Toshiba Offers $100 Rebate on New HD DVD Players with 5 free movies - Blu-ray Forum

HDTV1080P · 05-16-2007, 09:31 PM

It looks like the way prices are headed no one is going to be making any money on either the BLU-RAY or HD-DVD format. Toshiba is now offering a $100 rebate on new HD-DVD players which places the player prices $299 or lower and with 5 free movies. That is half the cost of the Panasonic offer.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/High-Def_Retailing/Hardware/Toshiba_Offers_$100_Rebate_on_New_HD_DVD_Players/637

Ascended_Saiyan · 05-16-2007, 09:46 PM

It seems that Toshiba is trying to capitalize on the Matrix Trilogy reviewer ratings to capture more marketshare with this rebate. MS is probably funding the rebate, because I don't believe Toshiba has those kinds of reserves anymore.

ps3andlovinit · 05-16-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

It seems that Toshiba is trying to capitalize on the Matrix Trilogy reviewer ratings to capture more marketshare with this rebate. MS is probably funding the rebate, because I don't believe Toshiba has those kinds of reserves anymore.

Most rebates never make it to the customer. They are generally a scam.

WriteSimply · 05-16-2007, 09:58 PM

Toshiba keeps proving why HD-DVD is an interim technology. By pushing down their own prices of hardware, they've put barriers to other CEs that can't be climbed over. Once the price goes lower, nobody wants to buy more expensive players.

If HD-DVD survives (and not win) in the long run, it'll do so at Toshiba's own detriment. Too bad they can't see that they have been played by MS.

fuad

dakota81 · 05-16-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Most rebates never make it to the customer. They are generally a scam.

So has been their free movie offer to this point. Go check the AVS forums about many who sent in request back in January still have no indication they'll see their movies anytime soon.

But what does Toshiba care? It gets a player into someone's hands.

hipsterwallet · 05-16-2007, 10:04 PM

This is serious business. The Tosh HD-A2 is $270 at Amazon today. If that stays close, we're talking a sub-$200 HD-DVD player, brand new, and including 5 free movies (the $100 is instant rebate; the movies are mail-in)

coolmilo · 05-16-2007, 10:17 PM

I'll take the deal when Toshiba pays me $100 plus gives me the entire HD DVD library.

A friend of mine who buys into the M$ crap just purchased a second Toshiba. The sad part of the story is my friend is extremely frustrated with the choices available on HD DVD. However, he continues to support the failing format because he already has 50 plus HD DVD movies. Anyway, he was offerend 5 free movies with his latest purchase. Unfortunately the list of movies offered was so poor that he passed on that offer.

I called him yesterday and told him to return his HD DVD player and purchase the new panny player with the 5 free movies. I was quite impressed with the bundle of movies included with the new panny and there is no waiting for the movies to show up once you have the player.

cdblu · 05-16-2007, 10:35 PM

wow! 299$ plus 5 free movies? if you ask me thats an act of desperation. yes the price is awesome but what if they dont sell even with this rebate? most likely if toshiba doesnt sell they'll call it quits by june 16th.

dakota81 · 05-16-2007, 10:41 PM

This seems like it might be more of a testing period for whether they'll go through with manufacturing the rumored $300 Chinese players or not. See if there's a sizable jump in interest, if it'll be worth the risk contracting out for the 2 million players.

Shin-Ra · 05-16-2007, 10:49 PM

What good is a cheap player when you can't play Blu-ray Pirates of the Caribbean on it? Or even some of the disks that are supposed to play.

Blu_Ray_UK2007 · 05-16-2007, 10:52 PM

I think this shows just how desprate they are getting.

dialog_gvf · 05-16-2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipsterwallet

This is serious business. The Tosh HD-A2 is $270 at Amazon today. If that stays close, we're talking a sub-$200 HD-DVD player, brand new, and including 5 free movies (the $100 is instant rebate; the movies are mail-in)

Yep. A whole new crop of Blu-ray haters on the way. The price doesn't change the realities. But, that won't stop the complaining.

Gary

theknub · 05-16-2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Yep. A whole new crop of Blu-ray haters on the way. The price doesn't change the realities. But, that won't stop the complaining.

Gary

brace the board. we're gonna have a whole new litany of posters very soon

Maximus · 05-16-2007, 11:59 PM

Hmm, desperation anybody?

JTK · 05-17-2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

It looks like the way prices are headed no one is going to be making any money on either the BLU-RAY or HD-DVD format. Toshiba is now offering a $100 rebate on new HD-DVD players which places the player prices $299 or lower and with 5 free movies. That is half the cost of the Panasonic offer.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/High-Def_Retailing/Hardware/Toshiba_Offers_$100_Rebate_on_New_HD_DVD_Players/637

Firesale.

greatfenris · 05-17-2007, 12:17 AM

Well, maybe a tad to late.

But, people not fully into the whole format war and the missing movies on HD-DVD might provide higher sales for neutral studios and the war rages on longer then needed.

Well, let's see.

blitz6speed · 05-17-2007, 12:22 AM

Watch out for toshibas 2 new holiday specials!

a) Buy a box of crackerjacks, get a A2 free!

b) Buy a HD-DVD player, get the ENTIRE Library free!

mikey p · 05-17-2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by blitz6speed

b) Buy a HD-DVD player, get the ENTIRE Library free!

No matter, still no sale here, A1 plus amir and the yard dogs is all I can stand!

Jazar · 05-17-2007, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Most rebates never make it to the customer. They are generally a scam.

This is an *instant* rebate.

HDTV1080P · 05-17-2007, 01:23 AM

There are millions of uneducated consumers when it comes to consumer electronics. When people see 1080P up convert DVD players in stores for around $50 some people think any standard DVD will become 1080P HDTV quality. Others might purchase a HD-DVD dual disc and play the DVD side and upconvert it to 1080P.
Then some might one day see Toshiba players for $199-$299 and purchase it and think any standard DVD they play in it will be HDTV quality. Hopefully people will not be stupid enough to purchase a HD-DVD player and play only 480I DVD’s. The HD-DVD camps strategy is to get the HD-DVD player prices down to levels near DVD players so that millions will be sold. Then they will try and get Fox and Disney to release dual disc HD-DVD’s or standard HD-DVD’s. I do not think Fox and Disney are interested in fueling a format war and will stick with BLU-RAY.
In this format war the most important numbers will always be the number of BLU-RAY movies sold compared to the number of standard HD-DVD discs sold (not including combo disc sales since combo discs do not require one to own a HD-DVD player).
Bundle all this with universal players coming to market and new articles about the format war being released every week and what you have is nothing but mainstream total consumer confusion.

05-16-2007, 09:31 PM	#1
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	Toshiba Offers $100 Rebate on New HD DVD Players with 5 free movies It looks like the way prices are headed no one is going to be making any money on either the BLU-RAY or HD-DVD format. Toshiba is now offering a $100 rebate on new HD-DVD players which places the player prices $299 or lower and with 5 free movies. That is half the cost of the Panasonic offer. http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/High-Def_Retailing/Hardware/Toshiba_Offers_$100_Rebate_on_New_HD_DVD_Players/637

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05-16-2007, 09:46 PM	#2
Ascended_Saiyan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Atlanta, Georgia Blu-ray collection:608 Trading Score:1	It seems that Toshiba is trying to capitalize on the Matrix Trilogy reviewer ratings to capture more marketshare with this rebate. MS is probably funding the rebate, because I don't believe Toshiba has those kinds of reserves anymore.

05-16-2007, 09:58 PM	#4
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Toshiba keeps proving why HD-DVD is an interim technology. By pushing down their own prices of hardware, they've put barriers to other CEs that can't be climbed over. Once the price goes lower, nobody wants to buy more expensive players. If HD-DVD survives (and not win) in the long run, it'll do so at Toshiba's own detriment. Too bad they can't see that they have been played by MS. fuad

05-16-2007, 10:04 PM	#6
hipsterwallet New Member Member since:Jan 2007	This is serious business. The Tosh HD-A2 is $270 at Amazon today. If that stays close, we're talking a sub-$200 HD-DVD player, brand new, and including 5 free movies (the $100 is instant rebate; the movies are mail-in)

05-16-2007, 10:17 PM	#7
coolmilo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	I'll take the deal when Toshiba pays me $100 plus gives me the entire HD DVD library. A friend of mine who buys into the M$ crap just purchased a second Toshiba. The sad part of the story is my friend is extremely frustrated with the choices available on HD DVD. However, he continues to support the failing format because he already has 50 plus HD DVD movies. Anyway, he was offerend 5 free movies with his latest purchase. Unfortunately the list of movies offered was so poor that he passed on that offer. I called him yesterday and told him to return his HD DVD player and purchase the new panny player with the 5 free movies. I was quite impressed with the bundle of movies included with the new panny and there is no waiting for the movies to show up once you have the player.

05-16-2007, 10:35 PM	#8
cdblu Senior Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:california Blu-ray collection:58	wow! 299$ plus 5 free movies? if you ask me thats an act of desperation. yes the price is awesome but what if they dont sell even with this rebate? most likely if toshiba doesnt sell they'll call it quits by june 16th.

05-16-2007, 10:41 PM	#9
dakota81 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2007	This seems like it might be more of a testing period for whether they'll go through with manufacturing the rumored $300 Chinese players or not. See if there's a sizable jump in interest, if it'll be worth the risk contracting out for the 2 million players.

05-16-2007, 10:49 PM	#10
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	What good is a cheap player when you can't play Blu-ray Pirates of the Caribbean on it? Or even some of the disks that are supposed to play.

05-16-2007, 10:52 PM	#11
Blu_Ray_UK2007 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Location:UK 4K collection:164 Blu-ray collection:782 Trading Score:1	I think this shows just how desprate they are getting.

05-16-2007, 11:59 PM	#14
Maximus Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2006	Hmm, desperation anybody?

05-17-2007, 12:17 AM	#16
greatfenris Member Member since:May 2007	Well, maybe a tad to late. But, people not fully into the whole format war and the missing movies on HD-DVD might provide higher sales for neutral studios and the war rages on longer then needed. Well, let's see.

05-17-2007, 12:22 AM	#17
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	Watch out for toshibas 2 new holiday specials! a) Buy a box of crackerjacks, get a A2 free! b) Buy a HD-DVD player, get the ENTIRE Library free!

05-17-2007, 01:23 AM	#20
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	There are millions of uneducated consumers when it comes to consumer electronics. When people see 1080P up convert DVD players in stores for around $50 some people think any standard DVD will become 1080P HDTV quality. Others might purchase a HD-DVD dual disc and play the DVD side and upconvert it to 1080P. Then some might one day see Toshiba players for $199-$299 and purchase it and think any standard DVD they play in it will be HDTV quality. Hopefully people will not be stupid enough to purchase a HD-DVD player and play only 480I DVD’s. The HD-DVD camps strategy is to get the HD-DVD player prices down to levels near DVD players so that millions will be sold. Then they will try and get Fox and Disney to release dual disc HD-DVD’s or standard HD-DVD’s. I do not think Fox and Disney are interested in fueling a format war and will stick with BLU-RAY. In this format war the most important numbers will always be the number of BLU-RAY movies sold compared to the number of standard HD-DVD discs sold (not including combo disc sales since combo discs do not require one to own a HD-DVD player). Bundle all this with universal players coming to market and new articles about the format war being released every week and what you have is nothing but mainstream total consumer confusion.

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