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blu-ray fan002 · 02-25-2008, 06:11 PM

Why don't studios put wide and full screen on 1 disc and on one side (instead of using a double sided disc) like with the unrated and "R" versions of "American Gangster"? That way people can just grab a DVD and not have to worry if they grabbed the wrong format.

95pgtproject · 02-25-2008, 06:12 PM

whats full screen?

blu-ray fan002 · 02-25-2008, 06:13 PM

trust me, I hate full screen. I'm just tired of customers coming up to me asking "Is this full or widescreen"? I've even had some customers want a refund because they grabbed the wrong format.

EvolutionCherry · 02-25-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray fan002

trust me, I hate full screen. I'm just tired of customers coming up to me asking "Is this full or widescreen"? I've even had some customers want a refund because they grabbed the wrong format.

Why can't people read the back of the disc package? I mean it states the screen format.

broganreynik · 02-25-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EvolutionCherry

Why can't people read the back of the disc package? I mean it states the screen format.

On the back of the Back to the Future Trilogy it doesn't state the screen format, and I ended up buying the fullscreen one. Boy was I pissed!

EvolutionCherry · 02-25-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by broganreynik

On the back of the Back to the Future Trilogy it doesn't state the screen format, and I ended up buying the fullscreen one. Boy was I pissed!

Ah. Sorry to hear that.

kalkin84 · 02-25-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EvolutionCherry

Why can't people read the back of the disc package? I mean it states the screen format.

and sometimes it even says on the front of the box (on the banner along the top). Look on the back, if it doesn't explicitly state the format as "wide" or "full" it will give a ration "X:Y." Anything 1.6:1 or higher is widescreen.

or this: "does this disc have DTS?"

>.<

READ PEOPLE!!

Blu-Dog · 02-25-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray fan002

trust me, I hate full screen. I'm just tired of customers coming up to me asking "Is this full or widescreen"? I've even had some customers want a refund because they grabbed the wrong format.

Just shake your head and walk away.

Canada · 02-25-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 95pgtproject

whats full screen?

Toche

chasarms · 02-25-2008, 06:20 PM

The R and unrated versions can be on the same disc because they do not have to include the parts of the film that are common to both ratings (nearly all) The only additional data on the disc is the extra footage from the other rated version. There are not two full-length files on the disc. The software is capable of seaming the version together that you want to see.

I don't really get all the chatter about OAR. I have a button on my remote that zooms any wide screen picture to full screen instantly. I don't often watch that way, but it's pretty easy to push a button.

lildawgryan · 02-25-2008, 06:24 PM

This would make sense its just a little late. Havent we moved on to high definition where wide is full?

chasarms · 02-25-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lildawgryan

This would make sense its just a little late. Havent we moved on to high definition where wide is full?

I think the OP is about the BDs that are presented in the original aspect ratio on the disc. For example, POTC, Pearl Harbor, The Patriot, etc. (Those are the ones off the top of my head that I own) Those films display black bars at the top and bottom of the screen.

I believe the poster wants a version of the film pre-cropped to 16:9 available on the same disc. Although, I'm not you could get both on the same disc without compression.

Hypnopooper · 02-25-2008, 06:21 PM

Geez, its only been two days since the last topic like this was locked down. Is this what we have to look forward to since we are no longe "early adopters"?

BStecke · 02-25-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray fan002

Why don't studios put wide and full screen on 1 disc and on one side (instead of using a double sided disc) like with the unrated and "R" versions of "American Gangster"? That way people can just grab a DVD and not have to worry if they grabbed the wrong format.

Because I and others don't want to have video that is half the quality/double the space to accommodate two encodes that a majority of people are never going to use. "Full screen," hopefully, is a thing of the past.

The Unrated/Rated cut could probably be handled through seamless branching.

MouseRider · 02-25-2008, 06:23 PM

They tried this a while back with double-sided DVDs, it didn't catch on.

I think there's going to be very few people who will use a pan-scan version if they appreciate OAR, so it would be unnecessarily increasing the cost of the package by putting in a pan-scan version in.

The industry and people should stop using the term "full-screen" because if you have a 16:9 HDTV, full screen is a totally different concept.

blu-backer · 02-25-2008, 06:28 PM

DVD? We're talkin' 'bout DVD? <in attemped Allen Iverson voice>

kpkelley · 02-25-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-backer

DVD? We're talkin' 'bout DVD? <in attemped Allen Iverson voice>

Not a Blu-ray. N n n not a Blu-ray. We're talkin' 'bout DVD!!! <also in attempted Allen Iverson voice>

How you gonna pay for that?

Straight cash homey. <Not Iverson, but sill one of my favorites.>

blu-backer · 02-25-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kpkelley

Not a Blu-ray. N n n not a Blu-ray. We're talkin' 'bout DVD!!! <also in attempted Allen Iverson voice>

How you gonna pay for that?

Straight cash homey. <Not Iverson, but sill one of my favorites.>

lol

Kristin Simard · 02-25-2008, 07:42 PM

I want studios to release Blu-rays with only 20% of the picture of the original film blown up to full screen. And they should take that 20% from the lower left hand corner of the original frame. They should at least have this as an option.

Gamma_Winstead · 02-25-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray fan002

Why don't studios put wide and full screen on 1 disc and on one side (instead of using a double sided disc) like with the unrated and "R" versions of "American Gangster"? That way people can just grab a DVD and not have to worry if they grabbed the wrong format.

Jesus. You call your self a Blu-ray fan. Just lock this thread and suspend. This is the sixth thread in a week! I am so sick of it!

02-25-2008, 06:11 PM	#1
blu-ray fan002 Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Texas	two versions on one disc Why don't studios put wide and full screen on 1 disc and on one side (instead of using a double sided disc) like with the unrated and "R" versions of "American Gangster"? That way people can just grab a DVD and not have to worry if they grabbed the wrong format.

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02-25-2008, 06:12 PM	#2
95pgtproject Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:210 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:21	whats full screen?

02-25-2008, 06:13 PM	#3
blu-ray fan002 Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Texas	trust me, I hate full screen. I'm just tired of customers coming up to me asking "Is this full or widescreen"? I've even had some customers want a refund because they grabbed the wrong format.

02-25-2008, 06:20 PM	#10
chasarms Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:St. Louis Blu-ray reviews: 1	The R and unrated versions can be on the same disc because they do not have to include the parts of the film that are common to both ratings (nearly all) The only additional data on the disc is the extra footage from the other rated version. There are not two full-length files on the disc. The software is capable of seaming the version together that you want to see. I don't really get all the chatter about OAR. I have a button on my remote that zooms any wide screen picture to full screen instantly. I don't often watch that way, but it's pretty easy to push a button.

02-25-2008, 06:24 PM	#11
lildawgryan Active Member Member since:Dec 2007	This would make sense its just a little late. Havent we moved on to high definition where wide is full?

02-25-2008, 06:21 PM	#13
Hypnopooper Member Member since:Nov 2007	Geez, its only been two days since the last topic like this was locked down. Is this what we have to look forward to since we are no longe "early adopters"?

02-25-2008, 06:23 PM	#15
MouseRider Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	They tried this a while back with double-sided DVDs, it didn't catch on. I think there's going to be very few people who will use a pan-scan version if they appreciate OAR, so it would be unnecessarily increasing the cost of the package by putting in a pan-scan version in. The industry and people should stop using the term "full-screen" because if you have a 16:9 HDTV, full screen is a totally different concept.

02-25-2008, 06:28 PM	#16
blu-backer Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:118	DVD? We're talkin' 'bout DVD? <in attemped Allen Iverson voice>

02-25-2008, 07:42 PM	#19
Kristin Simard Special Member Member since:Aug 2007	I want studios to release Blu-rays with only 20% of the picture of the original film blown up to full screen. And they should take that 20% from the lower left hand corner of the original frame. They should at least have this as an option.

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