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Old 11-29-2008, 12:56 AM   #1
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I am trying to make a list of which BDs have Traditional Chinese (Complex Mandarin) subtitles.

My wife is Taiwanese, and she prefers BDs that have Traditional Mandarin subtitles. She can deal with BDs that have Cantonese, as characters are the same, but gets lost sometimes because the slang and idioms are different in Mandarin.

Many BD cases even just have Chinese listed as a subtitle. Very frustrating as "Chinese" could be Complex Mandarin, Simplified Mandarin, or Cantonese. Please post all your US and UK Blu-rays that have Traditional Chinese (Complex Mandarin) subtitles.


US titles

21 Jump Street
27 Dresses
30 Days of Night
50 First Dates
(500) Days of Summer
Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter
Air Force One
Batman Begins
Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Battle of Britain
Beneath the Planet of the Apes
Big Trouble in Little China
Black Hawk Down
Blade Runner (5 disc complete collector's edition)
Blue Velvet
Boyz n the Hood
Bridge too Far, A
Broken Trail
Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
Casino
Casino Royale
Child's Play
Close encounters of the third kind
Closer
Commando
Cruel Intentions
Daredevil
Day Watch
Family Guy Presents: Something, Something, Something Dark Side
Escape From the Planet of the Apes
Fargo
Few Good Men, A
Fifth Element, The
Fight Club
Flatliners
Fugitive, The (20th Anniversary)
Full Metal Jacket
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
I, robot
In the line of fire
Independence day
Infernal affairs
Knights Tale, A
LA confidential
Layer Cake
Longest Day, The
Man on Fire
Martian, The
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
Mel Brooks Collection
- To Be or Not to Be
- Twelve Chairs
- Young Frankenstein
- History of the World Part I

Misery
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Monty Python's Life of Brian
Muppets From Space
The Muppets Take Manhattan
Night watch
Patton
Pineapple Express
Planet of the Apes
Predator
Professionals, The
Quantum of Solace
Red Dawn
Resident Evil: Extinction
Robocop
Rocky II
Rocky III
Rocky IV
Rocky V
Romancing the Stone
Warriors of the Rainbow:Seediq Bale
Sideways
Sling Blade
Species
Spiderman
Spiderman 2
Spiderman 3
Sunshine
Terminator, The
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Thomas Crown Affair, The
Twilight Zone: The Movie
Troy: Director's cut
Unbreakable
Underworld - Evolution
Unstoppable
Vantage Point
Wall Street
Wizard of Oz, The
X-Men Trilogy
X-Men Origins: Wolverine




UK titles

The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn
All Quiet on the Western Front
Almost Famous
American Graffiti
Battle:Los Angeles
Batman
Batman Forevever
Batman and Robin
Batman Returns
Cape Fear (1991)
The Big Lebowski
A Few Good Men
Goonies, The
Harvey
Hulk
Incredible Hulk, The
Joe Kidd
Jurassic Park Trilogy
King Kong
The Last Boy Scout
Lethal Weapon Collection
Little Miss Sunshine
Man on Fire
Moon
Mars Attacks!
The Nightmare on Elm Street Collection
Platoon
Safe House
Spartacus
Stanley Kubrick Collection
- Barry Lyndon
- A Clockwork Orange
- Eyes Wide Shut
The Sting

The Thing
To Kill a Mockingbird
Uncle Buck

German titles
Miracle on 34th Street (1947)
Sleepers
Paul

Australian Titles
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
The Life of Brian

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Old 11-29-2008, 03:54 AM   #2
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I am trying to make a list of which BDs have Traditional Chinese (Mandirin)subtitles.

Amazon doesn't offer much info in the disc info section. Some discs list Chinese on the back, but this could mean Cantonese, simplified Mandirin or traditional Mandirin.

Help
Here is a sampling of the ones with TCST that I own.

My wife also finds it frustrating that hardly any movies are released with them.
27 dresses
30 days of night
50 first dates
A bridge too far
A few good men
Airforce One
Batman begins
Battle of Britain
Black hawk down
Blade runner (5 disc complete collector's edition)
Broken Trail
Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
Casino Royale
Close encounters of the third kind
Closer
Commando
Cruel intentions
Day watch
Déjà vu
Die hard
Flatliners
I, robot
In the line of fire
Independence day
Infernal affairs
LA confidential
Layer cake
Man on fire
Master & commander
Monty Python's life of Brian
Mr & Mrs Smith
Night watch
Patton
Predator
Resident evil: Extinction
Robocop
Species
Spiderman
Spiderman 2
Spiderman 3
Sunshine
Terminator 2: judgement day
The fifth element
The longest day
The professionals
The terminator
Troy: Director's cut
Unbreakable
Underworld - Evolution
Vantage point
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Old 11-29-2008, 04:38 AM   #3
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Ordered Bladerunner from amazon, glad to hear it has TCST. All the others that I own were bought here in Taipei, so they have TCST. Tahnks for the list, wish Ironman, simpsons, and godfather were included. Have to wait for their release in Taiwan.
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Old 11-29-2008, 03:39 PM   #4
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I think there is a thread at AVS dedicated to this topic.
Yup, here is a link: AVS Thread.

It's a shame the studios aren't more explicit about language variants they use for audio and subtitles since there are others as well that could use clarification sometimes (e.g. Spanish, Portuguese, French variants) - even when this is denoted on the packaging, it's not always correct.

The situation is a little bit of a mess, since as far as I know the discs themselves are encoded with only very generic language identifier tags (e.g. "Chinese" instead of Mandarin/Cantonese audio, Traditional/Simplified script) and many discs have "empty" subtitle tracks, so even reviewers / other disc owners will have a hard time reporting this 100% accurately unless they know the language. You really have to have a fluent speaker/reader pop in the disc and verify the individual tracks by ear/eye.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:45 AM   #5
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Bluhorizon, I see you mentioned Master and Commander in your list. I saw the Blu-ray at Circuit City today and the back said it was subtitled in Cantonese. So it also has Traditional Chinese as well? I want to get it for my mom to watch but if it's Cantonese then it's a no go for me. Same goes for Die Hard. The back said Cantonese. Ack. Help!
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i wish studios put some chinese subtitles on blu ray.. considering they're in the same Region A. there are a few time I didn't buy the discs because of it.
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Thanks for the AVS link, but it seems to be a tad old and the additions made to the original list don't specify if the subs are Cantonese or traditonal Mandarin.

Wondering if anyone knows what Chinese subtitles are on Iron Man, Simpsons, Indiana Jones 4, The Dark Knight, Band of Brothers, Kung-fu panda, Godfather or any other must buy new releases.

Don't want to wait 6 months or longer for their releases in Taiwan if I don't have to.

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Thanks for the AVS link, but it seems to be a tad old and the additions made to the original list don't specify if the subs are Cantonese or traditonal Mandarin.

Wondering if anyone knows what Chinese subtitles are on Iron Man, Simpsons, Indiana Jones 4, The Dark Knight, Band of Brothers, Kung-fu panda, Godfather or any other must buy new releases.

Don't want to wait 6 months or longer for their releases in Taiwan if I don't have to.
You just check the 'Movies' section of blu-ray.com and will find detailed subtitles information on each title.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:59 AM   #9
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Under 'Movies' at blu-ray.com, it states Chinese as a subtitle for some movies.

If you look at the Blade Runner page it says a subtitle is Chinese, also the pic of the back of the disc says Chinese. Is the text Catonese, Traditional Mandarin or Simplified Mandarin? I am only looking movies that have traditional Mandarin.
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Ordered Bladerunner from amazon, glad to hear it has TCST. All the others that I own were bought here in Taipei, so they have TCST. Tahnks for the list, wish Ironman, simpsons, and godfather were included. Have to wait for their release in Taiwan.
Good luck with getting good prices - Amazon prices incl. shipping are about 20% cheaper than retail in Kaohsiung.
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:25 AM   #11
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Under 'Movies' at blu-ray.com, it states Chinese as a subtitle for some movies.
I think the point made in the AVS thread is that most of those domestic releases that specify only "Chinese" without further clarification are usually Traditional Mandarin and when Simplified or Cantonese are present instead (or in addition to Traditional) then this is usually stated as such in the packaging or disc menus.

Obviously, "most" may not be satisfactory for making blind purchasing decisions, especially if you are importing these and don't have a simple return option...

As far as some of the specific titles you asked about, these titles definitely have no Chinese subtitles of any kind: Iron Man, Indy 4 and Kung Fu Panda. Not sure about The Godfather, The Dark Knight and Band of Brothers, but it appears that they probably do not have Chinese subtitles either. I can't read Chinese to differentiate between the different types, but it's pretty obvious when the subtitles are not there at all!
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Under 'Movies' at blu-ray.com, it states Chinese as a subtitle for some movies.

If you look at the Blade Runner page it says a subtitle is Chinese, also the pic of the back of the disc says Chinese. Is the text Catonese, Traditional Mandarin or Simplified Mandarin? I am only looking movies that have traditional Mandarin.
The movies I have quoted are all in Traditional Chinese. Iron Man and Indiana Jones 4 do not have TCST (or SCST).
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Just watched Live Free or Die Hard! Subtitles are Cantonese. Says it on the back of box too. Amazon doesn't list it, just says English, Spanish, French. This site just says Chinese. Took a chance

Daredevil has TCST

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Some US releases I bought with TCST lately,

X-Men box set
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
Casino
Daredevil
A Knight's Tale

Bought these in Taiwan, but I believe the US releases have TCST
Full Metal Jacket
Sideways

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Put the list in the first post and added some.
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US region 1 with TCST:
(500) Days of Summer 戀夏500日
Pineapple express 菠蘿快遞 (even extra has TCST I think)..

UK region FREE with TCST:
Little Miss Sunshine陽光小美女
King Kong金剛
The Incredible Hulk無敵浩克
Man on Fire怒火救援

will check my blus in the weekend, can't remember anything else now..

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US region 1 with TCST:
(500) Days of Summer 戀夏500日
Pineapple express 菠蘿快遞 (even extra has TCST I think)..

UK region FREE with TCST:
Little Miss Sunshine陽光小美女
King Kong金剛
The Incredible Hulk無敵浩克
Man on Fire怒火救援

will check my blus in the weekend, can't remember anything else now..
Thanks,

I added them to the list. I gotta check my new ones this weekend too.
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Got the Rocky Anthology; all have Complex Mandarin Subtitles except Rocky and Rocky Balboa.
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Added Twilight Zone: The Movie and Quantum of Solace.
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Took away Mr. and Mrs. Smith, has Cantonese.
Also Master & Commander, just Cantonese.
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