Who Has BluRay and HD DVD Players? - Blu-ray Forum

jmmartin · 01-30-2007, 05:37 PM

I have a Samsung BDP 1000 and I am thinking about getting an HD DVD player as well. What are the feelings of this and did anybody else do so? There are a lot of titles that I would like on HD but not Blu Ray and with what I read about Warner would it be worth it? Unversial still has no Blu Ray Titles and They have some good HD Titles!!

Thanks

Jason

Zvi · 01-30-2007, 06:36 PM

I used ot have HD A1. Got sick of constant problems.
I would still buy a good HD DVD player but given their pending TL disc approval which will render curent players obsolete why bother.

WilliamC · 01-30-2007, 06:39 PM

I have them both. The toshiba is an excellent player. I haven't had many of the issues others have complained about. I tend to prefer blu-ray PQ though, as at least to me its more film like. VC-1 looks too polished and somewhat soft imho.

ClaytonMG · 01-30-2007, 06:53 PM

I have the HD-A1... Nothing but problems with it. At first everything was fine on it (aside from not displaying all colors/whites/blacks through the HDMI output and component actually looking much better). Then with Universal's Van Helsing, the player started freezing up until a firmware upgrade was released... Then Paramount's movies started freezing up and I had to wait for a firmware upgrade again. Now sometimes Universal movies will jump and audio wont match the picture. However Toshiba wont be releasing anymore firmware upgrades so I am pretty much stuck with this. I tried watching Meet The Parents the other day... The audio was about a second behind the picture. Same thing happens with Miami Vice... I hear the new HD-DVD players have the exact same problems.

bruce · 01-30-2007, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamC

I have them both. The toshiba is an excellent player. I haven't had many of the issues others have complained about.

The same for me, I have two A1s and never a problem and I love having it as much as my PS3, and now that Warner might not be putting certain movies out on Blu Ray ( Matrix,Harry Potters, etc ) and the Universal films ( and they just added a few more to come out this year like Jurrasic Park and a few others ) makes me happy I have both formats.

gmoney · 01-30-2007, 07:19 PM

I've got both an HD-A1 and a BDP-S1. Love 'em both and haven't had any issues whatsoever (besides badly scratched rental discs skipping- but that not really a player problem)

bferr1 · 01-30-2007, 07:21 PM

DMP-BD10 and HD-A2 in my set-up.

BostonHD22 · 01-30-2007, 07:23 PM

HEY JMMARTIN, yeah i am going to have both. i have the toshiba hd-a2 and its really good AND AND AND I ORDERED THE SAME PLAYER YOU HAVE: THE SAMSUNG BD-P1000. i was wondering how the samsung 1000 is cause i ordered it off amazon and its coming in the mail. is it a good player

HD4me · 01-30-2007, 08:33 PM

I have an HD-DVD player an am selling it to buy a PS3 for the BluRay features.

HD-DVD is great, but trying to find a few good movies isn't easy. Most of the best movies on HD-DVD are also on BlueRay, whereas tons of BluRay movies I see that I love aren't on HD-DVD and won't be.

The best looking HD-DVD I have seen is Hulk (2003), and King Kong is OK but it's way too long.

dvdguru · 01-31-2007, 01:40 AM

I have the Panasonic and the Toshiba players and both have been flawless for me. I've had the toshiba since 4/18 and the Panasonic since 11/06 and love both

jmmartin · 01-31-2007, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonHD22

HEY JMMARTIN, yeah i am going to have both. i have the toshiba hd-a2 and its really good AND AND AND I ORDERED THE SAME PLAYER YOU HAVE: THE SAMSUNG BD-P1000. i was wondering how the samsung 1000 is cause i ordered it off amazon and its coming in the mail. is it a good player

The BDP1000 looks great on my 1080Pm display, I ordered an HD-A2 today so cross my fingers for no problems. My Brother just ordered an LG BH100!!

coolmilo · 01-31-2007, 02:03 AM

I don't have HD DVD and don't want one. I prefer that everyone support one format and force the other to die. I researched both formats during 06 and concluded that Blu-ray is the way to go. At fist I thought that HD DVD would win because they had the early momentum and the first Samsung Blu-ray player was junk (at least until it was patched). But then I read an article from two senior managers from Sony and Pioneer and decided to wait and see what Sony and Pioneer released. The early reviews were much better and at the end of the year it seemed that Blu-ray got their act together. The movies keep getting better (PQ/SQ) and so at this point I am pleased with my decision. Everyone knows what happened at CES too.

My feeling is that as long as Disney remains Blu-ray only and the players and movies keep improving then it will be game over for HD DVD. After all, a very large consumer base for home movie products are soccer moms and they all want Disney titles. Also Disney = Apple now (in a way) and so Steve Jobs will try his best to keep Disney Blu. Is this becomming a Microsoft - Apple war?

As early adopters we are all taking a chance and are paying a premium to enjoy the next generation technology today. Eventually we will be repurchasing our favorite titles as better quality versions are released like we do/did with DVD. I have a couple copies of all of my favorite movies in SD because of the constant improvement in technology. So if HD DVD ends up losing the war then those early adopters can repurchase their HD DVD titles in Blu-ray like we all do/did with SD movies. At the end of the day we all win with this awesome technology.

I just want this silly war to end already.

paulca · 01-31-2007, 03:49 PM

I won the Samsung and a PS 3 and also the Toshiba HDDVD they all seem to work great.

BTBuck1 · 01-31-2007, 04:10 PM

If you have an xbox360 you can't really Go wrong with the HDDVD add on. If you don't, i'd suggest just doing without. The Toshiba players, while providing fabulous PQ and standard def upconversion....are just way to buggy and it's too much of a caveat to overlook. You have to be a very patient and diehard HD fan/Uber early adopter to be able to live with these things. I have only kept my HD-A1 because I have a reliable playback device for HDDVD in my 360 and I know I won't get dirt for it...plus it's a damned good reg DVD player.

BTBuck1 · 01-31-2007, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulca

I won the Samsung and a PS 3 and also the Toshiba HDDVD they all seem to work great.

how did you win them

jmmartin · 01-31-2007, 05:04 PM

Well thanks for some of the input. I agree that consumers should pick one format and stick with it. But here lies the problem. I read and read and then I read some more on the 2 formats and decided that I would go with BluRay which I am very happy with. But I a lot of SD titles I like are not coming to BD because of the Movie Studios not backing both formats for the time being. So this poses a problem for me. Movies like The Fast and The Furious Trilogy are not going to be offered BluRay and Now they are saying Matrix and Harry Potter are HD DVD only. I do not have a PS3 or an Xbox 360 to fall back on, my children are a little younger and they are preferring the Wii for the time being. So I decided to go with a HD-A2 to compliment the BDP 1000. But after I bought I read some very disturbing info that it will not output 1080i because the HDMI software is all screwed up. So I call Toshiba and they say well hook it to the internet and download the update. I said no problem does it need to be hooked to the TV to do that and they said yes. Well how am I going to that when the room were the player is there is no Internet!!! They said we will send you a disc in a couple of weeks, So I have a $500 dollar 480P DVD player

No Samsung did there updates so that they could be downloaded and burnt to disc, I think that is great. I know this is a blu ray forum but anybody else experience this problem with the HD-A2? If so how did you fix it?

So strike one for the HD DVD camp in my book!! I guess I will be watching BluRay for awhile, which I guess is not so bad

theknub · 01-31-2007, 05:14 PM

don't worry about matrix and the hp movies. they are controlled by warner which is a neutral format. the rumor is that the matrix trilogy is ready to go for hd-dvd but they are holding off till some bd-j stuff is worked out so they can release both at the same time.

tim459 · 01-31-2007, 05:47 PM

I have the Toshiba HD-XA1 and the Philips BDP9000. I've had very few problems with either one of them. Just lucky, I guess.

divedude · 02-01-2007, 01:18 AM

I have both the BD10 and the A2 and enjoy both. It is great being able to watch HD movies regardless of which format they come out on.

movies3 · 02-01-2007, 05:01 PM

dont worry harry potter and the matrix will be out on bluray in no time.

01-30-2007, 05:37 PM	#1
jmmartin New Member Member since:Jan 2007	Who Has BluRay and HD DVD Players? I have a Samsung BDP 1000 and I am thinking about getting an HD DVD player as well. What are the feelings of this and did anybody else do so? There are a lot of titles that I would like on HD but not Blu Ray and with what I read about Warner would it be worth it? Unversial still has no Blu Ray Titles and They have some good HD Titles!! Thanks Jason

01-31-2007, 02:03 AM	#12
coolmilo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	I don't have HD DVD and don't want one. I prefer that everyone support one format and force the other to die. I researched both formats during 06 and concluded that Blu-ray is the way to go. At fist I thought that HD DVD would win because they had the early momentum and the first Samsung Blu-ray player was junk (at least until it was patched). But then I read an article from two senior managers from Sony and Pioneer and decided to wait and see what Sony and Pioneer released. The early reviews were much better and at the end of the year it seemed that Blu-ray got their act together. The movies keep getting better (PQ/SQ) and so at this point I am pleased with my decision. Everyone knows what happened at CES too. My feeling is that as long as Disney remains Blu-ray only and the players and movies keep improving then it will be game over for HD DVD. After all, a very large consumer base for home movie products are soccer moms and they all want Disney titles. Also Disney = Apple now (in a way) and so Steve Jobs will try his best to keep Disney Blu. Is this becomming a Microsoft - Apple war? As early adopters we are all taking a chance and are paying a premium to enjoy the next generation technology today. Eventually we will be repurchasing our favorite titles as better quality versions are released like we do/did with DVD. I have a couple copies of all of my favorite movies in SD because of the constant improvement in technology. So if HD DVD ends up losing the war then those early adopters can repurchase their HD DVD titles in Blu-ray like we all do/did with SD movies. At the end of the day we all win with this awesome technology. I just want this silly war to end already. Last edited by coolmilo; 01-31-2007 at 02:07 AM.

01-31-2007, 03:49 PM	#13
paulca Active Member Member since:Sep 2006	I also have both formats I won the Samsung and a PS 3 and also the Toshiba HDDVD they all seem to work great.

01-31-2007, 04:10 PM	#14
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	If you have an xbox360 you can't really Go wrong with the HDDVD add on. If you don't, i'd suggest just doing without. The Toshiba players, while providing fabulous PQ and standard def upconversion....are just way to buggy and it's too much of a caveat to overlook. You have to be a very patient and diehard HD fan/Uber early adopter to be able to live with these things. I have only kept my HD-A1 because I have a reliable playback device for HDDVD in my 360 and I know I won't get dirt for it...plus it's a damned good reg DVD player. Last edited by BTBuck1; 01-31-2007 at 04:14 PM.

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01-30-2007, 06:36 PM	#2
Zvi Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Blu-ray collection:121	I used ot have HD A1. Got sick of constant problems. I would still buy a good HD DVD player but given their pending TL disc approval which will render curent players obsolete why bother.

01-30-2007, 06:39 PM	#3
WilliamC Junior Member Member since:Jan 2007	I have them both. The toshiba is an excellent player. I haven't had many of the issues others have complained about. I tend to prefer blu-ray PQ though, as at least to me its more film like. VC-1 looks too polished and somewhat soft imho.

01-30-2007, 06:53 PM	#4
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I have the HD-A1... Nothing but problems with it. At first everything was fine on it (aside from not displaying all colors/whites/blacks through the HDMI output and component actually looking much better). Then with Universal's Van Helsing, the player started freezing up until a firmware upgrade was released... Then Paramount's movies started freezing up and I had to wait for a firmware upgrade again. Now sometimes Universal movies will jump and audio wont match the picture. However Toshiba wont be releasing anymore firmware upgrades so I am pretty much stuck with this. I tried watching Meet The Parents the other day... The audio was about a second behind the picture. Same thing happens with Miami Vice... I hear the new HD-DVD players have the exact same problems.

01-30-2007, 07:19 PM	#6
gmoney New Member Member since:Dec 2006	I've got both an HD-A1 and a BDP-S1. Love 'em both and haven't had any issues whatsoever (besides badly scratched rental discs skipping- but that not really a player problem)

01-30-2007, 07:21 PM	#7
bferr1 Banned Member since:Sep 2006 Location:MA Trading Score:18	DMP-BD10 and HD-A2 in my set-up.

01-30-2007, 07:23 PM	#8
BostonHD22 Banned Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Boston	HEY JMMARTIN, yeah i am going to have both. i have the toshiba hd-a2 and its really good AND AND AND I ORDERED THE SAME PLAYER YOU HAVE: THE SAMSUNG BD-P1000. i was wondering how the samsung 1000 is cause i ordered it off amazon and its coming in the mail. is it a good player

01-30-2007, 08:33 PM	#9
HD4me Member Member since:Jan 2007	I have an HD-DVD player an am selling it to buy a PS3 for the BluRay features. HD-DVD is great, but trying to find a few good movies isn't easy. Most of the best movies on HD-DVD are also on BlueRay, whereas tons of BluRay movies I see that I love aren't on HD-DVD and won't be. The best looking HD-DVD I have seen is Hulk (2003), and King Kong is OK but it's way too long.

01-31-2007, 01:40 AM	#10
dvdguru Active Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Shelby, NC Trading Score:34	I have the Panasonic and the Toshiba players and both have been flawless for me. I've had the toshiba since 4/18 and the Panasonic since 11/06 and love both

01-31-2007, 05:04 PM	#16
jmmartin New Member Member since:Jan 2007	Well thanks for some of the input. I agree that consumers should pick one format and stick with it. But here lies the problem. I read and read and then I read some more on the 2 formats and decided that I would go with BluRay which I am very happy with. But I a lot of SD titles I like are not coming to BD because of the Movie Studios not backing both formats for the time being. So this poses a problem for me. Movies like The Fast and The Furious Trilogy are not going to be offered BluRay and Now they are saying Matrix and Harry Potter are HD DVD only. I do not have a PS3 or an Xbox 360 to fall back on, my children are a little younger and they are preferring the Wii for the time being. So I decided to go with a HD-A2 to compliment the BDP 1000. But after I bought I read some very disturbing info that it will not output 1080i because the HDMI software is all screwed up. So I call Toshiba and they say well hook it to the internet and download the update. I said no problem does it need to be hooked to the TV to do that and they said yes. Well how am I going to that when the room were the player is there is no Internet!!! They said we will send you a disc in a couple of weeks, So I have a $500 dollar 480P DVD player No Samsung did there updates so that they could be downloaded and burnt to disc, I think that is great. I know this is a blu ray forum but anybody else experience this problem with the HD-A2? If so how did you fix it? So strike one for the HD DVD camp in my book!! I guess I will be watching BluRay for awhile, which I guess is not so bad

01-31-2007, 05:14 PM	#17
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	don't worry about matrix and the hp movies. they are controlled by warner which is a neutral format. the rumor is that the matrix trilogy is ready to go for hd-dvd but they are holding off till some bd-j stuff is worked out so they can release both at the same time.

01-31-2007, 05:47 PM	#18
tim459 New Member Member since:Jan 2007	I have the Toshiba HD-XA1 and the Philips BDP9000. I've had very few problems with either one of them. Just lucky, I guess.

02-01-2007, 01:18 AM	#19
divedude Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Waxahachie, TX Blu-ray reviews:1	I have both the BD10 and the A2 and enjoy both. It is great being able to watch HD movies regardless of which format they come out on.

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