Fright Night (1985) (30th Anniversary Edition) (Limited Edition) - SOLD OUT

[0ngakuhenjin]

I got my shipping notification! Nice surprise Birthday present from SA!!

[rdodolak]

For those receiving shipping notices when did you place your order and how many items did you order? If you're not sure, the date and time of the order can be found in order number.

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[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

For those receiving shipping notices when did you place your order and how many items did you order? If you're not sure, the date and time of the order can be found in order number.

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You would think it would be the people who ordered the soonest but I bet you are wrong. It seems to go in reverse actually.

[Dunemoon]

Originally Posted by 0ngakuhenjin

I got my shipping notification! Nice surprise Birthday present from SA!!

That you paid for

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by PuppetMasterBlu

You would think it would be the people who ordered the soonest but I bet you are wrong. It seems to go in reverse actually.

I don't think they ever shipped FIFO but I'm not sure there is even a pattern to SAE's shipping method.

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

I don't think they ever shipped FIFO but I'm not sure there is even a pattern to SAE's shipping method.

Well......there is ED's will.

[0ngakuhenjin]

Originally Posted by Dunemoon

That you paid for

Hah true, but I didn't know it was shipping so soon. so still a good surprise.

[Thomas Irwin]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

The discs were constructed using a very rare metal.

Originally Posted by Talyn

Vibranium! No shipping confirmation for me yet, but I don't mind....

Originally Posted by popeflick

More like Unobtainium...

Everyone knows they're using Einsteinium these days... At least those of us who figured out how to get a copy.

[Bruno X]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

For those receiving shipping notices when did you place your order and how many items did you order? If you're not sure, the date and time of the order can be found in order number.

123014-160000-1234

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I actually think that Screen Archives ships the preorders randomly. But for reference .. I got my shipment notification Saturday morning and I placed my order on 12/30 at 4:39pm EST. It would have been sooner, but we were all crashing the website when the preorder started.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by Thomas Irwin

Everyone knows they're using Einsteinium these days... At least those of us who figured out how to get a copy.

How did you do it? Do you have to have some kind of special powers?

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by cine74

How did you do it? Do you have to have some kind of special powers?

Turns out that at some point during the 2 days it was available he just....bought it.

[Ruined]

If you did not get in on this or the original release and wanted Fright Night in any form on Blu-ray, I would not worry about it for a few good reasons:

1. This release greatly benefitted you if you wanted this movie as previously only 3000 copies were made available that resulted in inflated prices on eBay. This adds another 5000 to the mix and after people get their X number of extra anniversary copies and start putting them on eBay alongside their used original edition copy, I forsee after a couple of weeks of failed auctions that the price of the original Fright Night Blu-ray will settle down to the range of 45-50.

2. Even though this is on a BD50, I do not think there will be any significant A/V upgrade from the original TT release based on evidence available; the Sony int'l release has a higher bitrate and there is no significant difference between that and the Twilight Time BD25 even when doing a/b screenshot comparisons. Clearly TT did a fine job on encoding for the original edition.

3. While the new release has a DD2.0 soundtrack in addition to the DD5.1, calling DD2.0 "original audio" for this title is misleading. Fright Night's original audio master was 4 channels, not 2. The 5.1 mix was created by restoring the original 4.0 master to a more modern 5.1 format, which is required for accuracy - as encoding as 4.0 means some processors might incorrectly put the dialogue in the mains instead of the center... It is evident from the presentation no "enhancements" or egregious remixing was done on the 5.1 release, just restoration. Therefore, all you will likely get with the DD2.0 mix is an unrestored mix that fails to present the discrete surround channels from the original 4-channel master. Is this nice to have the DD2.0? For this specific movie, I'd say it makes no difference at all and will most likely sound worse overall. Are we going to be next clamoring for unrestored, scratched up film with dust, hairs, and damage from a well worn theatrical master, because that is more close to the theatrical release than a restored 1080p master for Blu-ray? I can see the value in original audio for masters where effects were replaced (like Terminator or Smokey and the Bandit) or a mono master was remixed to 7.1 - but aside from novelty I fail to see the purpose of a track with less channels than the original master had such as the DD2.0 on the re-release.

4. Fright Night Anniversary has more extras than the original release, but it is hardly a comprehensive special edition. I would say it is better extras wise, but nothing to really go crazy over. The best extra is arguably the isolated score, and that is on the original release too.

Thus, end result a month from now:
1. Fright Night original release likely deemed no significantly different than Anniversary Edition in A/V quality, as evidenced by higher bitrate int'l release.
2. People end up dumping their original release fright night on eBay as well as their extra anniversary copies.
3. Price of original fright night drops from $100 to $45-$50 range because big influx of extra supply.
4. While you might have missed out on this release, the end result of this release is that you will save $50 for an a/v transfer that is virtually identical in the original release.

While it would be great if this were just released as a regular release, I'd rather have limited runs than no runs at all. So many movies not on Blu-ray!

I really would not be surprised at all if Fright Night is re-released for a triple dip when Blu-ray 4k is available. After all, the video was remastered in 4k, not 2k. In fact, I would not be surprised if TT/SAE becomes Sony's main BD4K distro as I doubt stores will stock much of what will be a niche, high-priced format.

[RickWJ324]

Mine shipped yesterday (Saturday the 17th). I'm in Virginia so I definitely would've received mine tomorrow, but being a holiday it should be here Tuesday for sure. For the record, I ordered 2 and paid via paypal.

For those complaining about missing out, you really should import one of the region-free discs. They are cheap in price and are fine discs for those wanting to watch the film...yes, they do NOT contain the extras, but is that such a deal breaker? If you love the film, import it! I imported the Australian release because I prefer to have the box art and/or menu text in English as much as possible. So there are options out there to see this film besides paying crazy aftermarket prices.

I love this film and bought the first release from TT and also the Australian release. I almost didn't buy this re-release, but figured what the heck. I picked up 2 copies knowing that it would sell out quickly and figured I may have a friend or relative that might like a copy that didn't know about this release.

I didn't buy the 2nd one for profit and actually thought about giving it away in a contest here on blu-ray.com (Crazy Dave inspired me!!). I recently gave away a German-only copy of The House On Haunted Hill on a thread here and thought about doing more soon. The only downside I see to that is I would want to put it in the hands of someone that actually wants/needs the film for themselves and not someone who is looking to get an extra copy to dump on ebay. I guess there would be no way I'd know if someone entering the contest was looking to do that. I'll just hang on to it for a bit and see....

Rick

[BRipMan13]

Ordered 2 about an hour after presales went live. Being delivered to Philly, my package of 2 were shipped out yesterday.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Ruined

3. While the new release has a DD2.0 soundtrack in addition to the DD5.1, calling DD2.0 "original audio" for this title is misleading. Fright Night's original audio master was 4 channels, not 2. The 5.1 mix was created by restoring the original 4.0 master to a more modern 5.1 format, which is required for accuracy

This is not how Dolby Stereo masters work. They often have discrete tracks but the final master is 2 channel with matrixed center and surround channels. When creating a 5.1 channel version they go back to the discrete tracks. A "more accurate" version would encode the magnetic Dolby Stereo encoded 2 channel masters as is.


Also the encoding on the Blu-ray is DTS-HD MA, not Dolby Digital (DD).

as encoding as 4.0 means some processors might incorrectly put the dialogue in the mains instead of the center

4.0 is L-C-R-S (left-center-right-surround), there is already a center channel and no "processing" to place the dialogue channel.

[jjdpw50]

Mine is still at Shipping label created part. Ordered about 75 mins after it went live.

[AKORIS]

I think I got mine ordered within 45 minutes on that crazy day!! No shipping e-mail yet....

[skyofcrack]

Originally Posted by RickWJ324

Mine shipped yesterday (Saturday the 17th). I'm in Virginia so I definitely would've received mine tomorrow, but being a holiday it should be here Tuesday for sure.

I wouldn't count on that. I also live in VA and have ordered items from Maryland and received them two weeks later while receiving items in 4 days from the UK.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by batman2000

so basically the remake didn't do well sales wise and now they won't give it a proper release that's a load of crap

This IS a proper release. In fact, it's been released twice.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

This is not how Dolby Stereo masters work. They often have discrete tracks but the final master is 2 channel with matrixed center and surround channels. When creating a 5.1 channel version they go back to the discrete tracks. A "more accurate" version would encode the magnetic Dolby Stereo encoded 2 channel masters as is.

Dolby Stereo Surround/matrixed surround was a technical limitation of theaters, not necessarily a choice the makers of the film deliberately made over discrete audio; in fact, we know for a fact that a 4 channel discrete audio master is available for this movie. If a discrete L/C/R/S mix exists from which a 5.1 mix can be created (again, this is best practice to avoid receiver/prepro channel processing errors/bugs regardless of channel config due to the scarcity of 4.0 material), how exactly is a matrixed 2.0 master going to be more accurate or the best preservation of film elements when the pre-downmix master is discrete L/C/R/S and that master is available? The matrixed 2.0 master will have channel bleed and limited surround channel frequencies, thus losing fidelity over the discrete L/C/R/S master.

The 2.0 mix might be what was ran in theaters due to technical limitations, but again do you want a mucked up theatrical print with dust, hair, and print damage just because that was more like what was shown in theaters in the 80s due to the limiations of analog film/projectors? My guess is no, so applying this same logic to audio is similar.

In summary, yes, 2.0 stereo is more accurate to what was shown in the theater. But the DD5.1 mix will be closer to the original master prior to being downmixed/degraded as a result of the theatrical technical limitations of the time. So the DD5.1 mix really is closer to the original master elements, assuming the mix is done properly as it was with Fright Night. Again, I would not want to see a print with hair, dust, damage and other analog film issues just because analog film was what was shown in the theater.

Thus, if we are looking to preserve the elements as best as possible and not just present the lowest common denominator of what a theater in the 80s was capable of, a proper discrete multichannel mix is superior to matrixed audio in my opinion when a discrete master is available. It is simply the best preservation of the film's original elements; if you really want stereo, you can easily set your processor to downmix the 5.1 to stereo.

Finally, apparently some restoration work was done on the audio for the 5.1 release based on its superiority to the DVD's audio. So in addition to losing the discrete audio from the original master, you are probably additionally losing that restoration work. If the 2.0 track uses the same master as the one from the DVD, the fidelity is significantly worse than the the 5.1 remix. I also find it unlikely that great lengths were gone through to restore the 2.0 mix when that was clearly not a priority in any of the initial TT or Sony/international Blu-ray releases; the Sony international release had 6 dolby digital soundtracks and they still chose to omit the english 2.0 track - most likely you will get a tacked-on DTS-MA 2.0 encoding of the 15+ year old stereo master used for the DVD's DD2.0 track or one of similar fidelity.