this set right now. I got mine from THIS Ebay seller. For $1600 shipped with the stand included its an excellent deal. Sign up with Bing.com and buy it using paypal and get 8% cash back. You will get the best TV money can buy for less than $1500 brand new.
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:43 AM   #12
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Well i ended up buying the samsung PN50B850. I got a killer deal on it! It was an opened item at best buy and i talked them down to $1100. The best part was when i got it home i found a scratch on the screen and i have a brand new one coming to me tomorrow : D the tv is 1.2 inches think and looks great! it'll be calibrated on next week sometime.
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Old 11-25-2009, 05:11 PM   #13
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I can’t for the life of me figure out what the fascination is with pioneer plasmas.
I don't own one, but I know what the fascination is:

Unparalleled black levels + unparalleled ANSI contrast ratio = unparalleled picture.

I believe the 2010 Panasonic panels will be surprising a lot of people with the new NeoPDPeco panels including both Viera and Kuro technology. If they're priced even better than this years it will be the panel to beat, likely the V20 series would be my guess?
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Old 11-25-2009, 05:21 PM   #14
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I had a Sony Crt kd34xbr960. I never tought any tv can match the blacks on that set. Then I saw the blacks on the Pioneer and now I'm a proud owner!
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Old 11-26-2009, 04:55 AM   #15
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Note - plasmas have a glass screen meaning that in a bright room the picture may not be the best.....

Pioneer are great if they are the top models (M and LX) the rest ain that great.

Oh some plasmas have poor filters so they look washed out during the day like lcd in a dark room...

but generally plasmas are better than LCD...
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Pioneer are great if they are the top models (M and LX) the rest ain that great.
Wrong as far as North America goes - the 720p model in 2008 bested 6 other 1080p top sets from Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, etc.
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Old 11-26-2009, 04:26 PM   #17
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I'm wanting to upgrade my bedroom set to a bigger TV. My room has a good set of curtains which keeps my room dark so thats why i'm leaning towards Plasma but I wasn't sure about the burn in issue with plasma. Is that always going to be a problem with plasma? I'll most likely just watch TV, blu, and play PS3/360. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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Pioneer KRP-500M.

Best display and very affordable price = Best bang for the buck.
I went from a Samsung ub6000 55 led lcd in my bedroom to the pioneer 500m. You need speakers and a stand for it (unless you wall mount it). It also doesn't have a tv tuner so you need a cable or satellite box. Viewing angles aren't really much of an issue with the samsungs in most bedrooms. I was debating between the pioneer pro tvs and the samsung 55'' but my friend put the 55'' sammy led and bdp4600 on his credit card so I went that route when I wish I hadn't. I now have all pioneer equipment for my bedroom (other than the speakers).
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I don't own one, but I know what the fascination is:

Unparalleled black levels + unparalleled ANSI contrast ratio = unparalleled picture.

I believe the 2010 Panasonic panels will be surprising a lot of people with the new NeoPDPeco panels including both Viera and Kuro technology. If they're priced even better than this years it will be the panel to beat, likely the V20 series would be my guess?
thePope666,

Add to the above a plasma display's superior motion resolution. It's amazing how sometimes even the most simple, slower motion can incite blurring from LCDs - sometimes losing over half the screen resolution. Occasionally, motion blurring during slower movement is a part of the source video, but in side-by-side tests, plasma continually reveals itself superior in this arena. This is due to the limitation of pixel response/refresh time in LCD technology.

Most people don't notice the blurring, but once you see the difference, you might be swayed to go with a plasma. I have a Sony XBR4 LCD, and I am quite happy with it, but I'm looking at upgrading, and one of the Panny plasmas will likely be my next TV (as the Pioneers are just about all gone).
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Wrong as far as North America goes - the 720p model in 2008 bested 6 other 1080p top sets from Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, etc.
doesnt make sense ^^^^ you might as well list all the tv companies lol
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doesnt make sense ^^^^ you might as well list all the tv companies lol
It makes perfect sense, in NA they're all the top models, the PDP-5080FD, PDP-5020FD, 50" Elite, 50" Signature and 50" KRP-500M.

You said the rest "ain't that great" when everyone else disagrees.

I know you're not in NA, so perhaps you're talking about their LCD line available in other parts of the world...but in NA all the plasma lines from Pioneer are A+++, top of the list.
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