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Blu Blur · 06-08-2008, 03:43 PM

OK everyone I don't know if this is posted here or not (frankly the more posts the better) As a long time supporter or the Playstation brand I feel that Sony is ignoring the Japanese RPG fans out there. We have heard nothing as far as new announcements in this genre in a very long time and with very few games in this category even being in development I think it's high time Sony start thinking about getting more support. Developers like Namco Bandai are being swayed by Microsofts big pockets with titles like Eternal Sonata and Tales of Vesperia being put exclusively on their platform. Though this is not just Namco, Square Enix is also giving more support elsewhere then the Playstation brand. This is a bad sign and, something that needs to be addressed ASAP.

Final Fantasy 7 shaped and pushed the PSone to where it is today and many of us who bought a Playstation did so for the JRPG's that at one time Playstation was synonymous with. I do not plan to ever own another of those "other" consoles from Brand X for numerous reasons based on my experiences, though they seem more interested in taking care of the JRPG fans then Sony does. It's time Sony realize that they will continue to loose sales in this area if it continues, we don't need any more First Person Shooters the Halo phenomenon is limited to that series and dumping money into more games like that to try and play "me too!" with Microsoft is a big mistake. Playstation is known from having a variety of software including a very healthy RPG selection, and I would hope Sony would want those fans to buy a PS3. I realize that RPG's take a huge amount of time to develop but, some announcements would be nice so that RPG fans could know that at least more then 2 games were in development, and that Sony is willing to show that the Playstation Brand is the "go to" for RPG fans.

Below you will find a link to an online petition that I would ask all RPG fans to sign. Regardless of how useless you think online petitions are I would still ask you to sign and post the link as many places as possible. Even posting here will gather attention to this so I hope this message reaches those within these boards who care and that Sony acknowledges that they have not forgotten us.

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=144214 LINK TO PETITION

Ice2Dragon · 06-08-2008, 03:45 PM

Folklore, Enchanted Arms were great games -_-V

shido · 06-08-2008, 03:49 PM

Eternal Sonata is being ported to PS3 too. So Tales of Vesperia may be time exclusive as well, since Namco would have to be crazy to ignore the PS3 market with one of their biggest franchises - especially considering how poorly the 360 is doing in Japan.

Drew664 · 06-08-2008, 03:52 PM

When is Eternal Sonata coming to the PS3? I've heard good things about it.

AliceT · 06-08-2008, 03:53 PM

I think RPG's have kinda gone into a down period as far as popularity. Same thing happened about a year or so before ff7 came out. Genres come and go, and then come again. I wouldnt mind seeing a really good one though come out, kinda of an old school one would be real nice.

blitz6speed · 06-08-2008, 03:57 PM

Its funny that the 360 has way more JRPG's the the PS3 at the time, but thats because microsoft has been passing the moneyhat in japan to whoever will take it. They wont get the RPG's that matter tho, like Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts. They are just getting the left overs. So while they do have some good JRPG's atm, the ones that actually matter will never be on the 360.

Barnum · 06-10-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blitz6speed

Its funny that the 360 has way more JRPG's the the PS3 at the time, but thats because microsoft has been passing the moneyhat in japan to whoever will take it. They wont get the RPG's that matter tho, like Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts. They are just getting the left overs. So while they do have some good JRPG's atm, the ones that actually matter will never be on the 360.

I would not go as far as to say never. Never is a mighty long time and money can change anything.

Giyomu · 06-10-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

Its funny that the 360 has way more JRPG's the the PS3 at the time, but thats because microsoft has been passing the moneyhat in japan to whoever will take it. They wont get the RPG's that matter tho, like Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts. They are just getting the left overs. So while they do have some good JRPG's atm, the ones that actually matter will never be on the 360.

guess you were wrong because Star Ocean 4 is one of a hell best rpg series ever

JaylisJayP · 06-16-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blitz6speed

Its funny that the 360 has way more JRPG's the the PS3 at the time, but thats because microsoft has been passing the moneyhat in japan to whoever will take it. They wont get the RPG's that matter tho, like Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts. They are just getting the left overs. So while they do have some good JRPG's atm, the ones that actually matter will never be on the 360.

50 leftovers is better than 3 prime ribs....3 prime ribs that still aren't served yet.

I say that as an owner of both systems and a huge fan of all RPGs in general. You can't really knock the 360 at this point when compared to the PS3 in this area.

And a few of those "leftovers" have proven to be very enjoyable.

Blu Blur · 06-08-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

Folklore, Enchanted Arms were great games -_-V

Folklore was not a real JRPG more of an action game. Enchanted Arms......well for many reasons I did not pick that one up. Still the reality here is that traditional JRPG's are severely lacking on the PS3 and where beter to make noise then the internet. Outside of Final Fantasy XIII and white Knight and Disgaea 3 PS3 has had little to notihng in the way of new game announcements as far as JRPG's go. This is an important genre for me as a gamer, imagine if PS3 only had one or two FPS's most would not be able to stand it. This is not the case however as the PS3 is home to far too many FPS games and while some are great this is a Playstation not an Xbox, so I want some new RPG's to get excited for dag nabbit!

hd-dvd H8ter · 06-08-2008, 03:49 PM

OK, I would prefer western RPG's i.e Oblivion, but Japanese ones are good too.
I do agree about the lack of PS3 titles out there for the genre.
It was the same story on the PS2, so why let it happen again.
Come on Sony! Come on third party developers!

Signed: hd-dvd h8ter

Blu Blur · 06-08-2008, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shido

Eternal Sonata is being ported to PS3 too. So Tales of Vesperia may be time exclusive as well, since Namco would have to be crazy to ignore the PS3 market with one of their biggest franchises - especially considering how poorly the 360 is doing in Japan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew664

When is Eternal Sonata coming to the PS3? I've heard good things about it.

According to Namco Bandai Eternal Sonata will not be releasing for PS3 outside of Japan.

Link to recent Article

AliceT · 06-08-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu Blur

According to Namco Bandai Eternal Sonata will not be releasing for PS3 outside of Japan.

Link to recent Article

Thats too bad, Eternal Sonata was pretty good.

Rapstah · 06-08-2008, 04:40 PM

Thank you region free PS3.

crazybat_07 · 06-08-2008, 04:49 PM

Yes, the PS3 needs more rpg(s) and Sony should open up they're pocket and get Square Enix & Namco as exclusives.

signed

Shin-Ra · 06-08-2008, 05:42 PM

"No Plans" For NA Release "At The Moment" and "not releasing" the game are two very different statements. Especially if there's a time exclusivity deal in place.

Marquoz · 06-08-2008, 05:45 PM

I had noticed RPGs as a genre have been dying slowly, for the computer there used to be tons of different party based RPGs (Might and Magic (haven't seen a new one), Wizardry (gone probably forever), D&D gold box (went to the Baldur's Gate, and think those are still churning out). Now it seems like everything is going to the one character first person view hack and slash RPG, which I myself can't stand. I switched more to console gaming to get the party based RPGs, and on the PS2, there were tons of them, some of which excelled, and others that didn't. The Mana series, Star Ocean, Final Fantasy, Legend of Dragoon, and tons more that I picked up randomly.

The PS3 seems to have been seriously lacking in this field lately, and I hope the sales of the upcoming RPGs make developers notice, that while yes, it's not as popular as GTA, or Halo that it is STILL a strong market force.

MOONPHASE · 06-10-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu Blur

According to Namco Bandai Eternal Sonata will not be releasing for PS3 outside of Japan.

Link to recent Article

of course Japan has so many good rpgs that wont come to the u.s. and here in america we are stuck with the lame 360 version

Marine Mike · 06-10-2008, 01:45 PM

RPGs are fun, but are now lame because of all the Multiplayer-Only ones that take over your life and leave you a shell of a person.

What ever happened to RPGs that were solid Non-Multiplayer?

FF Tactics or FF VII?

Mouse · 06-10-2008, 01:56 PM

While I too love RPG games, you people need to understand it takes longer to make a good RPG game than just about any other game. I think it took Bethesda something like 5+ years to make Oblivion. If we could just get five really good companies to put in 5 years for each RPG then we could have one great RPG a year... instead we get like two every 5 years that's even worth a crap.

Even Final Fantasy has betrayed the core reason we even play RPGs. The storyline. If we wanted action & graphics then we'd play Halo or Half-Life 2 or some other similar FPS game. We need more Turn-based RPGs with an awesome story and 100+ hours of gameplay. Graphics should be an after thought. Music is also very important for setting the mood.

My point is, we don't need quantity.. we need quality. A truely awesome RPG should last you several months if you take your time and do every little side quest and gather every single item possible.

06-08-2008, 03:43 PM	#1
Blu Blur Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:USA, greatest country on earth. PSN: TheBanditKing Blu-ray reviews:1	PS3 and it's lack of RPG's. Read and Sign OK everyone I don't know if this is posted here or not (frankly the more posts the better) As a long time supporter or the Playstation brand I feel that Sony is ignoring the Japanese RPG fans out there. We have heard nothing as far as new announcements in this genre in a very long time and with very few games in this category even being in development I think it's high time Sony start thinking about getting more support. Developers like Namco Bandai are being swayed by Microsofts big pockets with titles like Eternal Sonata and Tales of Vesperia being put exclusively on their platform. Though this is not just Namco, Square Enix is also giving more support elsewhere then the Playstation brand. This is a bad sign and, something that needs to be addressed ASAP. Final Fantasy 7 shaped and pushed the PSone to where it is today and many of us who bought a Playstation did so for the JRPG's that at one time Playstation was synonymous with. I do not plan to ever own another of those "other" consoles from Brand X for numerous reasons based on my experiences, though they seem more interested in taking care of the JRPG fans then Sony does. It's time Sony realize that they will continue to loose sales in this area if it continues, we don't need any more First Person Shooters the Halo phenomenon is limited to that series and dumping money into more games like that to try and play "me too!" with Microsoft is a big mistake. Playstation is known from having a variety of software including a very healthy RPG selection, and I would hope Sony would want those fans to buy a PS3. I realize that RPG's take a huge amount of time to develop but, some announcements would be nice so that RPG fans could know that at least more then 2 games were in development, and that Sony is willing to show that the Playstation Brand is the "go to" for RPG fans. Below you will find a link to an online petition that I would ask all RPG fans to sign. Regardless of how useless you think online petitions are I would still ask you to sign and post the link as many places as possible. Even posting here will gather attention to this so I hope this message reaches those within these boards who care and that Sony acknowledges that they have not forgotten us. http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=144214 LINK TO PETITION

06-08-2008, 03:49 PM	#11
hd-dvd H8ter Junior Member Member since:Jun 2008	RPG Neglect OK, I would prefer western RPG's i.e Oblivion, but Japanese ones are good too. I do agree about the lack of PS3 titles out there for the genre. It was the same story on the PS2, so why let it happen again. Come on Sony! Come on third party developers! Signed: hd-dvd h8ter

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06-08-2008, 03:45 PM	#2
Ice2Dragon Power Member Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:9	Folklore, Enchanted Arms were great games -_-V

06-08-2008, 03:49 PM	#3
shido Active Member Member since:Aug 2006	Eternal Sonata is being ported to PS3 too. So Tales of Vesperia may be time exclusive as well, since Namco would have to be crazy to ignore the PS3 market with one of their biggest franchises - especially considering how poorly the 360 is doing in Japan.

06-08-2008, 03:52 PM	#4
Drew664 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:South Dakota Home Theater Gallery:28 Blu-ray collection:68	When is Eternal Sonata coming to the PS3? I've heard good things about it.

06-08-2008, 03:53 PM	#5
AliceT Banned Member since:Mar 2008 Location:PSN ID- damreg1022	I think RPG's have kinda gone into a down period as far as popularity. Same thing happened about a year or so before ff7 came out. Genres come and go, and then come again. I wouldnt mind seeing a really good one though come out, kinda of an old school one would be real nice.

06-08-2008, 03:57 PM	#6
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	Its funny that the 360 has way more JRPG's the the PS3 at the time, but thats because microsoft has been passing the moneyhat in japan to whoever will take it. They wont get the RPG's that matter tho, like Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts. They are just getting the left overs. So while they do have some good JRPG's atm, the ones that actually matter will never be on the 360.

06-08-2008, 04:40 PM	#14
Rapstah Active Member Member since:Mar 2008	Thank you region free PS3.

06-08-2008, 04:49 PM	#15
crazybat_07 Active Member Member since:Apr 2008	Yes, the PS3 needs more rpg(s) and Sony should open up they're pocket and get Square Enix & Namco as exclusives. signed

06-08-2008, 05:42 PM	#16
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	"No Plans" For NA Release "At The Moment" and "not releasing" the game are two very different statements. Especially if there's a time exclusivity deal in place.

06-08-2008, 05:45 PM	#17
Marquoz Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:New Orleans Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:167 Trading Score:2	I had noticed RPGs as a genre have been dying slowly, for the computer there used to be tons of different party based RPGs (Might and Magic (haven't seen a new one), Wizardry (gone probably forever), D&D gold box (went to the Baldur's Gate, and think those are still churning out). Now it seems like everything is going to the one character first person view hack and slash RPG, which I myself can't stand. I switched more to console gaming to get the party based RPGs, and on the PS2, there were tons of them, some of which excelled, and others that didn't. The Mana series, Star Ocean, Final Fantasy, Legend of Dragoon, and tons more that I picked up randomly. The PS3 seems to have been seriously lacking in this field lately, and I hope the sales of the upcoming RPGs make developers notice, that while yes, it's not as popular as GTA, or Halo that it is STILL a strong market force.

06-10-2008, 01:45 PM	#19
Marine Mike The Busey Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:120 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:4	RPGs are fun, but are now lame because of all the Multiplayer-Only ones that take over your life and leave you a shell of a person. What ever happened to RPGs that were solid Non-Multiplayer? FF Tactics or FF VII?

06-10-2008, 01:56 PM	#20
Mouse Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Texas, USA Blu-ray collection:83 DVD collection:116 Trading Score:1	While I too love RPG games, you people need to understand it takes longer to make a good RPG game than just about any other game. I think it took Bethesda something like 5+ years to make Oblivion. If we could just get five really good companies to put in 5 years for each RPG then we could have one great RPG a year... instead we get like two every 5 years that's even worth a crap. Even Final Fantasy has betrayed the core reason we even play RPGs. The storyline. If we wanted action & graphics then we'd play Halo or Half-Life 2 or some other similar FPS game. We need more Turn-based RPGs with an awesome story and 100+ hours of gameplay. Graphics should be an after thought. Music is also very important for setting the mood. My point is, we don't need quantity.. we need quality. A truely awesome RPG should last you several months if you take your time and do every little side quest and gather every single item possible.

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