Is worth to upgrad from 5.1 to 7.1

[Stephan.klose]

I currently have a 5.1 Setup.
I have a HD-DVD Player, A Blu Ray Player and a Onkyo 605.

I have Vienna Acoustics speakers well worth over $7000. Is it worth to spend a few hundred in the additional speakers? There are now more and more releases in 7.1?

Also, does anyone know how good the upconverting capabilities of the 605 from 5.1 to 7.1 are? It can do that right?

[Beta Man]

sorta depends on your room...... if you have the room for it, I'd say "Sure"


it cost me about $1,500 to add two rear surrounds....... given the option to do it again, I certainly wouldn't have gone that extravagent, because it's ambient/background noise, low-musical score, etc..... not as immersive as you'd think, and although movies like 3:10 to Yuma sound GREAT...... turn off the rears, and it still sounds great in 5.1 ........ so it's really up to you.... but if you have space limitations, 5.1 is sufficient.

[Stephan.klose]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

sorta depends on your room...... if you have the room for it, I'd say "Sure"


it cost me about $1,500 to add two rear surrounds....... given the option to do it again, I certainly wouldn't have gone that extravagent, because it's ambient/background noise, low-musical score, etc..... not as immersive as you'd think, and although movies like 3:10 to Yuma sound GREAT...... turn off the rears, and it still sounds great in 5.1 ........ so it's really up to you.... but if you have space limitations, 5.1 is sufficient.

I have some space limitations. On the other hand I would have the perfect space to set up the speakers. Since I have Vienna Acoustics speakers I really would want the surround backs from that brand again. That would cost money. So you say you wouldn't spend $1,500 again just for 7.1. That's the amount I would guesstimate I would have to spend.. I am waiting for more replies before making a decision. Thanks though, you really helped

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Stephan.klose

I have some space limitations. On the other hand I would have the perfect space to set up the speakers. Since I have Vienna Acoustics speakers I really would want the surround backs from that brand again. That would cost money. So you say you wouldn't spend $1,500 again just for 7.1. That's the amount I would guesstimate I would have to spend.. I am waiting for more replies before making a decision. Thanks though, you really helped

So you plan on using the Haydn's right? If you have the proper space go for it - you will notice a difference. What are you using for a receiver/or pre/pro/amp combination?

Edit: I see you are using an Onkyo 605 - I would forgo the Haydn's and get a receiver or amp/pre-amp combination worthy of your speakers. You should be looking at something like the Marantz 8002 or the Pioneer Elites, or a Integra 9.8 prepro with an Outlaw amp.

[SDon1969]

If you had less expensive speakers, I'd say yes. But for that kind of money, I voted no.

[111111]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

sorta depends on your room...... if you have the room for it, I'd say "Sure"


it cost me about $1,500 to add two rear surrounds....... given the option to do it again, I certainly wouldn't have gone that extravagent, because it's ambient/background noise, low-musical score, etc..... not as immersive as you'd think, and although movies like 3:10 to Yuma sound GREAT...... turn off the rears, and it still sounds great in 5.1 ........ so it's really up to you.... but if you have space limitations, 5.1 is sufficient.

^^ This

Depends on your room and your pocket book.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Stephan.klose

I currently have a 5.1 Setup.
I have a HD-DVD Player, A Blu Ray Player and a Onkyo 605.

I have Vienna Acoustics speakers well worth over $7000. Is it worth to spend a few hundred in the additional speakers? There are now more and more releases in 7.1?

Also, does anyone know how good the upconverting capabilities of the 605 from 5.1 to 7.1 are? It can do that right?

I would definately look at upgrading my receiver first! Hadyn's are a 4ohm load that Onkyo would not be happy at all with that. Get something a bit more beefy.

P.S. I would like to change my vote to number 2 if you don't upgrade the receiver.

[Beta Man]

I wish I could afford separates,

I'm just glad to see I'm not the only one spending a fraction on the AVR, while putting all of my cash into the speakers!!!!! I agree though, The Vienna's would benefit from a better AVR, if not separates..... Denon makes a lot of nicer mid-to-high range AVRs, and you could probably get an older model still capable of the codecs for under $1,000

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

I wish I could afford separates,

I'm just glad to see I'm not the only one spending a fraction on the AVR, while putting all of my cash into the speakers!!!!! I agree though, The Vienna's would benefit from a better AVR, if not separates..... Denon makes a lot of nicer mid-to-high range AVRs, and you could probably get an older model still capable of the codecs for under $1,000

My seperates are pretty solid - but I wouldn't call them High-end. I'm getting all of my amps with the exception of my sub amp (I will leave the Sony TA-N80ES on those - that amp's a beast) over to Yamaha's. I've just negotiated a deal on a Yamaha M-80 for $235.00 to round out my amps. As I've said before I've always been a vintage man - keep the stuff running well and it will serve you for years.

P.S. you can afford seperates - even new ones - PM me and tell me how much would you spend (you have half of it already with the Marantz Receiver )!

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by RayEdwards

^^ This

Depends on your room and your pocket book.

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[111111]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Please fix your sig....its been bugging me for weeks and I keep forgetting to post... thanks

What's wrong w/my sig?

My dyslexia is showing!

[gearyt]

I have M&K's
I thought it was worth the $$
but depends on your expendable cash

g

[kingofgrills]

Definitely upgrade your receiver, because with those speakers you'll benefit from the upgrade. Also, you might consider upgrading from 5.1 to 6.1 instead of 7.1. Adding a back surround channel, which can be done with one speaker, makes a big difference over 5.1 without adding too much expense or taking up too much space.

[jomari]

first off, lets get numbers.

whats the dimensions of your room?

viewing distance from speakers?

specs specs specs....

for a smaller room, lets say 10x12 (12 being the width of the room), you cant really tell from a VERY GOOD 5.1 setup vs a mediocre 7.1.

7.1s are great to have, and can significantly change the way your current surround environment, but have to be tweaked a bit and well, you have to end up making sure your room can accomodate it.

price wise, id end up getting em anyways, if cost wouldnt be THAT significant. you'd be future proofing your room, and well, you can get better deals if you'd find a good dealer...


*edit*

Btw, i agree on the others here, id rather spend the extra money as well on a higher end reciever, to feed those beaut's you have for fronts...THATS where you can definitely find a significant difference.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by jomari

first off, lets get numbers.

whats the dimensions of your room?

viewing distance from speakers?

specs specs specs....

for a smaller room, lets say 10x12 (12 being the width of the room), you cant really tell from a VERY GOOD 5.1 setup vs a mediocre 7.1.

7.1s are great to have, and can significantly change the way your current surround environment, but have to be tweaked a bit and well, you have to end up making sure your room can accomodate it.

price wise, id end up getting em anyways, if cost wouldnt be THAT significant. you'd be future proofing your room, and well, you can get better deals if you'd find a good dealer...


*edit*

Btw, i agree on the others here, id rather spend the extra money as well on a higher end reciever, to feed those beaut's you have for fronts...THATS where you can definitely find a significant difference.

+1 Here, Here

[Stephan.klose]

Originally Posted by prerich

So you plan on using the Haydn's right? If you have the proper space go for it - you will notice a difference. What are you using for a receiver/or pre/pro/amp combination?

Edit: I see you are using an Onkyo 605 - I would forgo the Haydn's and get a receiver or amp/pre-amp combination worthy of your speakers. You should be looking at something like the Marantz 8002 or the Pioneer Elites, or a Integra 9.8 prepro with an Outlaw amp.

I am actually quite happy with the Onkyo 605. Since I work at an electronic dealer with a hi-fi studio I got to try a lot of combinations. I have yet to find one that sound's as nice as mine.

[Stephan.klose]

Originally Posted by prerich

I would definately look at upgrading my receiver first! Hadyn's are a 4ohm load that Onkyo would not be happy at all with that. Get something a bit more beefy.

P.S. I would like to change my vote to number 2 if you don't upgrade the receiver.

All my current Vienna Acoustics speakers are on 6ohm.. but yes, I guess my onkyo wouldn't be happy with them

[Stephan.klose]

Originally Posted by prerich

My seperates are pretty solid - but I wouldn't call them High-end. I'm getting all of my amps with the exception of my sub amp (I will leave the Sony TA-N80ES on those - that amp's a beast) over to Yamaha's. I've just negotiated a deal on a Yamaha M-80 for $235.00 to round out my amps. As I've said before I've always been a vintage man - keep the stuff running well and it will serve you for years.

P.S. you can afford seperates - even new ones - PM me and tell me how much would you spend (you have half of it already with the Marantz Receiver )!

I just got the receiver a few month ago. I really don't wanna upgrade now. In a year or so I will buy whatever the next 805 will be.

[Stephan.klose]

Originally Posted by jomari

first off, lets get numbers.

whats the dimensions of your room?

viewing distance from speakers?

specs specs specs....

for a smaller room, lets say 10x12 (12 being the width of the room), you cant really tell from a VERY GOOD 5.1 setup vs a mediocre 7.1.

7.1s are great to have, and can significantly change the way your current surround environment, but have to be tweaked a bit and well, you have to end up making sure your room can accomodate it.

price wise, id end up getting em anyways, if cost wouldnt be THAT significant. you'd be future proofing your room, and well, you can get better deals if you'd find a good dealer...


*edit*

Btw, i agree on the others here, id rather spend the extra money as well on a higher end reciever, to feed those beaut's you have for fronts...THATS where you can definitely find a significant difference.

My front speakers are the Mozart model. I don't have to find a dealer since I work at one. So I would probably get a really, really good price..

[Stephan.klose]

Originally Posted by jomari

first off, lets get numbers.

whats the dimensions of your room?

viewing distance from speakers?

specs specs specs....

for a smaller room, lets say 10x12 (12 being the width of the room), you cant really tell from a VERY GOOD 5.1 setup vs a mediocre 7.1.

7.1s are great to have, and can significantly change the way your current surround environment, but have to be tweaked a bit and well, you have to end up making sure your room can accomodate it.

price wise, id end up getting em anyways, if cost wouldnt be THAT significant. you'd be future proofing your room, and well, you can get better deals if you'd find a good dealer...


*edit*

Btw, i agree on the others here, id rather spend the extra money as well on a higher end reciever, to feed those beaut's you have for fronts...THATS where you can definitely find a significant difference.

I could only tell you in meters. I will have to measure and then convert it into ft.