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Old 11-09-2015, 09:12 AM   #1
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It's interesting to think what if the concept Halloween 3 started resonated with audience? We would have a different Halloween themed movie for Halloween 4, 5, 6 etc, with Micheal Myers' story obviously being done and dusted after Halloween 2.

Sure Myers would have still been famous with the 2 orignal films under his belt, and there may have still been a remake, but no where near to the extent as the horror icon he ended up being.

Anyway are you happy with how the franchise continued after Halloween 3 being built around Micheal Myers? or in retrospect, would you have preferred different stories altogether as the foundations for the Halloween movies in the franchise like Halloween 3 did?
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:17 AM   #2
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Old 11-09-2015, 11:22 AM   #3
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Cool thread, always liked the sequels after 3. Three was an interesting film that doesn't get the credit it should. Do prefer Myer's in the films. A Halloween spinoff series from three would have been a good idea tho. Maybe it could have been called Halloween Legends.
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Old 11-09-2015, 05:08 PM   #4
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Although most of the Halloween sequels after part 2 sucked, there was always something cool about getting a new Michael Myers story every few years or so.

It was something certain to look forward to in a world full of uncertainty.
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Who's Micheal Myers?
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:31 PM   #6
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While I do enjoy the Michael Myers sequels, in hindsight, I would have much preferred going the Halloween anthology route as I feel it could have given us something neat beyond the 'unstoppable killer'.
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While I do enjoy the Michael Myers sequels, in hindsight, I would have much preferred going the Halloween anthology route as I feel it could have given us something neat beyond the 'unstoppable killer'.
I agree. Ever since I learned about Carpenter's plans for the series I becamea bit bitter about the whole situation. Instead of possibly getting different films based on Halloween we got a bunch of lame sequels. We were getting enough of those with the Nightmare and Friday the 13th series, didn't really need a third slasher series pumping them out with the same killer.
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:43 PM   #8
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Michael Myers. We're starting to get some Halloween anthology films lately with Trick 'r Treat and Tales of Halloween.
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:46 PM   #9
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I love Halloween III as a one-off film, but Michael Myers is by far my favorite of the "Big Three" slashers (with Jason 2nd, Freddy 3rd). So, even there are some Myers-themed movies that aren't up to par I'd much prefer to have new installments of the one and only boogeyman.
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:56 PM   #10
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I love Halloween III as a one-off film, but Michael Myers is by far my favorite of the "Big Three" slashers (with Jason 2nd, Freddy 3rd). So, even there are some Myers-themed movies that aren't up to par I'd much prefer to have new installments of the one and only boogeyman.
honest question here - what makes Michael Myers your favorite?

Freddy was always my fave just because his kills were much more imaginative. Jason was interesting just as a zombie stalking the woods. but Myers, to me, always seemed really boring.
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I love the idea of this having become a Halloween-themed anthology series, it's regrettable they chickened out and went back to endlessly rehashing Michael instead. He's cool and all, and the original Halloween is one of my favorite horror movies, but his story was done by the end of the first movie and double done by the end of the second. It would've been better for the character to not be overused and better for the franchise to keep it fresh with a different story in each new installment.
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Except the Hillbillyweens humanized Michael, so he no longer represents the persona of evil incarnate. He is just a man in a mask.
Oh that's true, I just happen to like the Rob Zombie white trash hick aesthethic. It worked in H1000C and Rejects, and it works for Halloween imo. Yeah, the films have effectively nothing in common with the original, but if you're going to remake something, it sometimes doesn't hurt it for it to NOT be shot-for-shot, and to use your forte.

Besides, the "sibling" element makes more sense in Rob Zombie's films and actually has relevance to the plot beyond being a talking point, especially in Z2.

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I love the hospital setting as it is. I've heard of that idea and it does sound good too, but as I said I love the shots of Michael walking through the hospital and such. It helps that Dean Cundey, the original films cinematographer (also Halloween III) shot this film as it looks very good with those wide shots that featured so prominent in the first. I actually don't mind the whole sister thing, it gave it a nice twist although I will agree that it wasn't needed and wasn't originally intended as we all know.

Don't see how it can be one of the worst when 5, 6 and Resurrection exist. If anything it's slap bang in middle.
Fair enough. H2 for sure is in the middle, so is H3 for that matter, but that's not saying much. It's a pretty shitty franchise that happens to have an outstanding first entry. Mind you, the Producers Cut of 6 is alright too, although the normal cut of 6 is definitely a disaster.
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but if you're going to remake something, it sometimes doesn't hurt it for it to NOT be shot-for-shot, and to use your forte.
Personally, I don't get the point of remaking something that is already a masterpiece. There are hundreds of movies that are average or garbage that are in serious need of a remake. Hell, no one has yet to do a true to the book adaptation of The Island of Dr Moreau. Why not someone do that? Remake the stuff that needs to be remade.
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Personally, I don't get the point of remaking something that is already a masterpiece.
stupid children have too much money. they won't watch "lame old" movies, so you give them the same big bright shining turd and they feel better. never let a fool keep his money...
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In concerns to being an anthology series, I think the biggest mistake they made WAS making Halloween 2 the way they did. If they really wanted to stick to their guns of making it an anthology series they should have been One and Done with Myers. By giving Halloween 2 the continuing story of Myers, they gave fans more of a reason to follow him, which disappeared with 3. But I can't be sure of that cause who knows what would have happened had they gone in that direction sooner.
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In concerns to being an anthology series, I think the biggest mistake they made WAS making Halloween 2 the way they did. If they really wanted to stick to their guns of making it an anthology series they should have been One and Done with Myers. By giving Halloween 2 the continuing story of Myers, they gave fans more of a reason to follow him, which disappeared with 3. But I can't be sure of that cause who knows what would have happened had they gone in that direction sooner.
See, I don't get their thinking. Myers was killed in the second movie. He was D-E-A-D. Not to mention Carpenter stated this many times. If people thought HIII was supposed to have Myers in it then they are morons and clearly did not pay attention to anything else.
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