The Official Denon 2008-09 line up!

[Amel]

Denon AVR-1709



$449.00

Music around the home is now easier to realize than ever before. The AVR-1709 features a powerful seven channel amplifier section that can be easily configured for a 7.1 channel surround sound loudspeaker system, or to drive a 5.1 channel surround sound system in the main room, while at the same time able to drive a pair of stereo speakers in another room. Featuring tremendous video signal handling flexibility, the AVR-1709 features three latest specification v1.3a HDMI digital video inputs and one HDMI output that handles HD signals up to the highest 1080p resolution. As well, the AVR-1709 features on-board video up-conversion, along with three HD component video inputs for additional video signal handling flexibility. For optimum surround sound quality, the Audyssey MultEQ in-room acoustic measurement and optimization system measures the loudspeaker’s overall response (at up to six different measurement points) and tailors the audio signal for the smoothest, most natural-sounding tonal balance throughout the listening space. And, the AVR-1709 is one of the first to offer Audyssey’s Dynamic Volume leveling system, which eliminates jarring volume jumps between TV shows and commercials, as well as Audyssey Dynamic EQ to ensure rich bass and smooth tonal balance, even at low volume levels. Two remote controls are provided – one for the main room, and a second easy-to-use remote control for second zone audio control.

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4240.asp

Denon AVR-1909



$649.00

Ready for the future, the AVR-1909 is equipped with the latest high resolution surround sound format decoding capabilities, including Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, and DTS-HD Master Audio – the latest high resolution audio formats found on many Blu-ray high definition discs. The powerful seven channel amplifier section can be configured for 7.1 channel surround sound, as well as being able to drive a 5.1 channel system in the main room along with powered stereo speaker outputs for second zone audio. The video section features extensive video source switching and up-conversion capability, and is equipped with three latest specification v1.3a HDMI inputs and one HDMI output, with up to 1080p resolution. In addition, the AVR-1909 features Faroudja DCDi video processing and up-conversion, breathing new life into standard definition sources, along with three HD component video inputs and one HD component video output. Setup is a snap, thanks to the icon-based on screen display, and the Audyssey MultEQ acoustic correction and optimization system custom-tailors the sound for optimum tonal balance throughout the listening space. To eliminate irritating swings in volume between TV shows and commercials, the AVR-1909 is one of the first to offer Audyssey Dynamic Volume automatic volume-leveling system, as well as Audyssey Dynamic EQ to ensure rich bass and smooth tonal balance, even at low volume levels.

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4241.asp

SOON MORE!

Since I am looking to get one of the new Denons I will keep you guys updated!

[Bokchoy]

I have a Denon AVR-888 right now, but I'm selling it to a friend so I can get the 2008 version. Denon says July, and it's already the 3rd, and they don't even have specs out for the 889/2309. Best Buy looks like they're dumping their Denon stock, but I've no idea when these will be available for retail. I hope it's sooner rather than later.

The Audyssey features alone have me sold, but Denon is one of the few truly dependable AVR manufacturers. I'm surprised that Onkyo gets so much attention on these forums.

[dgator783]

i wouldnt mind that Denon AVR-1909

ive never bought a denon product before, how are they compared to other popular brands?

[Codywan24]

I have a 2808ci and trust me: They rock! Best receiver I've ever had by far and I've had some pretty nice ones!

[Bokchoy]

Originally Posted by dgator783

i wouldnt mind that Denon AVR-1909

ive never bought a denon product before, how are they compared to other popular brands?

Pros:
-Denon is known for being among the best in build quality.
-The '08 models offer features like lossless audio decoding and up-converting at even the entry-level models.
-They are the first to feature pretty much all of Audyssey's technology, namely MultEQ. Dynamic EQ, and Dynamic Volume.
-3+ HDMI slots is an improvement over last year.

Cons
-Denon is known for having hard-to-understand owner's manuals and crappy menu navigation, but apparently they addressed that with the upcoming line.
-Most models are also generally slightly less powerful than some equally-priced receivers from other brands.
-Nobody knows when the @#$! they're gonna hit the shelves!

Build quality is the main selling feature, in my opinion. Onkyo was great bang-for-your-buck, in terms of features for the $, but the workmanship that goes into manufacturing the receivers are constantly in question. I don't think I would be comfortable with an Onkyo or Sony AVR.

[twoboyz]

I have the AVR4308ci and I can assure you that I would not get rid of it. It is by far the best, easiest to operate reciever that I have owned. I also agree with an earlier post that why Onkyo products get so much attention. They are good products. Is it because people aren't willing to pay a little more for a reciever and are just trying to get into home theater for the least amount of money. I have always been under the impression "you get what you pay for"

DENON AVR 4308ci
Pioneer BDP95
Denon DVD3930ci
Def Tech BP7002's, CLR 2500, UIW BPA/z (2), UIW 94/a (2) = 7.1
Samsung 5084 1080p
Richard Gray's s600 Power Conditioner
Monster HTS 5100 Mk2

[Amel]

amazon placement for the 1909

http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR1909/...5534264&sr=8-2

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by dgator783

i wouldnt mind that Denon AVR-1909

ive never bought a denon product before, how are they compared to other popular brands?

Very good, some of the best besides some super high end stuff..

[Nathan P]

The 1709 won't handle DTS MA or TruHD unless you can get a player with analog outs. Looks like the bang for buck comment was spot on.

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by Nathan P

The 1709 won't handle DTS MA or TruHD unless you can get a player with analog outs. Looks like the bang for buck comment was spot on.

Im sure it runs PCM and HDMI, so just get a player that decodes and your all set...

[Riff Magnum]

I see the 1709 is rated at 80 watts. Can any of you Denon owners comment on whether this is enough power for a full 5.1 experience? I know it's entirely possible that this thing pumps it out harder than another receiver with higher wattage, but just wanted to make sure. I don't really need all the decoding since i have the ps3, so i'm thinking this would be the perfect receiver for the money.

[dobyblue]

Actually unless the receiver is THX certified Denon often cannot pump out at the rated levels, although the difference is scarce.

The 4308 is 140w/ch, but hits 126w/ch with all channels driven.
This only works out to around a 1/2dB difference though, so it's really not important as a jump to say, 75w/ch.

The Onkyo 875 is 140w/ch and hits 140w/ch on the test bench with all channels driven.

The Denon 5308CI has THX Ultra2 certification and I wouldn't be surprised if it indeed hit 150w/ch with all channels driven.

However, the times during which you'd have source material that would require all channels driven are few and far between, especially in HT and even more rare when you consider this is 7.1 channels driven, not 5.1

[Riff Magnum]

So i take that as a yes, it would be enough power? The room i plan on converting is only 11 x 13, by the way.