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Old 12-26-2014, 07:17 PM   #4381
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even get a present for Christmas too…
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/...on-google.html

for a nominal fee unless they can hack in.
Looks like I spoke too soon ^ . The “cost of doing business”…. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102296218

As to investors (Stevie?) thinking about jumping in and purchasing SNE stock…. well, even with the reversal in Sony Pictures strategy (from outright pulling the film to now making it available on a limited theatrical basis and online…thusly taping into the patriotism aspect of peoples’ sense of freedom of speech) the implementation of that new strategy will not recoup the $$ lost to Sony Pictures caused by the computer breach and its repercussions as described here…http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/patrio...the-interview/

Personally, and by ‘personally’ that means I claim no fiduciary duty (http://www.highpassasset.com/blog/58...ockbroker.html to any reader, so personally, I would not purchase any Sony (SNE) stock at this time…unless more specific (potentially upsided) info is revealed in leaked emails regarding the sale of its stake in the Sony/ATV Music Publishing unit (which I think now actually is the largest music publisher in the world, estimated value between at least $1.5 - $2 Billion)

….unless of course the nature of the emails themselves by having been leaked and, ergo no longer confidential, will somehow undermine Sony’s negotiating power to get a deal worthy of the true value of the asset and the buyer doesn’t view the whole thing as a desperation sale by S Corp especially after the Pictures fiasco.
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Old 12-26-2014, 07:21 PM   #4382
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You're right, at 12MB per frame it's just over 2TB for a two hour feature.


Now it’s time to watch the Arsenal match which I recorded. Geoff, stay safe, don’t take too many punches in the stores on Boxing Day.
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Old 12-26-2014, 07:30 PM   #4383
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I've been liberated from the shop floor since February Penton, I'm enjoying my first Boxing Day without having to work in god knows how long. But Palace got thumped by Southampton so I'm not exactly happy at the moment...
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Old 12-27-2014, 12:39 AM   #4384
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I've been liberated from the shop floor since February Penton, I'm enjoying my first Boxing Day without having to work in god knows how long....
I didn’t know that…good to hear.

As an American, once I got over the non-pugilistic meaning of the word (I had visions of people fist fighting in the streets of London ), I always kind of wondered what was the truly accurate historical derivation as I never really researched it and just enjoyed the football/soccer matches on TV on 'Boxing Day'.
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I didn’t know that…good to hear.

As an American, once I got over the non-pugilistic meaning of the word (I had visions of people fist fighting in the streets of London ), I always kind of wondered what was the truly accurate historical derivation as I never really researched it and just enjoyed the football/soccer matches on TV on 'Boxing Day'.
Hi Penton man. Hope you had good Christmas. I'm just getting through some blurays and looking forward to next year with my 4k tv!
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Old 12-28-2014, 12:19 AM   #4386
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Hi Penton man. Hope you had good Christmas.
The lead-up to Christmas was *interesting*. to say the least. Catch-up by skimming the last 5 pages of the thread starting with a post addressed to you here - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post10151582
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Old 12-28-2014, 12:21 AM   #4387
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I don't believe the hack had anything to do with North Korea or The Interview.
Vargo, have you been holding back on us? Do you know ‘Lena’?..... http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/27/tech/n...ts-about-hack/
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Old 12-28-2014, 12:31 AM   #4388
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The lead-up to Christmas was *interesting*. to say the least. Catch-up by skimming the last 5 pages of the thread starting with a post addressed to you here - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post10151582
Wow, well that must have been stressful? All the best and let's look forward to the new year. Good health.
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Vargo, have you been holding back on us? Do you know ‘Lena’?..... http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/27/tech/n...ts-about-hack/
It has seriously peed me off not being able to play a little destiny or fifa this Christmas. Especially when the nephews have been visiting. I still can't get on even tonight. What a complete farce this year has been for gamers of the ps4 variety in my opinion.
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Old 12-28-2014, 12:37 AM   #4390
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Hey Everyone,

I was hoping someone could help me out with a question I have. I've been searching for this, but can't seem to find it. From what I understand, 4K Blu-ray Discs will be available in the late fall of next year (2015). Does anyone know what the launch titles will be?

Many thanks for the kindness and help in advance.

-Luke
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Old 12-28-2014, 12:49 AM   #4391
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Hey Everyone,

I was hoping someone could help me out with a question I have. I've been searching for this, but can't seem to find it. From what I understand, 4K Blu-ray Discs will be available in the late fall of next year (2015). Does anyone know what the launch titles will be?

Many thanks for the kindness and help in advance.

-Luke
Nobody knows. The specs aren't even finalized yet.
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Old 12-28-2014, 06:55 AM   #4392
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Hoping for some more news at CES
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Old 12-28-2014, 06:05 PM   #4393
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Hey Everyone,

I was hoping someone could help me out with a question I have. I've been searching for this, but can't seem to find it. From what I understand, 4K Blu-ray Discs will be available in the late fall of next year (2015). Does anyone know what the launch titles will be?

Many thanks for the kindness and help in advance.

-Luke
You and me both want to know the launch titles. However there are too many questions that remain either unanswered or ambiguous.

I want to know what the packaging will be like, I am really routing for something that is completely different from Blu-ray's. What I want is for them to be more like PlayStation 4's game boxes, I don't need to bar at the top with the Blu-ray logo it means there's less room for the artwork. Further to this once the studios have added the banner for the "this film comes with a DVD copy, a Blu-ray copy, and an ultraviolet copy" there is even less room for the artwork as that takes up about half an inch on top of the Blu-ray logo.

One of the questions I have is will 3D with 4K per eye be available from launch? Looking at HEVC profile 2 I can't see it being there at all never mind with 4K per eye.

Can H.264 do 3D with 4K per eye?
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Old 12-28-2014, 06:12 PM   #4394
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Does anybody care to make a prediction about CES or discuss their expectations?

My prediction is... We will see DTS UHD and that's that, better than nothing. The suspense is killing me, I can't wait for CES or any other tech show next year for that matter.

Speaking of DTS UHD anyone care to guess as to what it could be/do?

My guess is that it won't be called DTS UHD and if it is called anything close to that it will be DTS UHD MA, as far as channels are concerned I think it will be analogous to Dolby ATMOS. Imagine if it requires a different layout
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You and me both want to know the launch titles. However there are too many questions that remain either unanswered or ambiguous.

I want to know what the packaging will be like, I am really routing for something that is completely different from Blu-ray's. What I want is for them to be more like PlayStation 4's game boxes, I don't need to bar at the top with the Blu-ray logo it means there's less room for the artwork. Further to this once the studios have added the banner for the "this film comes with a DVD copy, a Blu-ray copy, and an ultraviolet copy" there is even less room for the artwork as that takes up about half an inch on top of the Blu-ray logo.

One of the questions I have is will 3D with 4K per eye be available from launch? Looking at HEVC profile 2 I can't see it being there at all never mind with 4K per eye.

Can H.264 do 3D with 4K per eye?
I don't see why H.264 can't do 4K3D. Only problem is, there isn't any 4K3D titles to begin with. Not even in cinemas. I don't know any movies mastered in 4K3D.

Also, currently in 1080p 3D, storage is a challenge on a 50GB BD.

But any how, I believe 4K3D TVs are available now. So including this at launch is not too far fetched.
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Does anybody care to make a prediction about CES or discuss their expectations?

My prediction is... We will see DTS UHD and that's that, better than nothing. The suspense is killing me, I can't wait for CES or any other tech show next year for that matter.

Speaking of DTS UHD anyone care to guess as to what it could be/do?

My guess is that it won't be called DTS UHD and if it is called anything close to that it will be DTS UHD MA, as far as channels are concerned I think it will be analogous to Dolby ATMOS. Imagine if it requires a different layout
From what I understand online, DTS MDA/UHD is like a combination of Auro 3D and Dolby Atmos. It has three layers of surround (base, height and overhead) and it uses object mixing like Dolby Atmos.
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Wow, well that must have been stressful? All the best and let's look forward to the new year. Good health.
Give me a few weeks and I’ll be back in the dirt on two wheels. I mean if this now ~ 88 year old man can still do active work (chain sawing trees, digging ditches, etc.) around his farm.
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Old 12-28-2014, 07:11 PM   #4397
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Nobody knows.
In regards to non-animated titles, if the studios’ don’t want to give-up their *crown jewels* from the get-go at the 4K Blu-ray launch but, on the other hand, still seriously desire to make a meaningful impression with the launch of the 4K UHD physical media format…

a smart thing to do would be to choose at least mildly to moderately popular motion pictures characterized by an unfiltered look (i.e. no ‘aesthetic’ softening secondary to in camera or post production defocus) using sharp glass (i.e. good Master Primes, etc.) as well as content that leverages the perception of higher resolution - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...on#post9573269
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Old 12-28-2014, 07:13 PM   #4398
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Hoping for some more news at CES
The table has certainly been set by others in conference tracks…
http://www.cesweb.org/Conference/Con...g-Picture.aspx
http://www.cesweb.org/Conference/Con...-Forecast.aspx

to enable an opportunity to further promote the physical media delivery aspect of 4K UHD on a worldwide stage.
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You and me both want to know the launch titles.
Inside joke for Geoff and others who remember the launch of BD 50….

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But any how, I believe 4K3D TVs are available now. So including this at launch is not too far fetched.
They are 4K TVs that do 3D, not 4K 3D TVs, if you get my drift. There is no 4K 3D standard for cinema as you rightly said and there certainly isn't anything ratified for the home. If you're lucky you can get a 4K TV which will play back a 3840x2160 over/under image which is still just 1080 vertical res to each eye, but frame-packed 4K 3D input - which would be something like 3840x4365, inclusive of 45 blanking lines like BD 3D - is pie-in-the-sky territory at the moment.

Some 4K TVs, like the Sonys, don't even allow for over/under or simulated 3D processing of 4K signals, never mind anything else. Samsung's 4K sets are best poised in this regard, as they'll be able to have their one connect box upgraded when the time comes, but that won't come cheap.
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