List of International BDs with Better PQ, AQ, and/or More Extras

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

But the Criterion release doesn't have the TC. Plus the DC on the Arrow release is technically better than the DC on the Criterion release.

It has been added.

[cyborgLIS]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

It does. I have the DE steelbook and it has the same lossless audio. It also has a better transfer than the U.S. disc.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Agreed on all counts, the audio on the Euro disc is stunning.

Just to be clear, you guys have heard the US release too, correct? I understand the Euro disc sounds great, but I suppose it's possible the US disc sounds just as good.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by cyborgLIS

Just to be clear, you guys have heard the US release too, correct? I understand the Euro disc sounds great, but I suppose it's possible the US disc sounds just as good.

Yeah, the U.S. disc sounds horrible in comparison.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by cyborgLIS

I've never seen anyone confirm that the UK version actually sounds better though. I've heard it sounds great, but I've also heard the US sounds great. Never seen someone with both make a comparison though. Only assumptions based on specs.

Night and day, great sounding disc

[Early Memphis]

Cross of Iron
US - No release
UK - AVC 31997 kbps, LPCM 2.0 2304 kbps 24-bit, extras, English subs (Region B locked)

Don’t know anything about this, but Amazon UK lists what it calls a “Dutch” (Netherlands?) release:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cross-Iron-1...ss+of+iron+blu

It’s a Studio Canal release which is listed as “uncensored” : 133 minutes vs. the 127 minute “Digitally Restored” UK Optimum Home release. Both, unfortunately, are listed as region B.

The site, however, lists 10 different versions (UK, Germany, France, Spain, Finland, Sweden & Japan - with the Japanese release being the only one listed as region A - 133 min.). Strangely, the site lists a 132 min. Studio Canal/ Optimum Classic release, presumably not the one listed on Amazon UK. The French Studio Canal release is also listed as 132 min., as is the SC Finnish release. Lastly, according to the site, the Swedish SC release is only 100 minutes.

Any info from European or any worldwide posters would be welcome.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Cross of Iron
US - No release
UK - AVC 31997 kbps, LPCM 2.0 2304 kbps 24-bit, extras, English subs (Region B locked)

Don’t know anything about this, but Amazon UK lists what it calls a “Dutch” (Netherlands?) release:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cross-Iron-1...ss+of+iron+blu

It’s a Studio Canal release which is listed as “uncensored” : 133 minutes vs. the 127 minute “Digitally Restored” UK Optimum Home release. Both, unfortunately, are listed as region B.

The site, however, lists 10 different versions (UK, Germany, France, Spain, Finland, Sweden & Japan - with the Japanese release being the only one listed as region A - 133 min.). Strangely, the site lists a 132 min. Studio Canal/ Optimum Classic release, presumably not the one listed on Amazon UK. The French Studio Canal release is also listed as 132 min., as is the SC Finnish release. Lastly, according to the site, the Swedish SC release is only 100 minutes.

Any info from European or any worldwide posters would be welcome.

Are you sure the 133 and 127 minute versions aren't the same? Because 127 minutes is roughly what a 133 minute film subjected to PAL speed up would come out as...

And it's not uncommon to see a PAL running time listed on a UK BD release, 20th Century Fox always do it.

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

Are you sure the 133 and 127 minute versions aren't the same? Because 127 minutes is roughly what a 133 minute film subjected to PAL speed up would come out as...

And it's not uncommon to see a PAL running time listed on a UK BD release, 20th Century Fox always do it.

Not sure of anything, pardner. HD mentioned maybe getting the UK version in another thread and, remembering the movie fondly but always being blacked out by it being region B, I started hunting again (currently, only 2 are on the list). I only posted those findings as a hopeful jumpstart to learning more from folks such as yerself - great point about the Pal speedup. Not sure why Amazon.uk lists one as "uncensored" (the longer one) and the other as only "digitally restored" - don't know if any of these are "censored". Interestingly, CDJapan lists theirs as the "Priced-down Reissue" (NTSC).

[jordanwalkert]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Yeah, the U.S. disc sounds horrible in comparison.

So I am to understand the European release of Thief is better both audibly and visually than the remastered CRITERION release in the US?? Wow, here I thought Criterion was supposed to be top notch in that department! I thought the Criterion disc looked and sounded phenomenal.

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by jordanwalkert

So I am to understand the European release of Thief is better both audibly and visually than the remastered CRITERION release in the US?? Wow, here I thought Criterion was supposed to be top notch in that department! I thought the Criterion disc looked and sounded phenomenal.

The post was about Terminator 3. There's more to life than the great Thief controversy.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=495

[JimDiGriz]

Originally Posted by jordanwalkert

So I am to understand the European release of Thief is better both audibly and visually than the remastered CRITERION release in the US?? Wow, here I thought Criterion was supposed to be top notch in that department! I thought the Criterion disc looked and sounded phenomenal.

It is quite funny when this happens though

[HD Goofnut]

Saw III updated.

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Saw III updated.

The original and best movies (1-3) get the worst treatment in US for the second time Lucky we don't need to buy the US discs

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by wesslan

The original and best movies (1-3) get the worst treatment in US for the second time Lucky we don't need to buy the US discs

Yep, the DE transfers look noticeably better and even have slightly better audio. You just lose out on the English subs.

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Yep, the DE transfers look noticeably better and even have slightly better audio. You just lose out on the English subs.

And FR and JP looks even better!

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by wesslan

And FR and JP looks even better!

That's good although I never liked these films personally. I found the first one tolerable, but they went downhill after that.

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

That's good although I never liked these films personally. I found the first one tolerable, but they went downhill after that.

I like the tone very much since it feels like they started it all but I haven't watched it a second time yet and for now I only own 1-4. Maybe when I forget them some more since the storyline is a big thing. But I'm a horror/gore buff

[Ben_R]

Is there much difference between the DTS-HD and TrueHD tracks.

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by Ben_R

Is there much difference between the DTS-HD and TrueHD tracks.

Since I haven't got both to compare I can only say 99% No Lossless is always lossless but DTS-HD HR is little trickier. I would say middleground depending on the source offcourse. Movies like Saw isn't effect based and most dialogue anyways.

So DTS/DD--->DTS-HD HR--->DTS-HD MA/Dolby TrueHD

Then it all depends on your equipment and such but like in the case of Saw 1-3 US vs rest of the world: YES!! it's a big diffrence to get better video codec AND lossless HD audio.

[HD Goofnut]

Added Deepstar Six.

[HD Goofnut]

Added Angel Heart.