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BTBuck1 · 07-15-2006, 02:14 AM

Anyone know what movies are going to be DL, and or offer the VC-1 codec for sure?

I have read that some movies where noted as being DL specific such as black hawk down (anyone know of any others?). and that after the first 4 BR titles from Warner launch, all others will be VC-1 after that. But I havent been able to find a Link to any solid info, just all Forum banter.

If anyone has anything...I think this would be a cool source for info.

Thanks,
Brian

zombie · 07-15-2006, 02:39 AM

I don't believe there are any facts on this subject. All I've seen is tons of speculation.

Dr Kain · 07-15-2006, 04:44 PM

Why is WB going to use MPEG2?

BTBuck1 · 07-15-2006, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Why is WB going to use MPEG2?

allegedly, they had already produced the first four flicks in mpeg2 (probably not knowing it was going to be an issue on SL).

Then, all the hooplah over VC-1 vs. Mpeg2 on SL came about and they have decided they want to give consumers on boths sides great content.

Note,
This is all speculation until WB makes a public announcment on this.

Psiweaver · 07-15-2006, 07:40 PM

yeah no hard and fast sources but i'll ask around.

phloyd · 07-16-2006, 07:28 AM

You know, MPEG2 on SL is not necessarily an issue per se.

As some have noted in various places, the DTheater tapes which were MPEG2 look fine and many would fit nicely on a SL BD. Of course there would not be a lot of room for other things...

In any case, the point here is that the WB ones may look fine if they came from good masters and were authored well. Even with MPEG2.

Of course, they may also look substandard. Only time will tell

AV_Integrated · 07-16-2006, 05:08 PM

The only thing I have heard (rumor) is that the disc mastering authoring software is only available from Sony at this time. This software currently supports.... guess it... That's right! MPEG2. So, if this is accurate then until a company issues mastering software that supports VC-1 and/or AVC we are stuck with MPEG2.

Of course, as said above, a solid encode should look excellent and DL discs (if they exist) may give the headroom necessary for a phenomenal image.

ProvenFlipper · 07-16-2006, 08:09 PM

I was also wondering about the fact that the discs contain so many different audio tracks at times that its unreal. Why can't they take off the French PCM5.1 soundtrack, or additional DD soundtracks that are taking up space that better quality video could be using. Why can't we just have PCM 5.1 and DD that can be downsampled to PCM 2.0? What about special features? If they were in HD, sure give all the special features that could be fit onto the disc. I'm not sure if I'm alone in this, but I didn't pay $1000, to watch SD content.

vick vega · 07-17-2006, 10:30 PM

I would like to have dts and dts es

Psiweaver · 07-19-2006, 05:11 PM

I would just prefer to have the pcm 5.1 audio tracks.

zombie · 07-19-2006, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vick vega

I would like to have dts and dts es

Would you settle for DTS HD?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=2065

Psiweaver · 07-28-2006, 06:32 PM

definately as long as something can decode it.

07-15-2006, 02:14 AM	#1
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	Better codec/Dual Layer? Anyone know what movies are going to be DL, and or offer the VC-1 codec for sure? I have read that some movies where noted as being DL specific such as black hawk down (anyone know of any others?). and that after the first 4 BR titles from Warner launch, all others will be VC-1 after that. But I havent been able to find a Link to any solid info, just all Forum banter. If anyone has anything...I think this would be a cool source for info. Thanks, Brian

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07-15-2006, 02:39 AM	#2
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:864	I don't believe there are any facts on this subject. All I've seen is tons of speculation.

07-15-2006, 04:44 PM	#3
Dr Kain Banned Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Denver CO	Why is WB going to use MPEG2?

07-15-2006, 07:40 PM	#5
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	yeah no hard and fast sources but i'll ask around.

07-16-2006, 07:28 AM	#6
phloyd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2003 Location:California Trading Score:5	You know, MPEG2 on SL is not necessarily an issue per se. As some have noted in various places, the DTheater tapes which were MPEG2 look fine and many would fit nicely on a SL BD. Of course there would not be a lot of room for other things... In any case, the point here is that the WB ones may look fine if they came from good masters and were authored well. Even with MPEG2. Of course, they may also look substandard. Only time will tell

07-16-2006, 05:08 PM	#7
AV_Integrated Senior Member Member since:Jan 2005	The only thing I have heard (rumor) is that the disc mastering authoring software is only available from Sony at this time. This software currently supports.... guess it... That's right! MPEG2. So, if this is accurate then until a company issues mastering software that supports VC-1 and/or AVC we are stuck with MPEG2. Of course, as said above, a solid encode should look excellent and DL discs (if they exist) may give the headroom necessary for a phenomenal image.

07-16-2006, 08:09 PM	#8
ProvenFlipper Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:334 Blu-ray collection:900 Trading Score:1	I was also wondering about the fact that the discs contain so many different audio tracks at times that its unreal. Why can't they take off the French PCM5.1 soundtrack, or additional DD soundtracks that are taking up space that better quality video could be using. Why can't we just have PCM 5.1 and DD that can be downsampled to PCM 2.0? What about special features? If they were in HD, sure give all the special features that could be fit onto the disc. I'm not sure if I'm alone in this, but I didn't pay $1000, to watch SD content.

07-17-2006, 10:30 PM	#9
vick vega Banned Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I would like to have dts and dts es

07-19-2006, 05:11 PM	#10
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	I would just prefer to have the pcm 5.1 audio tracks.

07-28-2006, 06:32 PM	#12
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	definately as long as something can decode it.

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